|
|
Cruiser
Posts: 73
San Diego, Ca | Just received this from Victory.
(2016 models.jpg)
Attachments
----------------
 2016 models.jpg (108KB - 37 downloads)
|
|
| |
|
Tourer
Posts: 416
Prairie City, IA United States | After the last couple of years it is a BIG YAWN. They just keep modifying the CC and using old steel frames while slapping a new name on them.
How about some substance Victory? |
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA | i agree. and then you see a model that was around for about 2-3 years gone.. one thing that scares me is how they never really kept investing in the vision.. the REAL improvements i saw from my 08 to 11 vision , AL the Victorys got.. (transmission, ABS) yeah they have done little things.. but when you look at the CC. they came out with that factory LED light , etc etc. i know there is limits to the vision because of its body work.. its just seems, you hear them talk about how much the CC outsells the vision.. but at the same time you not doing anything to make the vision more attractive. to alot of people accessories / add-ons is something that important to them . hell now that i think about it.. they took a step backwards in from areas... removing things to reduce the price.. since i as talking about the head light.. that one area they cheapened them... they remove the HID light and put a 35 watt bulbs..? really? I love the hell out of my HID light ! |
|
| |
|
Iron Butt
Posts: 804
Perry Hall, MD | Got my hopes up for something more significant this time around including some actual redesign to the Vision body work. Do have to agree that the lack of a broad range of accessories for the Vision has been pretty disappointing. This was really driven home when a buddy showed up with his new Indian and I saw all of the customized/detailed pieces on it. Made me question how much value Polaris places on the Victory line.
|
|
| |
|
Cruiser
Posts: 105
| The dealer show in Vegas starts tonight at 8pm PST. The current rumors are a smaller cc bike like the scout and a liquid cooled vision. However the vision will essentially be cross country with a fixed fairing. Much like how the HD Road Glide is to the Street Glide. We'll see of course later tonight/tomorrow. This needs to be the year for some excitement! Some of those cool Indian electronics need to make it to the Vics. They didn't gut the line last year for nothing. Everything seems to point to 2016 being a big deal. Just please don't give us yet another year of the same old Vision from 2008! Eight model years is enough. |
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 4278
| wonder why Vic wouldn't let rumors out about what might be to build up the new bikes.
some are going to be excited and a lot will be disappointed. |
|
| |
|
Iron Butt
Posts: 623
| checkout the Victory Empulse hope they make a gas powered version like the look |
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA | well what about any of this info ? as far as clues or guesses for the engine http://magazine.cyclenews.com/i/540890-cycle-news-2015-issue-28-jul... |
|
| |
|
Puddle Jumper
Posts: 15
| Looks like no changes to the line up. They kept the vision exactly the same. I am just happy they kept it in the lineup. It does need some improvements I wish victory would listen to these forums and give us some of these updates. |
|
| |
|
Iron Butt
Posts: 691
Manchester, CT | I've loved my Vision especially with all the mods, perf and cosmetic. As far as I'm concerned. when and if I am ready for a new bike, it wont' be a Victory. They are quickly becoming antiquated when it comes to new innovation etc. Buying someone else's electric power plant is far from being a thought leader. They couldn't even improve the Vision's electronics or audio system. Check out the GPS offering..still the Garmin 660
|
|
| |
|
Cruiser
Posts: 92
Chandler, AZ | What happened to the "5 new models and think you will really like what's coming out". Really? OK, guess now I can go after the tricked-out '11 Vision 8-Ball I've been holding off on. |
|
| |
|
Iron Butt
Posts: 612
| My next bike would have been a fresh, updated Vision..... sadly, since that bike still doesn't exist, it will probably be an HD or BMW. |
|
| |
|
Cruiser
Posts: 105
| Massively massively disappointed. Not one upgrade that the Indians have?? It's been 2 damn years. I legitimately ask if Polaris gives a damn about Victory at all. |
|
| |
|
Tourer
Posts: 416
Prairie City, IA United States | I sure am glad I only have 82K miles on my Vision. At this rate I will have 200K on it before Polaris decides to make a few minor changes to the Vision. It is hard to increase sales when you screw the pooch in innovation. |
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 1308
Sand Rock, AL United States | I'm happy with my Vision (thankfully) but I think it's pretty pathetic that there hasn't been anything truly new in years. Nothing innovative. I don't care about an electric bike. Every year I am told "this is the year" and nothing, I mean nothing. Guess I can skip the demo area at Sturgis this year. I would just like to see Victory continue to move forward in design, been stagnate far too long. |
|
| |
|
Tourer
Posts: 400
| Lets look where we were in 2008-2010, Vegas, Kingpin, Hammer, and Jackpot with multiple paint options and some 8-ball models. The accessories book was getting bigger and bigger. Bikes were bright colors with chrome. Now, Kingpin gone with no true successor, Jackpot gone, Vegas and Hammer were reduced to 8-ball only for a few years. Most bikes are dark color with blacked out exhaust and handle bars. I've talked with a Dealer that used to be a big Harley dealership and worked closely with Harley racing, but is now a Victory / Indian dealer. The dealership has tried to tell Victory people like bright paint and shiny chrome. How can you increase market share when you reduce your bike selection, reduce paint options, and basically have all bikes with no chrome. |
|
| |
|
Cruiser
Posts: 91
| You could get the Ford model T in any colour you wanted as long as your choice was black!
