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Puddle Jumper
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Chicago | I have an appointment to go to The Vic Shop in a few weeks for a cam upgrade. After reading some post on other sites I have come across a few people saying that if you install the newest cams from LLoyds in a Vision you need to change the clutch. Has anyone had a problem with the clutch slipping from the cam up grade? |
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Visionary
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Jasper, MO | I have never had any clutch slippage, even on the dragstrip. I even use a full synthetic oil and still have no problems. I'm at around the 110/110 level (based on real timeslips).
Talk to Rylan about it. I think you will find that the stock clutch can hold up to about 120 FT/LBS of torque. If you go over that, you may need to beef up the clutch.
Ronnie |
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Visionary
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| Rylan would know way more then us ask him when you see him |
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Cruiser
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Bainville, & Mesa, AZ, MT | I have just about everything Lloydz has to offer for the 106 on my 13 Vision, it still has the factory clutch and hooks up just fine. Now my 08 with a Barnett clutch is a different story.
I would be curious to know what Ryan has to say about it.... |
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Visionary
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | Factory clutch is pretty much good to 125/125. Above thart you need to consider going to a Variable clutch from lloydz |
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Visionary
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Kevinx did my cams 5 years ago. My clutch is fine going into it's 7th year - almost all ridden 2-up - and while I'm mentioning this: HI KEVIN !!!
Thanks for changing my 'excitement' into 'just plain damn FUN !!!"
Don
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Cruiser
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The Vic Shop - Central Iowa | My experience has been that the Visions are most prone to clutch slippage being the biggest bike in the Victory lineup. A Vision with Lloydz VM1 cams will do (with the right pipes) about 118/118 on my dyno, which is not in the clutch slippage danger area yet.
BUT, if we install the VM1-Tour cams the numbers will be in the low 120's and well into the danger zone of maxing out the clutch. Therefore I make the bigger clutch upgrade an option at the time of any build (especially Visions) where the power will be over 120/120ish. |
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Visionary
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Central Maryland | Shoot... I occasionally get clutch slippage through 5th and 6th gears; when accelerating hard while merging onto an interstate. Will surprise the heck out of you when it happens.... |
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Cruiser
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| I would suspect its because the Hydraulic clutch isn't releasing all the pressure on it. I base this on what I experienced when I made my assist bracket to get a lighter pull on the clutch. Everything was fine till I slamed it in to 3rd on full throttle & high rpm's. ( yes it scared me). When I was making it I did notice that the clutch never did have all the pressure off the clutch like they show to adjust a cable clutch. Since there is no adjustment on the hydraulic clutch I think that manufacturing tolerances made some hydraulic clutches slip under presure where other don't.
P.S. my bracket let me adjust this out of it so I have no slippage under heavy stress. |
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Puddle Jumper
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Chicago | Well Rylan you got me right to that point 120 RWHP and we did see a pull do 122 must have been real good air. It was a pleasure you are top notch, the trip was worth it. Thank you for the smiles! |
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