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Iron Butt
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Rockford, IL | Was talking to a friend a little bit ago. He is currently looking at a Jackpot. He stated that he read somewhere in a magazine that Victory has more American made parts than Harley's do. He wasn't sure if this was all of the Victory line or not.
So I guess my questions are........
Has anyone seen this information anywhere?
Anyone know the details on Visions in particular?
Would be nice to have this type of reply in the arsenal when a Harley person spouts some wisdom.
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Cruiser
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Rapid City, SD | I have heard it before in the forums but I don't have hard facts. I believe there are web sites that state the ratio of US content but I wouldn't know where to look. |
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Visionary
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LaPorte,Tx. | When on the factory tour this year at the AVR rally, that exact question was asked of our tour guide. He did not have an answer, but that the motorcycle is American made. |
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Northeast Pennsylvania | the top of the front cyclinder was marked Made in USA on the 99 Cruisers..don't know why they stopped doing that. |
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Sparta, WI | My memory bank tells me the front end of the Vision is made in Italy. The rest of the bike is made in the U.S. This is a tidbit of information I picked up somewhere from someone, maybe on this site but I would not bet my life on it.
Edited by Minnow 2008-09-23 4:40 PM
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rhode island | My 02 tc delux stage 2 cylinders were german made possibly porche the forks were made in Italy by marachie also
the brakes were brembo full floaters. |
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rhode island | My 02 tc delux stage 2 cylinders were german made possibly porche the forks were made in Italy by marachie also
the brakes were brembo full floaters. |
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Fountain Inn, SC United States | In talking with VP Mark Blackwell during the AVR, he was quite candid about where different parts came from. He stressed that they chose manufacturers based on Quality and Reliability (reliability in use as well as the company being able to supply Victory). Some of the bikes parts come from different countries (Italy, Germany, etc.) but it's because they are the best in the world at making that part. The majority of the parts come from the US and, of course, the bikes are assembled in Iowa, the engines are built in Wisconsin. Everything was designed here in the US. |
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Cruiser
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Houston, Texas | What I have found interesting is all of the METRIC hardware on this AMERICAN product...... |
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New Bohemia, VA | STARSHIP 1 - 2008-09-24 11:34 AM What I have found interesting is all of the METRIC hardware on this AMERICAN product...... Yes indeed, I scratch me head over that one as well SS. I'm not sure if they are forward thinking or what. I find I have metric on my Jeep too, so should we resolve ourselves that is the way it is or fight to be unique and stay with the American standard. I just make sure I have all the right tools, though the first time I went to work on the Vision I had my American standards out only to go get my metrics??? What does HD do? The rest is obvious. I wonder which way Indian has gone? As far as all the parts it is hard to get around the quality issue and so on. This is something that seems to be self-inflicted, because if you can get something cheaper and better elsewhere you are going to go there. I know a few folks that work as suppliers for stuff and they say they just cannot compete with the foriegn makers because their quality is better and the product is cheaper. So what do you do when the only redeeming quality is that it is American made? I think I read somewhere else here on the forum that someone did the same as I and bought a "Rice Burner" because we could not afford an American motorcycle. I found my Honda to be very dependable and was able to run the miles on the highwway and around town. And it was very cheap too! But I felt less than adequate because as a patriotic American I thought that I was betraying my country, especially as a soldier. The same went with my cars, either it was used or foriegn made. The Jeep Liberty is the only second American made auto I have bought new. The first was a Ford pickup in 1978. For the most part I buy and use American made products but I'm sure they are only assemblied in the USA or sold by the USA vendors but are truly foriegn products. And the beat goes on, and on... All I know is that many people would like to go Victory, and Victory has a hard line to tow now, but they don't want to either change or are uncertain of a motorcycle manufacturer that their dealerships are rarer than a fine diamond. This makes folks concerned in that if they have a problem what will they do if their dealer is miles away, or if they are on a long trip and have a breakdown. HD and Ricer shops are a dime a dozen almost anywhere, but Victory dealers and mechs are few and far between. I'm glad they are dependable. One more note. We have the Victory Trailer at the Dealer today and it was there yesterday. I stopped by and took a ride on the Vegas Low and Kingpin Low, nice rides and fun to ride. I also got to go in the trailer to sit on the one that is red and black with gold pin stripe. I won't mentioned exactly what it was but it had a 10 on it and a serial number of 080. When I pulled up and talked with the hauler guy Danny and in a moment he said you're the one we heard about. I said "Probably, what?" "You have over 20K on your bike?" "Yes" Then they begin to ask a few question and found it good that this bike has gone 20K at least (23,170 but who's counting?) with no major problems. Victory, you have a winner! |
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Iron Butt
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Linwood, MI | STARSHIP 1 - 2008-09-24 11:34 AM
What I have found interesting is all of the METRIC hardware on this AMERICAN product......
