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Puddle Jumper
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Waxahachie, TX United States | Thanks all for the informative posts. I have spent the last 2 weeks perusing all the post in the tech forum while waiting on my bike to be repaired. Long story short, bought an '08 VV with 20k miles on it. Went for a short ride and the rear drive pulley sheared all the bolts leaving me stranded about an hour from home. I had only put approx. 300 miles on the bike since purchase. Had the bike towed to the shop, RPM1 denied claim saying they don't cover bolts. Spoke with the dealership and they finally advised they would cover labor if I bought the parts. Unacceptable! Filed a collision claim with my insurance carrier. Met the adjuster and 5 minutes later the carrier issued a check for the damage. I will be cancelling the extended warranty! |
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Broken Arrow, OK | dang!!! Sheared the bolts how? Something lock up your wheel? How fast were you going and what did that sound and feel like? Glad you weren't seriously hurt from it. |
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Visionary
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| the pulley bolts backed out. Some times when guys get new rear tire deler will take pulley off and they don't locktight and tourq it right when they put it back together |
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Pittsburgh, PA | Didn't they (victory) change that very configuration in 09?? |
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| When they replaced my rear pulley under extended warranty they did not cover the bolts. Did the previous owner do his own maintenance? Sure he won't admit now. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | http://www.thevog.net/forum/thread/21974/vision-rear-pully-bolts/
for what its worth. i thought this was interesting.. that after 1 year of production this was changed..
2008 http://parts.polarisind.com/images/VIC/WHEELRR/08VN.gif
2009 http://parts.polarisind.com/images/VIC/WHEELRR/09VN.gif
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New Bohemia, VA | Wow, this is very interesting I have an 08 and I have pulled the pulley off several times and never had any issues. I even have the original nuts, no lock tight. Am I living on the edge or what? Sorry to hear of your misfortune. |
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Iron Butt
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Perry Hall, MD | Had a previous member who reported a similar incident. It followed his doing some work which included removal of the pulley. I don't believe that he responded to a question about orientation of the nuts when it was reinstalled. For anyone who has ever put a lug nut on you know that the cone shaped side faces the wheel. The drive pulley nuts look like lug nuts, but the flat side goes against the pulley. I have to wonder if incorrect installation is causing these failures. |
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Iron Butt
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Broken Arrow, OK | Arkainzeye - 2014-06-20 8:37 PM
http://www.thevog.net/forum/thread/21974/vision-rear-pully-bolts/
for what its worth. i thought this was interesting.. that after 1 year of production this was changed..
2008 http://parts.polarisind.com/images/VIC/WHEELRR/08VN.gif
2009 http://parts.polarisind.com/images/VIC/WHEELRR/09VN.gif
I think so too, thanks for posting |
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| varyder - 2014-06-20 8:53 PM Wow, this is very interesting I have an 08 and I have pulled the pulley off several times and never had any issues. I even have the original nuts, no lock tight. Am I living on the edge or what? Sorry to hear of your misfortune. I would lock tight them and torque to spec |
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Pittsburgh, PA | when i had a 08 vision i removed my pulley a few times.. But i also reinstalled it using a torque wrench... i wonder how many people actually use those things.... |
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New Bohemia, VA | I use torque wrenches on some applications, like the steering head. I may have used it a time or two on the pulley, but I don't recall doing it lately. I'm not saying don't use one, I just don't find the real need, arguable I know. But I have a very good track record on being a shadetree mechanic. My bigger problme has been when I "forgot" to tighten my axle nut, yikes!!! |
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Puddle Jumper
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Waxahachie, TX United States | Not sure what caused it. I was accelerating onto the highway had a small lurch and no power to rear wheel. As I was poking around the rear wheel I found a hammer newly configured in a v shape lying next to the bike. The adjuster seemed to agree that this was the cause. $1800 repair for new wheel, pulley and bearings less my $250 deductible. I would highly recommend Geico insurance. I should have the bike back late next week. Thanks all! |
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Puddle Jumper
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Waxahachie, TX United States | Good news! Picked up the Vision today. As I was inspecting the work I noticed the dealership has used bolts instead of the studs that originally attached the rear drive sprocket. Sounds like there might be an issue that Polaris is not communicating with us! |
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| Vic did a way with the studs and went to bolts I think in 2010 |
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Tampa, Fl United States | I had the same exact problem on my 2008, my dealership payed for the tow, warranty covered new pulley and the the bolts (no studs anymore) and still driving on original belt which now has 48k, when it happen it was approx 20k miles. Either your dealership doesn't have a good relationship with the rep or laziness or lack of knowledge to work with the warranty process!
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Sand Rock, AL United States | Chris, Arkainzeye, what was the reason to remove the rear pulley ? multiple times? |
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New Bohemia, VA | me or him? Everytime I change my tire, my pulley comes off. I don't think I've had it off otherwise except when I had to replace it when the belt jumped off...
No big deal to me, and I agree about torqueing, even if I don't do it. Some of my studs are bolts since they will back out instead of the nut coming off. That's never bothered me either. |
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Sand Rock, AL United States | thanks , I was just wondering. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | Jimtom, the reason I removed my pulley was doing my Own tire changes. I was afraid to damage the pulley during the process. |
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| Most shops tire machine can't handle the size of our pulley or if it does it can nick the edge of the pulley.
The reason you torque bolts down is so you get even pressure all the way around for a true run out |
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Sand Rock, AL United States | I understand and that makes sense. |
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Iron Butt
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| johnnyvision - 2014-07-15 4:41 PM
Most shops tire machine can't handle the size of our pulley or if it does it can nick the edge of the pulley.
That's true. I had to clearance the wheel supports on mine so they didn't screw up the pulley's paint job. I had to stop at a Polaris dealer for new tires on our road trip last year and sure enough he removed the pulley to change the tire. Now that I'm thinking about it I probably shouldn't have bothered to replace the bolts this time when I replaced the pulley. On the upcoming trip they'll probably remove it again.
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New Bohemia, VA | inspect the belt guard. I had mine get loose on the press welds and come off into the belt, pushing it off the pulley screaming down I-95. The belt did not break but it did damage the pulley. I as able to get the belt back on and get it back home. This would only apply to the early guards made of metal. I think the '09s they went to a more sturdy plastic model. go figure. |
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Vision in the shop.