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Shelbyville, IL United States | I have 4500 miles on my Vision. I am leaving for Miami Fl on the 26th of April. I will prolly have around 5000 on the bike when I leave. 2700 mile round trip. Will the rear tire make it that long, A total of 8000 miles on tire when I return. Hate to have tire changed on the road. Thanks. |
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New Bohemia, VA | Keep it at 42psi, cold. 12,000+ |
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Shelbyville, IL United States | Thanks. What do you run in the front tire? |
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New Bohemia, VA | About 40psi cold. |
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New Mexico | new vic rider - 2014-03-27 7:04 PM
I have 4500 miles on my Vision. I am leaving for Miami Fl on the 26th of April. I will prolly have around 5000 on the bike when I leave. 2700 mile round trip. Will the rear tire make it that long, A total of 8000 miles on tire when I return. Hate to have tire changed on the road. Thanks.
You should be good. You will probably get 10-12k miles, although as I recall my first set of tires wore out a little sooner than expected.
I'm at about 20k on my rear, and will be fine another 10-20k.
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Central Illinois | Tire life depends on your riding style. I ride like an old man so when I set out for central Florida a couple of weeks ago with 9000 miles on the bike I didn't worry about tires. 2500 miles later I am home and both tires are still fine. If I spent my time trying to see how fast I could ride the dragon I am sure my tire life would be very different. |
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Central Maryland | I run the same PSI's in my tires as varyder; 40/42psi and I weigh about 240 pounds. Ride solo most of the time. I have just about 17k on my Vision now, rear tire looks like it could go to 20K and the front tire is at half wear.
I love the E3's. They are howling a little more now; but that's ok with me. |
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Sturbridge, Mass | I avg about 13K on a set of E3's- mostly all highway miles.
Run 40psi in front- 41 in rear
200#s & all solo- going to give the new E3 MT tire one last shot, hoping for better wet weather feel/grip. |
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Shelbyville, IL United States | Thanks for the info guys. I had a VTX 1800 before and the back tire would only last about 5000 to 7000 miles. I ride agreesive. The touque the Vision has does not even compare to the VTX. No smokey burnouts on the Vision lol. |
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| hottierod - 2014-03-28 4:47 AM
I avg about 13K on a set of E3's- mostly all highway miles.
Run 40psi in front- 41 in rear
200#s & all solo- going to give the new E3 MT tire one last shot, hoping for better wet weather feel/grip.
I'd like to hear what you think of the current E3's wet performance. I went to Cobras for just that reason.
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New Mexico | willtill - 2014-03-28 3:18 AM
I run the same PSI's in my tires as varyder; 40/42psi and I weigh about 240 pounds. Ride solo most of the time. I have just about 17k on my Vision now, rear tire looks like it could go to 20K and the front tire is at half wear.
I love the E3's. They are howling a little more now; but that's ok with me.
Wow! That's great. With almost the same scenario I got about half that out of my E3s. My climate is much dryer and warmer than Maryland. I wonder if that is what makes the difference??
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| I'm lucky to get to 10K on tires. We do almost all riding 2-up with a full load. The OP should be fine.
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| Boots - 2014-03-28 9:56 AM
willtill - 2014-03-28 3:18 AM
I run the same PSI's in my tires as varyder; 40/42psi and I weigh about 240 pounds. Ride solo most of the time. I have just about 17k on my Vision now, rear tire looks like it could go to 20K and the front tire is at half wear.
I love the E3's. They are howling a little more now; but that's ok with me.
Wow! That's great. With almost the same scenario I got about half that out of my E3s. My climate is much dryer and warmer than Maryland. I wonder if that is what makes the difference??
riding style...never got more than 8500 outta my rear tire. same PSI. |
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Central Maryland | Boots - 2014-03-28 10:56 AM
willtill - 2014-03-28 3:18 AM
I run the same PSI's in my tires as varyder; 40/42psi and I weigh about 240 pounds. Ride solo most of the time. I have just about 17k on my Vision now, rear tire looks like it could go to 20K and the front tire is at half wear.
I love the E3's. They are howling a little more now; but that's ok with me.
Wow! That's great. With almost the same scenario I got about half that out of my E3s. My climate is much dryer and warmer than Maryland. I wonder if that is what makes the difference??
