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Puddle Jumper
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Tracy, CA | I know this subject has been beat to death but I gotta ask any way. Are the new Dunlop e3's any better than 2012. I'm at 5,500 miles on my 12 vision and I'm at the wear bars on the outer edge of my tire and the middle isn't far behind. I've had better mileage out of sport rubber than this. I've thought long and hard about the dark side where I've read claims of 10k miles with these tires. Not impressed, I've read people claiming 12k on E 3's but I don't see how this is possible being I've worn mine out in half that. I need a 10k tire especially at 350 or more a set. HELP! |
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Visionary
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Central Maryland | I'm amazed that you've attained so little mileage on the E3's... I got almost 17K out of my rear E3.
What pressure are you running? You should be running 42psi rear and 40psi front.
Edited by willtill 2015-03-14 7:21 AM
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Puddle Jumper
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| Not sure whats going on with your E3 but I go 18000 on mine and I could have gotton more. I have a 13 Vision. |
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Visionary
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| Raymoto
you have to check the air in the tires the first of every month
when the temp gets over 90 degrees check every two weeks.
Use a good gauge not the cheap thing that comes with the bike.
Heck I was getting 15 thousand out of mine |
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Cruiser
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| I've got a $100 barometric adjusting guaranteed accurate guage and I only got 8300 out of my last E3 rear. I don't even ride that hard, but I guess the roads here are like sand paper. I don't know how people are getting the mileage they are. I'm not even running a trunk, and don't ride 2 up. Might have to try the Michelins next. |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | There is a lot of factors that determine the longevity of your tires. I've always got the max out of my Dunlop E3s and in reading all of the post concerning tire performance and wear I'm convinced I could do no better. Take in consideration that you may have gotten a fluke. I admire the fact you are wearing the sides out more than the middle, it means you have a lot of twisties where you ride. Do a lot of reading and talking with folks about their road surfaces, style of riding, and air pressure. Always measure your air pressure cold, and set to 41 front and rear, that's what I do. You'll have pressure upwards to 55psi when riding, that's okay. I always hear that car tires will get 20,000 to 30,000 out them, so it may be a better fit for you, beware, I hear that they ride "different, but you'll get used to it." I hope you the best in finding the right tire.
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Tourer
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Central Illinois | I have to agree with varyder. I got over 15K out of my first rear and over 17k out of my first front tire. I do not have a lot of twisties around here so mine wore out in the middle first but I replaced both tires before I got to the wear bars. I am close to 21000 now and both tires still look like new. |
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Puddle Jumper
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Tracy, CA | Tire pressure is not the issue here. I commute every day on my Honda, my vision is my recreational bike, don't get to ride it as much as I'd like. Being that it sits idle, I always check my tire pressure before its ridden. I've never seen 20k out of any cycle tire on any bike I've ever owned but I don't run my tires to the last drop either. I will add that the front tire on my vision is equally worn at 5500 it might have another 1k in it. So high mileage claims aside, let me ask this. Out of the tires available for the vision, is the E 3 going to give me the highest mileage? |
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Visionary
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Rancho Cucamonga, CA | Did you get a set of bias E3s? They won't last as long as radial E3s.
Also remember, rubber doesn't last as long running in 100 degree weather. I live in SoCal, but I know it gets hot up there too. I got 10k from my first E3, 18k out of the wintersport CT, and 14k from the new E3MT tire.
Trying the Michelin Commander IIs now. They say that being a bias ply tire instead of a straight bias tire, it should last twice as long. 2k so far, so I don't know yet, but it feels good. |
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Cruiser
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Iowa | Got 16k out of my E3s. |
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Puddle Jumper
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Dallas, NC United States | I have a 2013 Vision, bought new, changed both front and rear at 17,000 miles. Wear strips were just begining to show. Can't believe only 8300 miles, something is not lined up right for that mileage or you are a very aggressive rider. |
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Cruiser
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| Moderately aggressive. Thinking about looking into some kind of laser system for alignment, but I'm not that far off. Belt is reasonably centered. Something sure seems wrong, I'm barely doing better than I do on my sport bikes. That is one thing I really like about shaft drive.... no friggin alignment.
Guess I need to contact the one other vic rider down here and see what he's getting on his CC. |
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Cruiser
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| Back for more.... Just spent about an hour doing an extensive alignment check. It's better than I could have expected. What I did find was something I had seen on a one of the vic forums within the last 2 weeks. The front wheel has about 1/4" of offset from the rear wheel to the right side. I did make sure the rear spacers were correct ( you really can't put them in wrong ) and having just changed the tire ( myself ) I know there is nothing wrong with the bearings or brakes.
I originally tried the centering the belt thing, but that shifted the wear line on my front tire off-center. So, I slowly cranked it back until the wear line was centered on the front tire.
As per my check, the alignment is dead on straight, other than the offset. I've never had any belt noise, but I am on my fifth rear tire at just shy of 40K miles.
If anyone has any ideas... I'm listening. Other than that, guess I'll have to blame the chip seal roads I ride.
Must be the roads..... |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | Raymoto - 2015-03-18 12:22 AM Tire pressure is not the issue here. I commute every day on my Honda, my vision is my recreational bike, don't get to ride it as much as I'd like. Being that it sits idle, I always check my tire pressure before its ridden. I've never seen 20k out of any cycle tire on any bike I've ever owned but I don't run my tires to the last drop either. I will add that the front tire on my vision is equally worn at 5500 it might have another 1k in it. So high mileage claims aside, let me ask this. Out of the tires available for the vision, is the E 3 going to give me the highest mileage? I've read a lot of discussions on tires and my foregone conclusion is that e3s will give me the best mileage. I run 41/41psi and the front I get at least 22,000 miles. The rear, with the new compound I get around 16,000 miles. The old compound gave me around 13,000. I've never read another motorcycle giving that type of service.
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Iron Butt
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| BumbleDB - 2015-03-14 7:24 PM
I've got a $100 barometric adjusting guaranteed accurate guage and I only got 8300 out of my last E3 rear. I don't even ride that hard, but I guess the roads here are like sand paper. I don't know how people are getting the mileage they are. I'm not even running a trunk, and don't ride 2 up. Might have to try the Michelins next.
What pressures do you set your tires to with that fancy gauge? If you aren't setting them before you leave the garage, then it's not to spec. Tire pressures are are meant to be adjusted before they roll and have a chance to heat up and expand. With my TPMS, I have seen tire pressures rise by as much as 5psi by the time I get to the nearest gas station (which is why I use my air tank at home), and 10psi after 15 minutes on the highway. For those waiting until you get to a gas station to set your tire pressures, or worse, after riding for 15 minutes or longer, your tires will be set as much as 10psi too low! Yes, they will increase that much over their cold setting. And low tire pressure is the number one cause of low tire longevity. I'm guessing this is the reason you are getting such poor wear out of them.
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | Turk you're cold, well when checking your air pressure. That cannot be stressed enough, always check before you ride. If you check while you are riding, do not deflate just because it seems to be high. The only other way it can cause additional wear as has been described, your roads are horrible. |
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Cruiser
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| I only check cold, unless the my tire goes flat on the road. |
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Worn out E 3 's