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Iron Butt
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Tri Cities, WA | So here is a question I was wondering about with you Vision owners.. How fast have you had your vision up to? Just waiting on my own to find out myself but thought I would ask you all.  |
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Puddle Jumper
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| I only have 300 miles on my 10th anniversary Vision, so I have not puched it yet. I was cruising at 90mph Friday on the way home from the dealer in 6th gear with no effort at all. I will take it out and run it a little harder this afternoon and let you know.
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Visionary
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| 123 and she had much more to go but I normally do the speed limit.
In my opinion the Visions strength is NOT how fast she'll go, but how quickly she gets there. |
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Cruiser
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Alberta, Canada | My speedometer goes up to 180 K which is approx. 110 mph and I had lots of throttle left. That was around 4000 rpm. It drives wonderful at that speed too!!! |
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Tourer
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Centennial, CO | VisionNWRider - 2008-09-21 10:20 AM
So here is a question I was wondering about with you Vision owners.. How fast have you had your vision up to? Just waiting on my own to find out myself but thought I would ask you all.
Well, since the Vision is rev limited in 6th gear to 4500 RPM, you will see that you will only be able to do 120mph. I did it on my last long distance trip. I was riding along and had to pass someone (well, I guess I didn't have too...LOL) and rolled on the throttle. For some reason, I just forgot to roll back off. I had my GPS on and watching the top speed (which is only about 2mph off from GPS speed which I believe to be very accurate) hit 120...it stayed there for a few seconds and then started sputtering like I hit the rev limiter. I got to my destination and immediately looked it up. YUP! I wasn't happy!
SO, now I want to know if anyone knows how to remove the govern?
OH...BTW - this bike rides well at ANY speed! |
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Visionary
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San Antonio, TX | The tires are only rated for 120 MPH. If you figure out how to bypass the limiter you better put on faster rated tires.
I wonder what face the guy behind the counter will make when the question is asked, "What 160 MPH rated tires do you have for my 890 pound Victory Vision Tour? Do they come in white walls?"
I think someone did the math and the red line in sixth gear is about 144 MPH.
You guys have fun at that speed and I will have mine much closer to the posted limits.
Ride Safe? |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | I refuse to answer that on the grounds I may incriminate myself. I'll say this though, I've had it up to enough and even had a State Police on my tail. I never knew and still today don't know why he didn't pull, but I was moving fast enough. It was night and I didn't know it was a SP. But I have to say it was still in the double digit range. For the most, I don't find myself faster than I need too and that is the speed limit. Well... |
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Visionary
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So Cal | I was at 110 once when someone decided they wanted to share my lane. After I changed my shorts, I decided LA is not the place for that kind of speed. |
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Cruiser
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Columbia,MO | Had it up to 115mph with the trunk on and more speed left. |
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Cruiser
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Corpus Christi Tx. | VisionNWRider - 2008-09-21 12:20 PM
So here is a question I was wondering about with you Vision owners.. How fast have you had your vision up to? Just waiting on my own to find out myself but thought I would ask you all.
Just last week a friend of mine on his Road Star passed me with good intentions to outrun me and before I knew it I was at 115 and the Roadie nowhere in sight. He said that I passed him like he was standing still and he decided to back off at 100. I still had throttle left at that speed but decided that enough was enough. This big bike will get up and go. I normally do not ride at high speeds like this but this thing took off and even at 115 it was smooth as ice. Gotta love it!!
Ride safe.
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Iron Butt
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Linwood, MI | I think y'all will find it a tad easier to hit a top speed in 5th gear. Not only is 5th a 1:1 ratio, it also has a higher rev limit than 6th.