It could be. I probably ride 80 percent highway/20 percent around town. Here is a picture of the tread of my rear E3 tire, currently at 17246 miles:
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| Tire life is up to you. With a good gage checking the first of every month you'll see you have lost some air. So if you put it off now you;ll loose more air.
When it gets over 95 degrees out side check every two weeks and you'll see you lost all most four pounds of air.
The pencil stick gages are a joke specially the one in the tool kit.
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New Orleans, La, | New Vic Rider, something must be wrong with your ride. I do smokey burn outs at will and had to rein it in cause my rear tyre life sucked. Currently run 42/42 on Shinko journeys and getting 20K+ on them. Actually the best tyres for milage I've ever run. 200lbs mostly solo inner city. 75+k currently on the clock on an '08. |
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| Check your air everyday if you want, if 90% of your miles are on mountain twisties scrapping boards 8500 tops is all you get |
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Fountain Inn, SC United States | V92SC - 2014-03-28 9:56 PM
New Vic Rider, something must be wrong with your ride. I do smokey burn outs at will and had to rein it in cause my rear tyre life sucked. Currently run 42/42 on Shinko journeys and getting 20K+ on them. Actually the best tyres for milage I've ever run. 200lbs mostly solo inner city. 75+k currently on the clock on an '08.
Impressive! How would you rate the Shinkos in the rain as compared to the E3s? I have Shinkos on my v92c and they are easy to break free on acceleration. Makes me cautious of giving it the gas in a curve. |
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New Orleans, La, | The Shinkos are average in the rain but my '08 106 was warmed over and can break most any tyre in the wet. Avon Cobras are the best wet road tyres out there bar none and get adequate milage ie 18-20K. My experience with the E3's was 14K and cupping bad at 9K and above average before cupping but below average after cupping. |
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Cedar Rapids, IA United States | I have Avon Cobra's on my 2013. Running 42 psi in the front & 46 psi in the rear per the Avon tech line. I have @ 6k on them - I like the way they feel better than the Dunlop E3's, |
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Peru, IN | I've got 12k on my front (original) E3. I figure I can get another 3-4k miles out of it before I start to feel uncomfortable. I hope the front dual compound E3 is out by then. |
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Victoria Tx, TX United States | Any one with Centramatics on their bike? I know in Big Trucks the tire life is much longer with them. |
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Cedar Rapids, IA United States | http://centramatic.com/Page.aspx?page=Video%20Installation%20For%20...
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| Hello all,
I am a newbie here. I have had my vi vi for 6 weeks and put about 1500 miles up on it.
I am in Australia, but I think that my comments although general, may help. A great deal of tyre life has to do with the road surface material. Here, in Victoria, in the western area of the state, the bitumen is comprised mostly of basalt type stone. Tyres wear quickly due to the hard, abrasive characteristics of that material. In the east of the state it is a bluestone base which doesn't wear tyres as quickly.
Hope that this helps
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| Avon Cobra update: in the past I've been running 39 front and 47 rear solo, no trunk and riding fast including a lot of twisties. The front would normally go about 10k miles and the rear about 6k miles. They work great wet or dry, do not square off or get noisy as the miles add up. As an experiment with the current set I lowered the pressures down to 36/42. The front now has 11.5k on it and nowhere near the wear bars. The rear has 6.2k on it and looks like there's somewhere between 1500 - 2000 left. They don't last anywhere near as long as E3s do but for me their other advantages far outweigh the lower mileage.
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Westchester Co., NY | I only get about 7500-8000 miles on the front E-3's. Tire pressure is checked regularly. I was planning on trying the Avon to see how that will last. But the above post suggests I will get even less mileage out of them. As I already ordered the tire I guess I am going to try it anyway. |
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New Bohemia, VA | Really, that is not good. Are you keeping 40-41psi or are you going lower? If lower, it's really bad on the tires and it doesn't handle as well as the 40-41 range. You must have really rough roads in the empire state. |
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| Tire life is a lot up to you. Check the air the first of every month and you'll see about a 3 pound loss and when the temp gets over 95 degrees check every two weeks and you'll see a 3 to 4 pound loss. Use a good tire gauge
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| The vision is the best bike I've ever had at holding constant air pressure. I have a $100 liquid filled atmo-presure equalizing race guage, and my tires are never more than 1psi off when I check them, if that. I probably only check them maybe once a month. Getting ready to put on 3rd rear tire, got about 10K out of old one. Last front tire got about 11k.
