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New Bohemia, VA | 3 guesses and the first two don't count:
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| Kick Stand. |
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| What Bumble said. |
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Rancho Cucamonga, CA | I'll go with 'broken kickstand'. |
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New Bohemia, VA | Nozzledog - 2014-07-17 9:45 PM I'll go with 'broken kickstand'. ding ding ding - we have winner.... |
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Rancho Cucamonga, CA | Bet you're glad to have tip-overs. |
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New Bohemia, VA | Yes, I am! It could have been much worse without them because I would have been under the bike when it happened. Now I'm in pursuit of a kick stand. Anyone got one they want to part with, cheap? |
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New Orleans, La, | I'll need to look and see if the kick stand is on the on the 08 problem list cause mine broke also. It seem that there is either too much lean engineered into the stand magnifying the stress at that point on the stand or the part is under engineered part. I wonder how many others experienced this failure? |
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Central Maryland | Yes, this is one of the things that I am wary about, on my Vision. The whole kickstand solution for the Vision seems ill-engineered; especially the ever widening hole where the kickstand's bolt goes through; in the lower frame. There should be some sort of bushing in there; but there's not.
My lean angle on my Vision seems to become more pronounced, as the years go by. And I am very gentle with it; when resting it on the kickstand. |
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New Bohemia, VA | I'm thinking this through, this is NOT a fresh break, snap and it is done. This has been broken for a while. What did it in was the bolt breaking. Given the engineering, it has done well. Kicks are not made to take a lot of weight, so standing on sideboards to mount or dismount is not good. I think what did it for mine is my wife sits on the bike when I get off, and then it is at rest on the kick. She then dismounts bearing more weight on it. I usually give it some support but there has been times I have not. I think it has held up well, considering. |
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on the edge of Los Angeles | Possibly a good PM for this is to update / replace the bolt around 100k or 5 years ?
It looks like form the pic it had been fractured for a while The later style atnds have a bit different foot that make it easier to get a hold of when you need o put the stand down..
Chris I am sure you can ebay for one out there |
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Ruskin, Fl | Considering how I park my bike in my garage a kickstand failure would be a disaster.
My last Vision I traded in had a Ness 21" front. It was an extreme lean. One of the things I didn't like about the big wheel. Parked on the side of a road that wasn't flat proved a workout to stand the bike up sometimes. I used a block on wood in the garage to keep the fairing off the wall. |
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Sand Rock, AL United States | I carry a 2 x 4 block of wood everywhere I go. My bike leans too far also! I know it has to be bent. I learned from this forum that our stands are bending. My wife also is the last one off but like Chris, I apply force to the bars to minimize extra stress on the stand as she dismounts. If I had the money , I would lower mine 2 inches and keep the stock stand (it would still lean adequately.) |
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Central Maryland | He Varyder, is the lower frame's hole elongated; that the kickstand bolt goes through? |
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Pittsburgh, PA | kick starter? |
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New Bohemia, VA | I'll get back to you Will. |
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| not cheap but here U go
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=victory+vision&_osacat=0&_... |
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Ruskin, Fl | Holy Crap! Sidestand for a 2008 is $186.99 list price. Yikes.
Only 91.99 for 2011 and up.
08, 09, and 10 are different part numbers and prices vary a couple of bucks.
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Central Maryland | Replacement parts always "blow" for the Vison... as well as other less distributed motorcycles.
Varyder needs to find a welder; a case of beer should get that thing repaired (even stronger than OEM) when it's finished.
All that is involved is a new piece of steel; grind down; with a hole drilled in it; and then adequately welded back to it.
Then a nice coat of primer and paint.
If he took that in to a good welder, it's a piece of cake. He could do it while eating his lunch
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New Bohemia, VA | I could do that, and I might do that will. I have the part and good local welder. Perhaps that is the route I may take, just need to get it too them, they're open when I'm out work and closed when I'm working. I think I'll be late Monday morning to work. Thanks. |
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Central Maryland | I can't tell from the pic that you posted; was that the inside or outside portion that broke off?
If the outside...
Make sure they weld a slight gusset as well; to the outside bend of the point; where the kickstand bolts to the frame. Then send a picture of it to Ma Vic; to show them how to manufacture a strong kickstand.
Still am interested in any elongated wear of the hole in your frame; where the kickstand's bolt runs through....
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New Bohemia, VA | I'll look tomorrow, but it is the outside that broke, |
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| On welding the stand. It will hold the parts together but the stand is cast. I welded mine when it broke but it bent at the weld. After I replaced mine with a chrome one(under $100.00) it started to lean more in a couple of months . Lost the nut. Replaced it and locktited it. |
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New Bohemia, VA | Not bad.
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Central Maryland | That's heartening to see Varyder. Sure seems to be a lot of play in my kickstand; at the point where it attached to the frame.
Thanks for posting the pictures.
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Danbury, Connecticut | Of course the root cause of the failure is obvious. You are leaving the weight of the motorcycle placed on the kickstand far too much. If you would simply be out riding more, this would not happen. This should be a wake up call to Rollin, for he too leaves his bike on the side stand way too much. Obviously, I'm kidding. The fact that the bike has air suspension- thus a wider range of ride height, means there is no optimum length stand and there must be some compromise so the bike isn't too vertical with minimal air in the shock. A block under the stand is the simplest solution. I think some graphite dry lube spray might help slow the wear of those contact surfaces-grease would tend to attract grit. You also need to look at wear and tear in dog years-for instance, what you took three years to wear out will take the typical rider about twenty one years. Thanks for pointing out these issues. Ride safe. |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Well said, Steve ! Me - I have recently trained my Co-Pilot to do all the 'non-piloting' activities - such as 'Getting off the bike first - and using her more dainty features to lower the side-stand so that I need not get my shoes upset by seeking very hot metal that is hard to dis-associate from screeching hot exhaust coolant features. I have totally ruined too many left foot shoes/boots with that goddamned useless piece of shit Victory put on as a 'side stand' ....... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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