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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | There's TOO MANY of them out there. Should be just ONE - mine ...
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Afer riding the Indian 111, I may need to get cams done on the Vision. 
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Peru, IN | There are a few things I think could be improved but I wouldn't extend my loan for another couple years just for the few minor improvements. |
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Prairie City, IA United States | It sits in the garage or parking lot at work way to much. 50K in 2 years is pathetic for the Vision.  |
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| Double Vision - 2013-11-18 11:39 AM I wish the saddle bags were somewhat bigger and more user friendly. Afer riding the Indian 111, I may need to get cams done on the Vision. Other than that, the Vision is a great machine! maybe there is
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Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | Clunky transmission shifting. Love the way the rest of the bike rides though. |
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New Bohemia, VA | Goodnight! ! Say it isn't so JV. I feel like I was just kicked in the stomach. |
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New Bohemia, VA | Goodnight! ! Say it isn't so JV. I feel like I was just kicked in the stomach. |
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Peru, IN | JV --- The front top edge of those are going to dig into your legs or butt. |
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seattle, wa | JohnnyVision, I need to see more of that!! |
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New Bohemia, VA | I'm scared of that JV. I figure out if that came from the movie The Fly, or Invasion of the Body Snatchers. I figure when it's done though, you'll be screaming, "It's alive!! It's aliiiiivvvvvvvvvveee!!" Woowee... |
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Extreme Southern, AZ United States | My only complaint is that my workin time is cuttin in to my ridin time. |
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Glendale, AZ United States | I'm coming from a BMW LT. I couldn't afford the GTL so here I am, hahaha. The Vision was marketed as being a "futuristic bike and ahead of it's time" by Victory, but there is nothing on the bike besides the dress that hasn't been done before. Coming from BMW more emphasis needs to be placed on the fit and finish and a belt drive? What is that all about. Really? Futuristic my ars. The bike screams for a shaft drive, fit and finish and then I would be happy. Anybody out in AZ that is up for some riding in this chilly, but nice weather lemme know. I will be happy to tag along. |
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Denver, CO | Vladezip... having experienced the driveshaft problems associated with some of the Light Trucks, I wonder why on earth would you think a shaft drive is needed on the Vision? |
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Glendale, AZ United States | I don't think it is a fair comparison to compare a drive shaft on a pickup truck and a motorcycle. Instead of a shaft drive on a pickup you would prefer a belt/chain drive instead? Drive shafts have been utilized in all motorized vehicles for the better part of one hundred years. I think we are discussing apples and oranges in my opinion. The Japanese and BMW have incorporated a shaft drive system on their "heavy weight" cruisers/tourers in addition to most of the sport tourers for at least a decade.
As far as I am concerned to each his own, but I had two bikes in the past with a shaft drive setup and I am sold. You get immediate throttle response on a shaft drive and it is virtually maintenance free with just an occasional gear oil change every 30K or so. If we follow the owners manual to the tee, the belt drive needs to be changed on the Vision every 35K miles or so not to mention checking "belt play", which does change based on whether it is hot/cold outside, including a belt inspection with every oil change, which I like to do. I haven't priced a belt change on the Vision, but I am sure it will be more expensive then just draining out the gear oil and replacing it. It sort of threw me for a loop in the sense we have an aggressive futuristic-styled motorcycle with a belt drive that is a throwback to what HD is doing. Let's face it, we all know HD is not on the cutting edge of development and engineering, which is not the appeal of a typical HD rider in the first place. Peace.