Texas roads are tire munchers. Fairly smooth, but the surface is large grit sand paper. |
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Mechanicsville, VA United States | I've got(and you won't believe it) 18,000 miles on both front and back on my vision....keep them at 40/41F and 41/42R, was checking them every day I rode until I bought the tire air pressure monitoring system(TPS). I've had replacement tire setting on my garage floor for over a year thinking I would need them around 12,000 miles, just got back from a 1,000 miles three days ride and was thinking I would need to change them out.....nope not yet, still look good, front and back.. |
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| Wow, that is unbelievable!
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Stoughton, WI | what tires are u running? |
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Delray Beach, FL United States | Kept mine at 38 / 38 for about 15000 miles or so needed to change the back and replaced front for piece of mind even though I could have gone another 4 or 5 thousand on the front. I'm using the E3 again but I also had the Avon Venoms on my VTX1800 and liked them a lot. We'll see come the next time to change them. |
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Conneaut, OH | V92SC - 2014-03-28 9:56 PM
New Vic Rider, something must be wrong with your ride. I do smokey burn outs at will and had to rein it in cause my rear tyre life sucked. Currently run 42/42 on Shinko journeys and getting 20K+ on them. Actually the best tyres for milage I've ever run. 200lbs mostly solo inner city. 75+k currently on the clock on an '08.
I had looked at the Shinkos but the load index is only 74 (827lbs) for the rear quite a bit lower than the E3's |
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Jasper, MO | conn-e-rot - 2014-06-06 7:56 AM
V92SC - 2014-03-28 9:56 PM
New Vic Rider, something must be wrong with your ride. I do smokey burn outs at will and had to rein it in cause my rear tyre life sucked. Currently run 42/42 on Shinko journeys and getting 20K+ on them. Actually the best tyres for milage I've ever run. 200lbs mostly solo inner city. 75+k currently on the clock on an '08.
I had looked at the Shinkos but the load index is only 74 (827lbs) for the rear quite a bit lower than the E3's
True. BUT, the OEM Dunlop E3s were rated at 74, my owner's manual calls for tires rated at 74, and when I weighed the rear of my bike separately from the front, with the bike loaded, the weight on the rear tire was less than 827 pounds.
The front tire carries a lot higher percentage of the weight than you might expect.
Unless you're riding wheelies a lot, a 74 rated tire is sufficient.
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Conneaut, OH | rdbudd - 2014-06-06 11:45 AM
conn-e-rot - 2014-06-06 7:56 AM
V92SC - 2014-03-28 9:56 PM
New Vic Rider, something must be wrong with your ride. I do smokey burn outs at will and had to rein it in cause my rear tyre life sucked. Currently run 42/42 on Shinko journeys and getting 20K+ on them. Actually the best tyres for milage I've ever run. 200lbs mostly solo inner city. 75+k currently on the clock on an '08.
I had looked at the Shinkos but the load index is only 74 (827lbs) for the rear quite a bit lower than the E3's
True. BUT, the OEM Dunlop E3s were rated at 74, my owner's manual calls for tires rated at 74, and when I weighed the rear of my bike separately from the front, with the bike loaded, the weight on the rear tire was less than 827 pounds.
The front tire carries a lot higher percentage of the weight than you might expect.
Unless you're riding wheelies a lot, a 74 rated tire is sufficient.
Ronnie
Well maybe I will give them a try |
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Jasper, MO | conn-e-rot - 2014-06-09 7:58 AM
rdbudd - 2014-06-06 11:45 AM
conn-e-rot - 2014-06-06 7:56 AM
V92SC - 2014-03-28 9:56 PM
New Vic Rider, something must be wrong with your ride. I do smokey burn outs at will and had to rein it in cause my rear tyre life sucked. Currently run 42/42 on Shinko journeys and getting 20K+ on them. Actually the best tyres for milage I've ever run. 200lbs mostly solo inner city. 75+k currently on the clock on an '08.
