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New Bohemia, VA | Opinions? |
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Pittsburgh, PA | http://ls1tech.com/forums/gears-axles/3023-performance-friction-car... |
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New Bohemia, VA | I've read some reviews and most say they are junk, few say, no issue. I was asking the Vision riders who have stepped down and got these pads. Personally, I will not put them on and will get the HBC(?) pads that I've always gotten. I really wasn't paying attention when I ordered these off of fleabay. When I got them, I looked at them and said, "Not on my bike". There's no one for me to complain to but myself, they are what they are, and I looked at price verses composite, no one to blame but myself. |
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Central Maryland | So... what are good, replacement pads other than what the Vision comes with? I'm sure that it has been talked about before.... but maybe new insight and experience with other pads is now relevant. |
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New Bohemia, VA | I never gave it any thought before either. Then I was being cheap and ordered them off of eBay. I see these things I say, "what? no they're not going on my bike!" So before I jump to conclusions I wanted to ask and see if anybody else have tried the carbon kelvar pads. They seem like they would wear out rather quickly. |
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Central Maryland | I know that the EBC sintered brake pads on my Rocket have HUGE stopping power; but at the expense of longevity. The OEM organic ones lasted longer, but did not have the same stopping power and also left a lot of brake dust on the wheel.
Sintered brake pads transfer heat to the caliber. not the rotor. Rotors wear quicker though.
Organic pads transfer the heat to the rotor. Brake fade can be more pronounced.
What do you want? Longevity or powerful braking?
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Pittsburgh, PA | im just wondering.. ( i have no proof) could some TYPES of pads be "rougher" on the disc's , and shorten their life span and cause increase maintenance cost due to replacement of the disc.. my rear disc failed on my 08,. (not cause of brake pads) it was $200 just for 1 !! |
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New Bohemia, VA | I needs powerful braking, unless I change my ways... |
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Glendale, AZ United States | Go with the EBC brake pads. You won't find too many people out there that don't like em irregardless of what they are riding. Brake pads are very straight forward to replace, especially if you take the plunge and roll with the rapid "one way valve" bleeders. Some Vic-specific youtube videos through Witchdoctors below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gedF0GE6vkM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsQdAIbe_F8 |
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Central Illinois | Willtill, the OEM brake pads on my Vision really suck. There is no way I will replace them with pads from Victory. Front or rear are really wooden in their response and I need to exert so much effort to get any effective braking that when I get close to stopped it really trips me up. The brake suddenly grabs at low speeds and I get a very jerky stop. It is so bad even my passenger has remarked on it. Yes I do know it could be just me but why just with this bike? |
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Puddle Jumper
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East Troy, WI United States | I put the kelvar brake pads on my Valk, Did not like them at all. Took them off as soon as new one arrived in mail. I will try ceramic next. I think EBC has those as well. |
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| We use the same pad as a gold wing 1800
I use EBC sintered metal stop great way way better then stock. Not cheap but then life is not cheap if you want to live. Front p/n FA261HH Rear FA196HH
https://www.denniskirk.com/ebc/double-h-sintered-metal-brake-pads.p1... |
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Visionary
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| I have this though of chamfering or countersink all my little holes on the rotors. It should not affect the stopping whats so ever but I'm thinking the pads would last longer
with out the sharp holes pealing off a layer of the pad. |
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Central Maryland | johnnyvision - 2014-03-23 7:32 PM
I have this though of chamfering or countersink all my little holes on the rotors. It should not affect the stopping whats so ever but I'm thinking the pads would last longer
with out the sharp holes pealing off a layer of the pad.
That is an interesting modification. I wonder if it has ever been done. |
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New Bohemia, VA | Hmmmm. From an engineering stand point it keeps the rotors and pads cooler, effecting greater stopping power. Because of the surface area that straddle the holes maintains the level, there would be no "pealing" of layers. If that would be the case you would see uneven wear precisely where the holes are and the same width. The uneven wear you will encounter stems from running your pads too low, or from grit and grime that gets on the pad edge.
Thanks for all of the input. I order without giving much thought, but upon receiving them I thought they were made of oatmeal. I will not put them on my bike, but will go get the trusty EBC (previously said HBC). It's just a lesson for me, about a $30 education session, to think through and research if I go with something different than the norm in the future. If anybody wants them, I will give them to you. You pay shipping. |
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Cruiser
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| I used Honda Goldwing Brake Pads from Honda and they have a better feel then Victory's and are wearing about the same. |
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| with the holes having sharp edges I do think you loose something. Rotor company's don't do it cause it adds coast to the rotor and they sell all they make and we come back for more.
I did see gold wing 1800's rotors have a six bolt pattern. Don't know if its the same but they might be a hole lot cheaper then Vic's $191 bucks |
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