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Central Illinois | I loved my shafty 2007 Yamaha, 1981 Honda and 1965 BMW. I still own the Honda and the beemer. A shaft drive on a reasonably ridden bike is far more worry free than a belt or a chain. Chains are for bicycles and underpowered small bikes because they transfer power with almost no losses but they require frequent minor maintenance. A chain will stretch badly if you use it heavily so it is frequent adjustments and lubrication every 1000 miles or so. A belt needs replacement about as often as a shaft needs an oil change. Which do you prefer? I would love to see a shaft on a Vision but my belt ought to be good for another year or two while I wait for that design upgrade. |
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, WI | Vladezip - 2013-12-08 2:20 PM I don't think it is a fair comparison to compare a drive shaft on a pickup truck and a motorcycle. Instead of a shaft drive on a pickup you would prefer a belt/chain drive instead? Drive shafts have been utilized in all motorized vehicles for the better part of one hundred years. I think we are discussing apples and oranges in my opinion. The Japanese and BMW have incorporated a shaft drive system on their "heavy weight" cruisers/tourers in addition to most of the sport tourers for at least a decade. As far as I am concerned to each his own, but I had two bikes in the past with a shaft drive setup and I am sold. You get immediate throttle response on a shaft drive and it is virtually maintenance free with just an occasional gear oil change every 30K or so. If we follow the owners manual to the tee, the belt drive needs to be changed on the Vision every 35K miles or so not to mention checking "belt play", which does change based on whether it is hot/cold outside, including a belt inspection with every oil change, which I like to do. I haven't priced a belt change on the Vision, but I am sure it will be more expensive then just draining out the gear oil and replacing it. It sort of threw me for a loop in the sense we have an aggressive futuristic-styled motorcycle with a belt drive that is a throwback to what HD is doing. Let's face it, we all know HD is not on the cutting edge of development and engineering, which is not the appeal of a typical HD rider in the first place. Peace. You didn't know the Vision had a belt when you bought it? |
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| Vladezip - 2013-12-08 2:20 PM I don't think it is a fair comparison to compare a drive shaft on a pickup truck and a motorcycle. Instead of a shaft drive on a pickup you would prefer a belt/chain drive instead? Drive shafts have been utilized in all motorized vehicles for the better part of one hundred years. I think we are discussing apples and oranges in my opinion. The Japanese and BMW have incorporated a shaft drive system on their "heavy weight" cruisers/tourers in addition to most of the sport tourers for at least a decade. As far as I am concerned to each his own, but I had two bikes in the past with a shaft drive setup and I am sold. You get immediate throttle response on a shaft drive and it is virtually maintenance free with just an occasional gear oil change every 30K or so. If we follow the owners manual to the tee, the belt drive needs to be changed on the Vision every 35K miles or so not to mention checking "belt play", which does change based on whether it is hot/cold outside, including a belt inspection with every oil change, which I like to do. I haven't priced a belt change on the Vision, but I am sure it will be more expensive then just draining out the gear oil and replacing it. It sort of threw me for a loop in the sense we have an aggressive futuristic-styled motorcycle with a belt drive that is a throwback to what HD is doing. Let's face it, we all know HD is not on the cutting edge of development and engineering, which is not the appeal of a typical HD rider in the first place. Peace. sold my 99 road glide with 130 thousand on it and yes orignal belt. Belts are oly as good as the one that takes care of them |
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| Double Vision - 2013-11-18 11:39 AM I wish the saddle bags were somewhat bigger and more user friendly. Afer riding the Indian 111, I may need to get cams done on the Vision. Other than that, the Vision is a great machine! Indian has 76 horse couldn't keep up with a vision if it was going down hill |
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Manchester, CT | If you're looking for instant throttle response, the Vision can snap your head back by doing some perf upgrades...cams, adjustable air intake, upper filter, perf filter, timing gear, PCV, exhaust, dyno tuning and 1/4 throttle |
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Fort Myers, FL United States | I would like to have the engine and tranny be quieter so you could hear the Exhaust better, there is a lot of engine rattle and noise. I don't mean problematic "I got engine trouble" noise I mean the stock factory sound of the engine, you can also hear it in that thrush mod video when the gentleman is riding the bike up and down his street but when he pulls into the driveway the familiar engine sound is there, not pleasant at all. |
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Glendale, AZ United States | Street Eagle - 2013-12-08 7:56 PM
If you're looking for instant throttle response, the Vision can snap your head back by doing some perf upgrades...cams, adjustable air intake, upper filter, perf filter, timing gear, PCV, exhaust, dyno tuning and 1/4 throttle
Certainly to each his own, but I never understood why folks roll with expensive engine performance mods on the baggers/tourers. Speaking for myself, I know what I got with the Vision, which is a long-distance pack camel that does a fabulous job on those high mileage days. For me, it will always be a pack camel due to the sheer size/weight of the bike to boot. I'm sure a substantial amount of money went into the 106 engineering and development and I wouldn't want to jinx that by having a breakdown in the middle of nowhere for some added performance since the bulk of my riding is long-distance touring.