Edited by boatsrfun 2015-07-29 5:53 PM
|
|
| |
|
Puddle Jumper
Posts: 49
Fort Defiance, VA United States | Totally agree with all. Victory was so innovative early on in the brand. It's sad and disappointing to see what is happening to it now. I'm now considering others including HD and Indian. jf |
|
| |
|
Cruiser
Posts: 105
| I posted this on the Victory facebook page this morning. I believe they removed it as I can't find it anymore:
If that's all you have for 2016, why even have a dealer meeting? Just send them last years catalog with a a few colors crossed out. Massively disappointed. We vic riders have been the red headed step child ever since polaris bought Indian. Two years and we still have the same clunky stuck on radio and cruise controls. Same outdated throttle cables, and ugly wiring outside the handlebars. Harley has had throttle by wire since 2008! Indian has had it since day 1. Victory riders? Nah don't need it. Victory is the performance brand? You might want to look that word up. The company that builds motorcycles with 1940's technology is kicking our rear ends. Not sure performance means what you think it means.
Edited by V-rodder 2015-07-29 6:53 PM
|
|
| |
|
Cruiser
Posts: 122
Westchester Co., NY | I agree with all. It is hard to justify a purchase of a new Victory at this point. I am very disappointed. |
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 1365
Central Maryland | jkfrazier - 2015-07-29 7:31 PM
Totally agree with all. Victory was so innovative early on in the brand. It's sad and disappointing to see what is happening to it now. I'm now considering others including HD and Indian. jf Careful about the HD's.. I have been checking out the Road and Street Glides; seems that they have many issues as well... http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/harley_davidson.html |
|
| |
|
Iron Butt
Posts: 623
| I am disappointed. But not to the point of leaving for HD or others. My 08 VV has 100k care free miles and I still love the bike. I've never had any other brand over 30k without getting bored with it or sick of the maintenance. I will keep my 08 forever, but I do hope Victory updates soon as I will prolly need to add a new full time bike to the garage in the next 4-6 years. |
|
| |
|
Cruiser
Posts: 80
| Don't give up on Victory. Ma Vic is not done yet. There will be new stuff coming out in the near future. Just not ready for release yet. |
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA | thats what we have bee hearing for YEARS NOW.. just wait.. its coming.. my fathers uncles former roommate is best friends with the owner.. blah blah blah.. and each year.. same ol crap.. some new paint. and handful of accessories and they think we should be doing back flips over it.. |
|
| |
|
Iron Butt
Posts: 612
| Yup, I remember when MB himself told me at a rally in 2011 that there were big changes in the nest 2-3 years for the Vision.... that deadline was 2014! I'm calling BS, they keep blowing smoke year after year (short for LYING). I think they are letting the Vision line die out, and just using what parts are left in inventory to put together bikes until they run out. And that's fine, but don't lie to us and tell us big changes coming next year! Year after year, it's simply BS. No one likes to be lied to.