I had looked at the Shinkos but the load index is only 74 (827lbs) for the rear quite a bit lower than the E3's
True. BUT, the OEM Dunlop E3s were rated at 74, my owner's manual calls for tires rated at 74, and when I weighed the rear of my bike separately from the front, with the bike loaded, the weight on the rear tire was less than 827 pounds.
The front tire carries a lot higher percentage of the weight than you might expect.
Unless you're riding wheelies a lot, a 74 rated tire is sufficient.
Ronnie
Well maybe I will give them a try
I'm not promoting them, because I haven't got enough miles on it yet, but so far I'm liking the Shinko. I especially like the price compared to everything else. Handling and ride seem more like a Bridgestone than a Dunlop, and the lifespan is yet unknown to me. It seems to be wearing really well.
I've never seen another motorcycle tire that starts out with as deep a tread as the Shinko. It has much deeper tread (new) than the Dunlops or the Bridgestones I've used before.
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| Hi guys. I have 130/70R18 Dunlop Elite 3 on my end and I only run about 6000Km to date with no load at all and with exactly 39PSI front 40psi rear. This is a new vision, FYI. After my 5000Km mark, I then constantly check the pressure of my tire every other day. I don't know if the tires have holes on the tube, but I am constantly losing pressure to about 0.8psi on all tires! Right now, I'm on 6K km mark and the psi is about 30-33psi on all tires! This is surely impossible all tires have holes!
I'm using AccuTire digital tire gauge and its price is a hefty one. This gauge has been on my toolbox for about or over a year now. Could it be this doesn't have enough battery? But the rep says, AccuTire gauges can run to up to 3-4years! Such a shame. I must've chosen a reliable digital gauge. Anyone can suggest? I browsed some stuffs on amazon and I found a couple of decent gauges from trustworthy company - Michelin. Anyone tried it? How about its accuracy rate? I am also interested on Mountain Crest premium digital tire gauge which has about 90days money back guarantee. Anyone?
These are the products mentioned from their respective amazon store:
http://www.amazon.com/Mountain-Crest-Products-Pressure-Accurate/dp/...
http://www.amazon.com/Michelin-MN-12279-Digital-Programmable-Gauge/... |
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Rancho Cucamonga, CA | Dunlop E3s also come in bias. They will have a lot shorter lifespan. I have seen posts from guys who accidentally got the wrong ones. |
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CASHTON, WI United States | CHANGED FRONT AND REAR AT 19,400 MILES. MAYBE A LITTLE LONG BUT THE E3s WORK FOR ME!
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Mechanicsville, VA United States | Well I just got back from a 700 miles trip(two days) and checked my tires again, they're still not on the wear bars yet but they are very close...they're E3 radials....BTW I was in the mountains of Virginia and West Va. so I did use a lot of the sides of the tires so that may the reason the center didn't wear out completely... I'm truly amazed at these tires. These tires are not the MT E3's either but the new rear tire I'm putting back on is so I'm expecting even better mileage but I wouldn't be mad if they make it as far as the E3's on my bike right now. I got the MT E3 rear tire for $190 with free shipping on eBay. |
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Gotha, FL | Right now I am running a little over 14,000 miles on my current E3's and just finished a 6,000 mile round trip out to the west coast. I run front and rear with nitrogen at 40 psi. Checked the tire pressure a couple of times on the trip at much higher altitudes out west and never had to touch the tires. They stayed the same the entire trip. Something is not right for you to only be getting 7500 miles out of a set. Have talked to a rep from Dunlop about it? Maybe they can shed some light on it. |
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| Cement will wear tires faster then asphalt. Going around corners at a sharp angle will wear tires faster. Start and stops wear tires faster. There is a hole bunch of reason why tires wear fast. Its up to you to keep the air up in the tires. The rubber is pours so air leaks out. Like I said a good gauge will add to your tire life.
Heck I just tuck off a Metzler 880 from the front it had 17 thousand on it and it was right at the end of the wear bar. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | so many other things beside air pressure effects tire life as well.. suspension, road conditions, how you ride, (aggressive or not) Weight of the rider or riders. so many things.... but of course air pressure being the easiest to check and correct... if it was as simple as only air pressure no one would have ALL these issues i read about just about every day regarding $hitty tire life....
what is your rear shock air pressure set at? does it coincide with the chart in the saddle bag?
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