I don't think those performance upgrades will give you much of an advantage in the twisties when rolling with the sport tourer folks and I too come from a sports touring background. Rolling flat out on the straight away just isn't where it's at for me personally anymore. I just have to laugh out loud when I plant that Vision bohemuth in a curve and she will slice through it like butter each time and every time. I have yet to ride a heavy weight Vtwin tourer that handles as well in the twisties as the Vision. I don't plan on doing a Laguna Seca track day with the Vision any time soon. Cheers, Vlad. |
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Glendale, AZ United States | johnnyvision - 2013-12-08 4:47 PM
Vladezip - 2013-12-08 2:20 PM I don't think it is a fair comparison to compare a drive shaft on a pickup truck and a motorcycle. Instead of a shaft drive on a pickup you would prefer a belt/chain drive instead? Drive shafts have been utilized in all motorized vehicles for the better part of one hundred years. I think we are discussing apples and oranges in my opinion. The Japanese and BMW have incorporated a shaft drive system on their "heavy weight" cruisers/tourers in addition to most of the sport tourers for at least a decade. As far as I am concerned to each his own, but I had two bikes in the past with a shaft drive setup and I am sold. You get immediate throttle response on a shaft drive and it is virtually maintenance free with just an occasional gear oil change every 30K or so. If we follow the owners manual to the tee, the belt drive needs to be changed on the Vision every 35K miles or so not to mention checking "belt play", which does change based on whether it is hot/cold outside, including a belt inspection with every oil change, which I like to do. I haven't priced a belt change on the Vision, but I am sure it will be more expensive then just draining out the gear oil and replacing it. It sort of threw me for a loop in the sense we have an aggressive futuristic-styled motorcycle with a belt drive that is a throwback to what HD is doing. Let's face it, we all know HD is not on the cutting edge of development and engineering, which is not the appeal of a typical HD rider in the first place. Peace. sold my 99 road glide with 130 thousand on it and yes orignal belt. Belts are oly as good as the one that takes care of them
I think it just boils to the luck of the draw since beside adjusting the tension on a very rare occasion and with a tire change, there is no other care required required or recommended. Someone mentioned using an old tooth brush to clean in between the grooves periodically, which I will try. |
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Denver, CO | Vlad.
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New Orleans, La, | My biggest, and only, complaint with the Vision is the fit, finish, and attachment of the body work. Victory uses bolt attachment on nearly all body panel mounting points. Honda,and most other OEM manufacturers, use large plastic push plns and grommet mounting which has 2 real advantages. The vision and its' solid mounted engine transmits high frequency vibration throughout the vehicle. If Victory used the pin and grommet system the rubber grommets absorb alot of that vibration reducing vibrational stress on the attachment point andmaking for tool free removal/attachment. The larger plastic pins in conjunction with the grommets also allows for some minor flex at that the attachment possibly saving the part from damage that occurs with solid/bolt on panels. Finally if Ma Vic adopts that system I think it may solve many of the hideous fit problems. I would like to see these evolutionary changes/improvements instead of revolutionary changes. Ma Vic is your hear aid on high? |
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New Bohemia, VA | The point of my post was to say that I have no complaints on the Vision. While belt drive seems some how dated, it is simple and easy to maintain. We can go to town and laud the merits of a shaft drive, but I never did like mine on the Gold Wing, even though I had no issues with it. I think we have gone to overkill in adding "what people want" never realizing what they are realling asking. The more I ride my Vision, the more I like it, even though it's old, worn and rattles. It has a ride that exceeds my expectations, with all the power and agility that makes the rider one with the bike. Each of us find our fondness in bikes, I still go back to my early days of my 750 Custom. To me it was a near perfect bike that I could expect out of it. What I really wanted came to life in the Vision. Sleek profile, power, performance, comfort and a reasonable degree of weather protection. All tis makes it an ideal bike to be exposed, but not so much so that makes you say stop because of wind/weather battered fatigue. If I could afford it, I would probably own three bikes that would fit my desire for the journey, but having the Vision makes me more content that it fits the bill that no other bike can. The Vision has even proven it self on unimproved roads, which I never even gave that consideration. It is no doubt a versitile bike that is underappreciated.