However, as radioteach mentioned, the reason for the limit is the speed rating on the tires. You generate a lot of heat on the rubber at high speeds and travelling faster than what your tires are rated for is a good way to shred them. Needless to say, on a motorcycle this would be disasterous. |
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Iron Butt
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Reno County, KS | Over 80 in 3rd gear but the math doesn't make sense. When I get back I'll look through the service manual for rev limiter specs. There's obviously different set points for each of the gears. Will a Loyd's/Power Commander remove the shut down? |
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Cruiser
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| 120 mph on gps, a touch over 120 on speedo, but the increments are so small after 120 there is no way to tell. The bike is definately limited to 120 on gps, even downhill you cannot exceed 120...I tried... |
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Tourer
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Carrollton, TX | golfer - 2008-09-22 8:02 AM 120 mph on gps, a touch over 120 on speedo, but the increments are so small after 120 there is no way to tell. The bike is definately limited to 120 on gps, even downhill you cannot exceed 120...I tried... I second this. I have not been able to get the Vision over 120 mph on my GPS. The rev limiter on the Vision is set for 5,400 rpm in 1st through 5th gears and 4,450 rpm in neutral and 6th gear. I have talked with Lloyd on this and I believe he is working on a way to overide the Vision computer on the rev limiter. |
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Cruiser
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Sparta, WI | 108 riding two up with a full load, trunk and neither one of us are light weights. We backed off cuz cars were up in front of us and we were running out of space. My buddy was on a 1600 Valkrie and wanted to see what the Vision would do. We started pulling away from the Valkrie just before we had to back off and he was one up. She was just starting to roll. |
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Visionary
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So Cal | 1st & 2nd gear are right on the money with the rev limiter. 3&4 seem to allow some over. 5&6 110 is as far as I got till conditions said stop. 80 is my normal limit, so I'm happy, 45 mpg at that speed helps. |
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Cruiser
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Austin, Texas | Mine goes a lot faster than I am brave. Typically my highway cruise is at 80. Went forever at 80 over the weekend two-up and my wife didn't even slap the back of my helmet. She didn't realize how fast we were going. On my Kingpin, she'd be diggin' in at 75, holding on for dear life mainly because of the wind buffeting. I'm convinced she has been taking naps on the back of the Vision. |
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Visionary
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | My Mrs. weighs in at 92lb - I have to check back with my hand every hour or so (feel for a leg) to see if she is still aboard. First two-wheel ride I have ever been on that is rock steady at 160kmh and not breathing hard. My Chrysler 300 is scarrier at that speed (but maybe just in my head). |
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Cruiser
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rhode island | Warp 5 but i think i could have coaxed a wee bit more from her spock! |
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Cruiser
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| i'll go check the dilithium crystals captain. i think the have a loose negative cable. at least that's what the recall said. |
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Cruiser
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rhode island | Scotty;
more power.....more power damn you. |
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Tourer
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Woodland Hills, CA | My only problem with checking the speed is that my SO, while much more comfortable at speed than she was on the Harley, can read the speedo much easier. And while that tap on my shoulder now comes at 75 instead of 70, I have only managed about 95 without a complete meltdown from the back seat. I guess I need to ride solo more often (Right!). |
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Visionary
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Jasper, MO | Speed is limited to 120. I've had mine there. It will do it in 5th gear (redline) or 6th gear (speed limiter). Now, if someone could just fool the ECM into thinking we were still in 5th gear while in 6th gear, we could probably see 130 with a good stiff tailwind and a long downhill run.  BTW, the GL1800 uses the same tires, and they will hit 130 with a good stiff tailwind and a downhill run. Not that I would know personally, or anything.
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Cruiser
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Leander,Texas | 120 for me and i had enough ! It runs great but after spending the kinda money i did for a bike why ruin it if i screw up so i dont do that anymore  |
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Visionary
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LaPorte,Tx. | rdbudd - 2008-09-27 4:56 PM
Speed is limited to 120. I've had mine there. It will do it in 5th gear (redline) or 6th gear (speed limiter). Now, if someone could just fool the ECM into thinking we were still in 5th gear while in 6th gear, we could probably see 130 with a good stiff tailwind and a long downhill run. BTW, the GL1800 uses the same tires, and they will hit 130 with a good stiff tailwind and a downhill run. Not that I would know personally, or anything.
Ronnie
This past weekend I had an opportunity to do a roll on in 5th gear with a GL1800. Starting at 70mph and running up to 115 mph. Both bikes were even all the way up to 105 mph, that's when the Vision started to pull away from the GL1800. |
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Visionary
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Jasper, MO | VisionTex - 2008-10-08 1:25 PM
rdbudd - 2008-09-27 4:56 PM
Speed is limited to 120. I've had mine there. It will do it in 5th gear (redline) or 6th gear (speed limiter). Now, if someone could just fool the ECM into thinking we were still in 5th gear while in 6th gear, we could probably see 130 with a good stiff tailwind and a long downhill run. BTW, the GL1800 uses the same tires, and they will hit 130 with a good stiff tailwind and a downhill run. Not that I would know personally, or anything.
Ronnie
This past weekend I had an opportunity to do a roll on in 5th gear with a GL1800. Starting at 70mph and running up to 115 mph. Both bikes were even all the way up to 105 mph, that's when the Vision started to pull away from the GL1800.
