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| I just purchased a 2011 Vision. What recommendation on the type of fuel I should use. Regular or Premiun? |
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Jasper, MO | Premium is recommended by the manufacturer.
In practice, I use the lowest grade that the bike doesn't ping on. That will vary according to the ambient temperatures. I can run Regular in the Spring and Fall when temperatures are more moderate, but when it gets really hot in the Summer I have to go to Premium to keep the pinging away.
Ronnie |
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Iron Butt
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Manchester, CT | I run premium. I'm not sure its worth the risk of going to a lower octane since pinging can quickly cause havoc in the motor |
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, IA | 85 to 91 when u travel u buy what they sell |
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Central Maryland | Premium. With periodic doses of SeaFoam. |
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Puddle Jumper
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| Regular all the time bike runs no differant with premium fuel. Just makes me spend more for little or no benefit |
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Troy, NY | I use mid grade to hedge my bet. No problems. |
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Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | rdbudd - 2013-11-20 3:07 PM
In practice, I use the lowest grade that the bike doesn't ping on. That will vary according to the ambient temperatures. I can run Regular in the Spring and Fall when temperatures are more moderate, but when it gets really hot in the Summer I have to go to Premium to keep the pinging away.
Ronnie
+1
I found that I can use the lowest available around here which is 85. Only when I pull a trailer with 2up do I use higher octane. The Vision would probably do fine on 85 with a load, but I have never tested it to be sure. I have used as low as 87 with a load with no detonation. |
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| here is what Lloydz say
Save yourself some money, MAYBE.
This applies to all models and years.
On Stock compression Victory's that are NOT being run on closed loop you can drop your octane down to
the lowest level that does not cause the motor to have "Detonation" Pinging. Running a higher than needed octane level does
nothing for performance and just costs more money. Now one of the key elements in this is, the rider needs to know what detonation or
pinging sounds like and be able to determine that when your testing the lower octane levels. It wont be uncommon for most 99-07 bikes to
run 87 octane and perform better. One thing that can cause a bike not to like a lower octane level is a lean condition, the leaner a bike runs (14.5/1) and
higher the more octane thats needed to suppress detionation. Lean conditions can be a result of fueling or intake air leaks.
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Glendale, AZ United States | Put the good stuff in it. Why get cheap with the gas on a high dollar tourer? Put some Chevron with Techron in that bad boy. |
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| Gooseboy - 2013-11-20 1:17 PM I just purchased a 2011 Vision. What recommendation on the type of fuel I should use. Regular or Premium? Did you read your owners book to see what Vic recommends? What do you put in the tank to be fair with us. |
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Iron Butt
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| For the first 3 years I owned my Vision I used mid grade during the summer and regular during the colder months when it was regularly below 50 degrees. After those first 3 years I was ready to go back to a Goldwing or even over to a Harley full dresser such as the Road Glide Ultra simple because of the vibration that never really lessened even after over 35K miles. At the beginning of the 2011 riding season I thought I would give the Vision on last chance but I made the decision to run only premium no matter the temperature. It took about a month of riding, about 1500 miles, to get the ECMs fuel injection settings adjusted to the higher octane fuel but an amazing thing happened, the vibration was almost eliminated. I can only figure that the engine was knocking slightly which caused the excessive vibration because one of the things higher octane fuel helps eliminate is knock and ping. Either way, the Vision is here to stay in my garage and although I didn't put as many miles on this year as I normally do, at only about 8000, the riding since changing to premium fuel has been the most enjoyable in my years of riding. |
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | Victory recommends premium because they have to worry about the stupidest person; in the worst conditions. If they had a chart, and some idiot ran regular in death valley; they could possibly be held liable. |
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Central Maryland | Yea, Vic recommends premium so that's all I've ever put it it. Why is this a question in the first place? |
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | willtill - 2013-12-09 1:52 PM
Yea, Vic recommends premium so that's all I've ever put it it. Why is this a question in the first place?
Because some of us don't think that carbon build up from incomplete combustion; is a good thing.
I also only wash my hair one time when I take a shower. Instead of wash, rinse, repeat; like the shampoo companies tell me
Edited by kevinx 2013-12-09 2:14 PM
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Central Maryland | So is there an actual issue of carbon buildup in the 106 motor from premium usage; or is it just a possibility that it happens infrequently?
Opinion and conjecture? Or fact with the Vic motor? |
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Pittsburgh, PA | i used the Highest grade DEPENDING on the heat.. (out side temps) if it is not very hot out i will try to get a 91.. but alot of the time i will use a 89.. like someone else said, you use what they got.. |
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Marietta, GA | My last check of the engine, I had lots of carbon buildup on the plugs, but not sure if it was due to the premium gas I was using or maybe a little too much ethanol stabilizer treatment from the previous winter. |
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | willtill - 2013-12-09 3:24 PM
So is there an actual issue of carbon buildup in the 106 motor from premium usage; or is it just a possibility that it happens infrequently?
Opinion and conjecture? Or fact with the Vic motor?
Have seen significant carbon on 106 exhaust valves, and a nice thick coat on the crown; which created hot spots. Creating the need for premium. I have also had enough carbon build up on the top of a 92"; that it literally hit the head, and caused a horrible knocking noise.
This is an old conversation, and this type of build up is well documented
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Central Maryland | What's a good way of burning it off? Back in the day, I used to dump tranny fluid down the throat of carburetors (cars and trucks) to supposedly burn the carbon off the heads and pistons.
I do like SeaFoam. Everything I use it in runs better after a dosage of it. Would a heavy dosage of SeaFoam help keep the carbon at bay? |
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Jasper, MO | willtill - 2013-12-09 5:34 PM
What's a good way of burning it off? Back in the day, I used to dump tranny fluid down the throat of carburetors (cars and trucks) to supposedly burn the carbon off the heads and pistons.
I do like SeaFoam. Everything I use it in runs better after a dosage of it. Would a heavy dosage of SeaFoam help keep the carbon at bay?
I like to use the throttle. An occasional hard run up through the gears keeps the carbon cleaned out.
Back in the day, we used to call it "blowing the cobwebs out".
Ronnie
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| rdbudd - 2013-12-09 5:50 PM
willtill - 2013-12-09 5:34 PM
What's a good way of burning it off? Back in the day, I used to dump tranny fluid down the throat of carburetors (cars and trucks) to supposedly burn the carbon off the heads and pistons.
I do like SeaFoam. Everything I use it in runs better after a dosage of it. Would a heavy dosage of SeaFoam help keep the carbon at bay?
I like to use the throttle. An occasional hard run up through the gears keeps the carbon cleaned out.
Back in the day, we used to call it "blowing the cobwebs out".
Ronnie
Oh my, does that bring back some memories. Don't know if I could afford to do that today. |
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Type of fuel. Regular or Premiun?