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Glendale, AZ United States | varyder - 2013-12-10 7:45 AM
The point of my post was to say that I have no complaints on the Vision. While belt drive seems some how dated, it is simple and easy to maintain. We can go to town and laud the merits of a shaft drive, but I never did like mine on the Gold Wing, even though I had no issues with it. I think we have gone to overkill in adding "what people want" never realizing what they are realling asking. The more I ride my Vision, the more I like it, even though it's old, worn and rattles. It has a ride that exceeds my expectations, with all the power and agility that makes the rider one with the bike. Each of us find our fondness in bikes, I still go back to my early days of my 750 Custom. To me it was a near perfect bike that I could expect out of it. What I really wanted came to life in the Vision. Sleek profile, power, performance, comfort and a reasonable degree of weather protection. All tis makes it an ideal bike to be exposed, but not so much so that makes you say stop because of wind/weather battered fatigue. If I could afford it, I would probably own three bikes that would fit my desire for the journey, but having the Vision makes me more?content?that it fits the bill that no other bike can. The Vision has even proven it self on unimproved roads, which I never even gave that consideration. It is no doubt a versitile bike that is underappreciated.
I agree. From my standpoint, once you go with a tourer and all the goodies and utility that comes with the bike there is no turning back. I find it difficult to comprehend why anybody would remove the rear trunk. The trunk has been a life saver where I got a place to put my helmet and jacket without having to lug things when I get off the bike. It also keeps the spouse happy in the sense that I will ride 120 miles to pick up her favorite rubarb pie or to Sedona when the Sedona apples are in season. I never try to come back empty-handed to ensure that she gets something out of it. She used to be an avid passenger, but since she became pregnant and with the baby she is no longer interested, which I can understand. I'm not sure how the Vision stacks up against the Goldwing, which I would still consider to be the "benchmark to beat" with respect to long-distance touring. I have to admit the Goldwing is growing on me especially since I have gotten older minus the price tag even for a used one since I don't have those deep pockets to buy new and have always bought used not to mention I have issues spending 20K plus on a car much less a bike. Vlad. |
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Glendale, AZ United States | healeyblue - 2013-12-10 12:50 AM
Vlad.