Are you sure your buddy didn't back off at 105? You should have been even all the way to 120. I'm sure that total weight of the bikes and riders makes some difference. The GW and Vision are pretty evenly matched in 4th gear and 5th gear roll on tests. In contests with my buddy's GW, from about 35 mph up, in 5th gear, I can pull away from him up to about 115. He then catches up to me, but can't pass through my slipsteam unless he gets over in the other lane and far away from my bike. The GW has a higher top speed. The rear wheel torque and horsepower of the two bikes are nearly identical up to 5000 rpm, but the GW has another 1500 rpm to play with. That extra 1500 rpm translates to an extra 10 horsepwer at the wheel. The GW is about 3/10's of a second quicker through the quarter mile, according to all that I have read. I've witnessed my buddy turn 12.78 on his GW. In fact, he won second place in an all-bike night last year with his GW. He and I used to do a lot of bike drag racing. The old instincts are still there. I've not yet had my Vision on the dragstrip, but we've tangled a few times on the street. He pulls about a 50 foot lead on me in first gear, which gap I can then maintain the rest of the way. That gives him the bragging rights for the quicker quarter mile, but in everyday riding/passing traffic situations he has no advantage over my Vision. In fact, when we make a concerted passing manuever, I have to back off to keep from running up on him. The Vision is geared about 5% lower than the GW in 5th gear, which translates into a couple more horsepower at the wheel. His bike and rider combo outweights mine by about 30 to 40 pounds, depending on how much junk we each have in the trunk, and how much gas in the tank. For all practical purposes, the bikes are evenly matched performance wise, but the Vision is much cooler.
Ronnie
Edited by rdbudd 2008-10-12 1:42 PM
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Tourer
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Tacoma, WA | 120. All I have had it up to, and evidently it is speed-limited there...Did it in MT a couple of weeks ago..----Metalguy |
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Visionary
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| A buddy of mine who has a ton of work done on his KP said Lloyds does have a way to beat the rev. limiter. I bounced off the limiter a bunch of times when on my first Vision trip this summer and someone was asking me about it during a discussion of my bike impressions. I could find out more info (specifics) if someone is interested, but I don't ride much above 70 these days except for the occasional burst while passing. Let me know and I'll find out. Might look into it myself for lower gear applications. |
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Tourer
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| please keep in mind Victory put the 120 mph limit in due to tire safety, or al least that's what the engineer's at the AVR said. |
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Tourer
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Carrollton, TX | IndyVision - 2008-10-12 7:24 PM please keep in mind Victory put the 120 mph limit in due to tire safety, or al least that's what the engineer's at the AVR said. Yes I know and I don't need Victory limiting my top end speed. Honda, Harley and BWM don't limit the top end speed and I don't need Victory doing it either. Everyone is using the H rated tires that are rated for 130 mph including Victory. These tires will do fine for short runs at 130 mph plus. No one is going to run at 120 plus for more than a few minutes. They could also go with a V rated tire good for 149 mph. I would probably only go over 120 a couple of times a year for short durations but I would like to have the ability to do it when I am riding with my Gold Wing buddies. |
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Visionary
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Jasper, MO | DITTO! I don't need a higher rev limiter, as 5400 RPM on a 4.25 inch stroke is already a pretty high piston speed, but I would like to get rid of the 6th gear speed limiter.
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Cruiser
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Madison, AL | I had mine up to 107 but didn't mean to. Just rolled on the throttle to pass some trucks and before I realize it I was at 107. Since I put on intake thingy from LLoyds I am running about 500rpms faster than my ear was use to. So I have been running a little faster than normal, and also running in lower gears. I was changing gears per manual instructions, however, I now run about 5mph faster than suggested in the book before changing gears. Now if that fuel controller would just get here, then off to the dyno.
Edited by david.terry 2008-10-18 10:01 PM
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Puddle Jumper
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Fate, TX (near DFW) | Just did a test ride today with my wife on back and hit 105 without any "squeezing" from behind. I know there was plenty left and it is amazing how stable this bike is for a feet forward, cruiser/touring style bike. Hit 170 several times on my ZZR1200 and the Vision seems as silky smooth as the ZZR was. |
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Puddle Jumper
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Salt lake city Ut. | We were running from slc to wendover nv 1 Vision 1 wing the Vision Started speed limiting at 126 on the speedo definatly had more throttle left, wing pulled away then we shut them down to 80 and decided black jack and a beer would be better than the crow bar hotel. |
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