I imagine that is mostly in order to compete in a world market. Like it or not, pretty much the entire rest of the planet uses metric fasteners. |
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Iron Butt
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Rockford, IL | Rebel - 2008-09-24 11:50 AM
STARSHIP 1 - 2008-09-24 11:34 AM
What I have found interesting is all of the METRIC hardware on this AMERICAN product......
I imagine that is mostly in order to compete in a world market. Like it or not, pretty much the entire rest of the planet uses metric fasteners.
Are Victorys sold worldwide? |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Lotzafun - you DO know Canada is another country? A METRIC country? <grin>
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South of Houston Tx | Metric fasteners don't bother me much, American automobiles have been using metric fasteners for the better part of the last 25 years, I've bought a $hit load of tools in that time and between five tool boxes I bet I don't have a complete drawer full of standard sockets. I don't need them, if it's old enough to have standard fasteners I don't want to fool with it anyway!
But I did get a kick out of the tool kit, I have this "NEW AMERICAN MOTORCYCLE" and when I check the tool kit I find the cheapest Taiwanese peace of junk 10 mm wrench I ever saw!!! |
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Houston, Texas | Having come off of the 'other' American bike I was hoping to be able to use the really nice tool kit I have........dumped the tools and restocked it in Metric.....
But you did get a really nice air gauge.....
Edited by STARSHIP 1 2008-09-24 5:22 PM
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Iron Butt
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| A German company supposedly help design the Vision as well ...
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Tourer
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Dale, Indiana | STARSHIP 1 - 2008-09-24 4:21 PM
But you did get a really nice air gauge.....
I am sure Oboma was proud!
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O'Neill, Nebraska | STARSHIP 1 - 2008-09-24 10:34 AM
What I have found interesting is all of the METRIC hardware on this AMERICAN product......
Guys who cares about metric vs. SAE? This gave me an excuse to buy more tools!
As some other fine gentlemen pointed out....we're the only damn country that isn't on the metric system. When I was in Scotland for 3 weeks a few years ago, I did just fine on kilometers and liter of petrol.
I like the idea of having a bike that's got some Italian and other foreign design in it because it looks better than the rest.
Cheers. |
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So Cal | New cars have to post this info on the window stickers. Gives percentages of content and from which countries. Not sure if it applies to motorcycles. The government has been trying to push rediculous motorcycle legislation lately and keep gettin shot down. Thanks to rider that keep fighting. Not being bound to provide that info on motorcycles is a small price to pay for holding on to a little more freedom. |
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Iron Butt
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Linwood, MI | donetracey - 2008-09-24 4:09 PM
Lotzafun - you DO know Canada is another country? A METRIC country?
Sorry, but this really made me chuckle out loud. 
@Lotzafun -- yes, they are sold more or less worldwide. There are the obvious Canucks running around here, there's the two from New Zealand (but they bought them in the U.S., so not sure if that counts), there's a couple of them in England, and there's also someone here that's from an Eastern European country, like Poland.
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Victory bikes have more American made parts than Harley?