Light Truck was slang term for BMW K1200LT. I put about 100k on one. Sorry for the confusion
I loved my LT. That K motor was absolutely fabulous and a tireless work horse to the point of being almost bullet proof if you do the routine service, which is expensive and almost overbearing for a shade tree mechanic. I have a buddy that has over 200K on his with no issues. I have always liked BMW and appreciate the development and engineering that goes into their bikes. The GTL is sick and twisted and I love that six banger BMW sound, but I don't have those deep pockets and have opted with the used Vision instead. The GS is something that has definitely grown on me over the year as well. I have another buddy that has an older GS with 170K and she just keeps on trucking. A third buddy has the R 1200RT that is a fabulous sports tourer as far as I'm concerned, but he hardly rides his. I always give him **** to make sure to plug in the battery tender to make sure the bike starts up so we can go riding and don't have to wait up him, hahaha. I love my Vision, but I can also appreciate and drool over everything else out there. Vlad. |
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Orlando, FL | I hate that the Vision is so fast, and handles so well. I get tired of my co-pilot complaining, saying things like ......."Slow down! I think I heard a sonic boom!" or, "Stop leaning so far, I think my shoulder hit the ground!" and the worst one, "Honey, it's windy back here and I don't think you can hear a thing I'm saying". Oh, wait, come to think of it, I like that one! LOL LOL LOL LOL |
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Sand Rock, AL United States | MaddMAx2u - 2013-12-11 1:42 PM
I hate that the Vision is so fast, and handles so well. I get tired of my co-pilot complaining, saying things like ......."Slow down! I think I heard a sonic boom!" or, "Stop leaning so far, I think my shoulder hit the ground!" and the worst one, "Honey, it's windy back here and I don't think you can hear a thing I'm saying". Oh, wait, come to think of it, I like that one! LOL LOL LOL LOL
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New Bohemia, VA | I took mine off the beginning of the summer, probably about the 5th or 6th time since owner the bike, and still haven't put it back on. I found the trunk has a lot of utility but the latch started to give me trouble where it didn't want to open. Since I've had it off this time, I really don't miss it and I really like the looks. People believe I got a new bike, but they may have been because I washed it. |
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Central Maryland | Put me in the "never have removed the trunk" club. I find it very handy for all of the reasons previously stated.
Is her baggage sexy, or what?
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Mechanicsville, VA United States | My Complaints are there is not enough time to ride, vacation time, seasonal weather(winter too f'ng cold/summer too f'ng hot), I'm getting too old, I complain about everything but I have no Complaints about my Vision.......best motorcycle ever! |
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Glendale, AZ United States | MaddMAx2u - 2013-12-11 1:42 PM
I hate that the Vision is so fast, and handles so well. I get tired of my co-pilot complaining, saying things like ......."Slow down! I think I heard a sonic boom!" or, "Stop leaning so far, I think my shoulder hit the ground!" and the worst one, "Honey, it's windy back here and I don't think you can hear a thing I'm saying". Oh, wait, come to think of it, I like that one! LOL LOL LOL LOL
Like it! I think your wife is just trying to be considerate. The wind is so loud you can't hear her? Hahaha. I think that would have worked for me for the first four to five years of marriage, but after that I would have gotten a slap on the helmet from her. "HEY Valentino Rossi" Why don't you slow the **** down before I walk home." Here is a great link with English subtitles if you haven't seen it of Riccardo Patrese (EX F1 driver) doing a lap with his trophy wife in a Honda Type R. I think you all can appreciate this. Freaking Hilarious. Hahahaha!
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Glendale, AZ United States | MaddMAx2u - 2013-12-11 1:42 PM
I hate that the Vision is so fast, and handles so well. I get tired of my co-pilot complaining, saying things like ......."Slow down! I think I heard a sonic boom!" or, "Stop leaning so far, I think my shoulder hit the ground!" and the worst one, "Honey, it's windy back here and I don't think you can hear a thing I'm saying". Oh, wait, come to think of it, I like that one! LOL LOL LOL LOL
Like it! I think your wife is just trying to be considerate. The wind is so loud you can't hear her? Hahaha. I think that would have worked for me for the first four to five years of marriage, but after that I would have gotten a slap on the helmet from her. "HEY Valentino Rossi" Why don't you slow the **** down before I walk home." Here is a great link with English subtitles if you haven't seen it of Riccardo Patrese (EX F1 driver) doing a lap with his trophy wife in a Honda Type R. I think you all can appreciate this. Freaking Hilarious. Hahahaha!
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Sand Rock, AL United States | varyder - 2013-12-12 11:08 AM
I took mine off the beginning of the summer, probably about the 5th or 6th time since owner the bike, and still haven't put it back on. I found the trunk has a lot of utility but the latch started to give me trouble where it didn't want to open. Since I've had it off this time, I really don't miss it and I really like the looks. People believe I got a new bike, but they may have been because I washed it.