Edited by Turk 2015-07-30 2:23 PM
|
|
| |
|
Tourer
Posts: 319
| I cant believe that the once flagship of the lineup is now pass?. Victory is not interested in the Vision and it shows. |
|
| |
|
Puddle Jumper
Posts: 12
| You can tell what rides vision a bunch of whiny old guys |
|
| |
|
Puddle Jumper
Posts: 33
Pillager, MN | Winning - 2015-07-31 8:48 PM You can tell what rides vision a bunch of whiny old guys Great first post...  . I think if you do some reading, you will find that Vision riders are some of the most loyal riders around. It is disappointing because we have told for a few years now that there was an update coming and it never ends up happening. Heck, I was told by a factory guy at the Twin Cities Motorcycle Show that there was a new Vision coming this fall. It is a great bike (I love mine), but it needs a few updates. From a factory perspective, it is crazy of them to not offer something to tempt guys like to me to update. Even if I don't buy something else, I'm certainly not buying a new Vision...hence no $$$ in Victory's pocket. I am typing this from Rapid City and I visited with a rep at the Victory booth at Sturgis today. He said he knows that the Vision needs updating and so does the factory, but it is a complex bike and very labor-intensive to assemble because of all the parts. He also said that he gets the same complaints at every show. I told him that they better get some "real" changes to the bike soon or they would be loosing their loyal customer base to other bikes. He basically gave me the same line...they are working on it and I will love the new bike when it comes out, but no indication of when that will be... |
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA | They'll lose me if they change anything. |
|
| |
|
Cruiser
Posts: 103
Davenport, IA | I've got to be honest here. I too was among many hoping for a new improved Vision this year, and somewhat disappointed when I learned of no changes. I've had my 09 since it was new and still enjoying every minute on it. I've taken several long trips and it's never failed me. I just returned from a trip to Wyoming & Montana riding the Beartooth Pass and to Yellowstone. I rode there with two other Goldwing riders. We rode aggressive many times through the mountain curves and hills. Those Goldwings tried to outperform me but the Vision was an equal match performance wise, and I could out perform them in the curves. When I returned home from that trip, I was grinning just as big as the first day I got the bike. For now, I know I still have a great bike that I thoroughly still enjoy riding, and will keep it until Victory finally decides to update the model. Even though the Indian is getting all the attention, the Vision is a sweeter ride. I've test rode all the Indian models, and like them very much, but when I saddled up on my Vision after riding those Indians, I knew I already had the better ride. |
|
| |
|
Central Wisconsin | Thank you Polaris, you saved me $thousands$ for not updating the Vision ;-)
|
|
| |
|
Puddle Jumper
Posts: 12
| Victory vision is fine they just need more custom parts |
|
| |
|
Tourer
Posts: 324
New Orleans, La, | As eluded to by 39 chevy, evolutionary and not revolutionary changes, imporvments, and upgrades. That's what Honda does with the GW and BMW does with their tourer. Polaris needs to look at what the other manufacturers have done and ditto what has worked for them and their customer bases. I realize the Vision is a complicated machine with many parts so why not improve it by designing some of the body panels to be fewer in number with more durable attachment points/hardware. Any Vision owne that has had to remove and replace body panels over the years of ownership has encountered the attachment points plastic failure. Maybe change, redesign some every year just to let customers know that they value the customers concerns on things their initial R&D could not have uncovered way back when. Don't radically change the look but perfect what is already a good basic design. |
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 1632
Jasper, MO | kmt27 - 2015-07-31 10:39 PM
I've had my 09 since it was new and still enjoying every minute on it. I've taken several long trips and it's never failed me. I just returned from a trip to Wyoming & Montana riding the Beartooth Pass and to Yellowstone. I rode there with two other Goldwing riders. We rode aggressive many times through the mountain curves and hills. Those Goldwings tried to outperform me but the Vision was an equal match performance wise, and I could out perform them in the curves. When I returned home from that trip, I was grinning just as big as the first day I got the bike. For now, I know I still have a great bike that I thoroughly still enjoy riding, and will keep it until Victory finally decides to update the model. Even though the Indian is getting all the attention, the Vision is a sweeter ride. I've test rode all the Indian models, and like them very much, but when I saddled up on my Vision after riding those Indians, I knew I already had the better ride.
The wife and I recently got back from a similar trip to that area, plus Glacier and Waterton Lakes Canada. 4000 miles in 11 days. Like you, we had a couple of Goldwings in the group, along with three new Harley Rushmore Limiteds. One of them broke. The Goldwing riders were sure that they could outperform our Vision, but they couldn't. (I have some Lloydz goodies quietly doing their thing). The Goldwings touch down in corners before the Vision, and they don't have quite as much power as my Vision. They always want to stop for a stretch before we do.
I love my Vision. Even if they never update the model, I won't really be too disappointed. It is still currently the best touring platform out there.
Ronnie |
|
| |
|
Tourer
Posts: 573
Central Illinois | I saved tons of money this year because Victory had nothing to reach out and grab me. Instead I expect to pay Rylan Voss a visit and get a bit of improvement on my '13 Vision without Victory being involved. He has a nice after market intake that I think would suit me. |
|
| |