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Sand Rock, AL United States | diamonbird - 2013-12-12 4:31 PM
My Complaints are there is not enough time to ride, vacation time, seasonal weather(winter too f'ng cold/summer too f'ng hot), I'm getting too old, I complain about everything but I have no Complaints about my Vision.......best motorcycle ever!
My complaint is that I can't ride as much as I want also! It's never too hot or too cold , just have to stop riding to do stuff like go to work or sleep and we can't just ride off and leave the kids at home |
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ROSEVILLE, CA United States | My only complaint is Loud Transmission and puts off alot of heat . Not to mention very little saddlebag space but the Looks overcome those things ' ) |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Well, my ONLY complaint is I AM GETTING OLD. After 58 years of biking - and 23 bikes - I can't ride as much as I want to. My 8+ years on the SPCSHP have been the best biking of my life. But every ride now is $50 - $200 just for gas - and and old fart on pension like me - well, that HURTS. I keep looking at spots on my lawn where the VV would be a nice Lawn Ornament. The Co-Pilot disagrees with me putting it in the living room - and she still WANTS to ride. Anyone out there want to share your winning LOTTO ticket with me??? I CAN be a 'nice' person (or so I have been told) ....
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Pittsburgh, PA | funny thing is.. doesnt matter what the complaints are... Victory doesnt Care.. its not like what we say will change anything or they are listening thinking.. wow we didnt think of that ... so lets fix it.. hell its the same tired ass old radio for almost 10 years !! same a few baby step improvements.. but with 2017 model motorcycles out... and indian and HD and bmw etc having really nice radios... ours is like something from a 1990 toyota or what not... no bluetooth.. crap speakers, lame interface.. i changed all that on mine... but still.. to come the same way it was made a decade ago with no improvements.. thats pretty freaking lazy . at times as the years go by.. i feel the vision is almost setup to fail... where as the XC is the one they focus on the most.. I use my radio as a preamp... my samsung s7 as the tune and multi-media system, and my alpine amp to give me some power.. then my kicker 6.5 to allow better sound to come through.. and it all works perfectly.. but you shouldnt have to do that.. not if you want to compete in a very competitive 21st century touring market... |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Arkainzeye - 2016-09-24 6:56 PM funny thing is.. doesnt matter what the complaints are... Victory doesnt Care.. its not like what we say will change anything or they are listening thinking.. wow we didnt think of that ... so lets fix it.. hell its the same tired ass old radio for almost 10 years !! same a few baby step improvements.. but with 2017 model motorcycles out... and indian and HD and bmw etc having really nice radios... ours is like something from a 1990 toyota or what not... no bluetooth.. crap speakers, lame interface.. i changed all that on mine... but still.. to come the same way it was made a decade ago with no improvements.. thats pretty freaking lazy . at times as the years go by.. i feel the vision is almost setup to fail... where as the XC is the one they focus on the most.. I use my radio as a preamp... my samsung s7 as the tune and multi-media system, and my alpine amp to give me some power.. then my kicker 6.5 to allow better sound to come through.. and it all works perfectly.. but you shouldnt have to do that.. not if you want to compete in a very competitive 21st century touring market... So - ONE big beef about the SOUND SYSTEM???? I thought we wuz talking about MOTORCYCLES ??? The VISION is still miles ahead of any of the competition in presenting the MOST BEAUTIFUL BIKE ever designed. Mine still draws crowds everywhere/every time I stop - like no other bike ever !!! And Big Deal - I fixed my sound system 7 years ago - and NO ONE except me knows ... |
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New Bohemia, VA | I know now, Don. Speaking of sound system, mines in the pits, no digital display, ipod fried, and the reception is poor and the buttons don't much anymore. But you know what? I don't care, I still have no complaints about the bike, it still rides like a dream ship. Unfortunately a few life changes have taken me away from ride a lot. And now with my left hand hating the cold weather I'll probably have to sit winter out. I don't know what shape it will be in if it sits too much. |
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Sand Rock, AL United States | Arkainzeye - 2016-09-24 8:56 PM
funny thing is.. doesnt matter what the complaints are... Victory doesnt Care.. its not like what we say will change anything or they are listening thinking.. wow we didnt think of that ... so lets fix it.. hell its the same tired ass old radio for almost 10 years !! same a few baby step improvements.. but with 2017 model motorcycles out... and indian and HD and bmw etc having really nice radios... ours is like something from a 1990 toyota or what not... no bluetooth.. crap speakers, lame interface.. i changed all that on mine... but still.. to come the same way it was made a decade ago with no improvements.. thats pretty freaking lazy . at times as the years go by.. i feel the vision is almost setup to fail... where as the XC is the one they focus on the most.. I use my radio as a preamp... my samsung s7 as the tune and multi-media system, and my alpine amp to give me some power.. then my kicker 6.5 to allow better sound to come through.. and it all works perfectly.. but you shouldnt have to do that.. not if you want to compete in a very competitive 21st century touring market...
My radio on my 08 works ok. The previous owner installed Sirius/XM radio on it, so i never have to worry about reception. He took advantage of limited time offer LIFETIME SUBSCRIPTION which Sirius no longer offers. So me and the wife have crystal clear (unless we go into a tunnel or overpass) 70's or 80's or the Elvis channel or The Message contemporary Christian tunes everywhere we go until me or the bike dies.
We sing along. We both enjoy singing. The radio has had no upgrades but I can hear it and my wife can hear it so what's to upgrade? it doesn't set off any car alarms. I guess that's what the Magnum is for. |
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| I've decided that my Vision is about as close to perfect of a bike as I've ever owned. It fits me like no other, the seat almost handles my weight and I love the looks BUT...as much as I like the body work on it...the weather protection from the lower fairing for instance, the windshield is almost useless in the rain. It's simply too far away from the rider to be as effective as it could be. This is the fourth bike I've owned with a full fairing and it's by far my favorite ride, but it'd be nice if there was a way I could get that windshield 3 feet closer so it'd do some good in the rain...
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Sand Rock, AL United States | I agree on the first part, the Vision is about as close to perfect as can be but I have to disagree on the rain protection. I raise mine and stay above 65 mph and it creates "the bubble" . I can stay relatively dry as long as I'm moving. The wife doesn't get the full benefit of "the bubble" . She gets a little resentful with I go on and on about it LOL! The bubble lives above 65. It will collapse below that. |
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| I've moved the shield up enough to get the best effects from "the bubble" but then you have to look through the windshield for it to work and you're pretty much like someone in a car by then...you need wipers in order to see. I installed a Cee Baileys shield that's 9 inches taller (total of 22 1/2 inches tall) and a couple inches wider than stock because the shield that was on the bike topped out with the edge in my line of sight. Both my beemers and the Concours I rode...( I lived on the road full time for 8 years living in a pop-up I pulled with the bikes), the top of the shield was within a foot of me...roughly...and my line-of-sight was approximately 2 inches over the top. Even in a heavy downpour I had great visibility because I was inside the "bubble". The Vision shield is simply too far away from the rider to be as effective and I suspect it's because I'm riding close to the back end of the bubble where it collapses. When I told people who've never ridden bikes that I thought I had BETTER visibility on my bike than I did in a car, it was because the bubble kept the rain off me.
Just not so with my Vision...but it's still my favorite bike so far. |
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Sand Rock, AL United States | This S100 detail and wax really helped with looking through the shield in rain. it almost has a 'rain-X" factor to it. It's only $9.99 at my local shop and it works great on the whole bike, Windshields, paint and chrome. When the shield is cleaned with this, rain will blow off the shield at speed. It's pretty amazing in my opinion.
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| I've always been impressed with Rain-X but was disappointed it wasn't good for our bike windshield. If this stuff works I'll give it a try...thanks. |
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