ridig in the cold
Banjodan
Posted 2013-10-24 9:13 PM (#147088)
Subject: ridig in the cold


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is it just me? when riding in the cold, my cold spot is my back. I raise and lower the windshield to no avail... I have the stock windshield...17" I think. would a taller shield help this or maybe a flip? any suggestions from you northerners........I know mid to upper 30's is like springtime to you...cold for me...
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XRsteve
Posted 2013-10-24 10:37 PM (#147089 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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Georgia, west of Atlanta
Get some freezeout clothing from Cycle Gear, you'll never have a cold back again. Or anywhere else for that matter............
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Street Eagle
Posted 2013-10-24 11:28 PM (#147090 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


Iron Butt

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Manchester, CT
me too...the center of my lower back gets chilled. tomorrow will be a good teat for my freeze out gear here in the northeast. temps in the morning will be in the 30s. with this gear I've ridden in temps ranging in the 40s and it has kept my back warm. I'll be on the bike for about 3 + hours to and from MOM South to test drive the Indians.

btw...I just ordered a warm and safe jacket liner with dual remote controller. I will be riding all winter unless there is snow, ice or too much salt on the roads.
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The_Visionary
Posted 2013-10-25 5:11 AM (#147101 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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lakes region, NH
I put on a sheeps wool type vest on over my leather jacket. NP till it gets to about 30*
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viclvr
Posted 2013-10-25 7:20 AM (#147103 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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Princeton, MN
My wife and I and a friend Vision pilot rode to Arkansas from Minnesota last week... about 2500 miles in 5 days other than one day in the high 60s we rode in temps that ranged from the high 20s to an avg of about 35....rain all but the one day in the 60s.. last Saturday made just over 700 miles with avg temp low 30s all the way. Ride hard or stay home Nothing like the Vision! Had to chuckle when we got just over the MN line we passed to Harley tractors pulling trailers and 2 up... they looked miserable... they were shaking their heads as we blew by them pulling camper trailers behind our Visions. While we were having snacks at a gas station up the road the guy came over and said man you guys are haulin ass! Life is good..... on a VISION
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adirondacks
Posted 2013-10-25 7:39 AM (#147104 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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Troy, NY
Get a neck wrap - that will help. Heat loss is from back of neck which is also your body's thermometer.
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Brian G
Posted 2013-10-25 7:43 AM (#147106 - in reply to #147104)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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adirondacks - 2013-10-25 7:39 AM

Get a neck wrap - that will help. Heat loss is from back of neck which is also your body's thermometer.


And a Gerbing jacket, that will help with riding in cold temps.
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sonicbluerider
Posted 2013-10-25 8:18 AM (#147108 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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Yep a nice neck cover. I use mine riding in cold or as a rain guard and then in winter. When skiing
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XRsteve
Posted 2013-10-25 8:19 AM (#147109 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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Georgia, west of Atlanta
The Freezeout gear is good down to about 30F. If you really want to stay warm below that I suggest heated clothing, there are lots of brands to choose from these days, just make sure it has a heat controller not just and on/off switch........
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luterdan
Posted 2013-10-25 8:29 AM (#147110 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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Marietta, GA
the only problem i have is that i am 6'6" and 350 lbs, and no one makes big A$$ motorcycle clothing, let alone heated gear. 2XLT is about he best i have found. I have to dress in layers and/or go to custom shops to find stuff that fits me.
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sburkett199
Posted 2013-10-25 11:24 AM (#147117 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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Ft Worth Texas
It's the negative pressure that the bike produces, I have a 17 inch flip screen from JRock (3 inches wider as well) and it doesn't help. I can vouch for the Firstgear warm and safe heated liner. (2 XL TALL) is the largest size they make, the liner should fit snug to work properly. As for the best neck gaitor, look for one that is thick fleece, hangs down in the front to tuck in your jacket but also does the same in the back, and you only pull it up to say your chin or under your nose. The ones that go under your helmet get annoying and make your head itch under your helmet. Sorry for no pics, I don't even remember the name. It comes down in the back by your shoulder blades, should stop the cold for you.
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TimS
Posted 2013-10-25 12:23 PM (#147120 - in reply to #147110)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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Gerbing has 3XL-Long.  I don't know if that will fit you or not.

http://gerbing.com/collection/heated-jacket-liner.html

They used to have a lot more size combinations by selecting individual torso and arm lengths.  This was really nice because you could make sure your arm lengths were long enough for the riding position without having too large/small of a torso size.  They have since gone to S-M-L (Normal/Long) sizing scheme.

The liners also have extra high zippered necks to eliminate the need for a separate neck gator.  One less thing to remember to put on/take off/store. 

You still may want something for your face depending on your helmet of choice.

My wife and I have used our Gerbing gear for 5 years now and still like it.  We have the heated jacket liners and heated gloves.

HTH,

Tim

 



Edited by TimS 2013-10-25 12:48 PM
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Crawford
Posted 2013-10-25 12:40 PM (#147121 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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Regina Saskatchewan Canada
When I ride alone in cold weather I also have a spot on my back that gets cold. I believe if I was to strap something to the back seat would stop the air that swirls around my back and makes it cold. The other option is to make sure you have a passenger along for the ride.
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atvtinker
Posted 2013-10-25 12:56 PM (#147122 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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Grand Cane, LA
Luterdan, have you looked at TourMaster clothing? They have heated jacket liners up to 4XL.

Edited by atvtinker 2013-10-25 12:57 PM
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luterdan
Posted 2013-10-25 1:07 PM (#147124 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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Marietta, GA
Thanks for the ideas. I will check them out. But, I just took the easy route, i moved from Boston to Georgia where winters are warmer (supposedly).
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BrandonM7
Posted 2013-10-25 3:23 PM (#147130 - in reply to #147124)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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LaGrange, GA
luterdan - 2013-10-25 2:07 PM

Thanks for the ideas. I will check them out. But, I just took the easy route, i moved from Boston to Georgia where winters are warmer (supposedly).


Excellent idea. I ride year round - just spread out the upper and lower deflectors, windshield up, heated seat and grips on. Good to go.
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varyder
Posted 2013-10-25 4:56 PM (#147135 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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New Bohemia, VA
This year may be the year for a heated vest...
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Benchmark
Posted 2013-10-25 5:14 PM (#147137 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: RE: ridig in the cold


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Northern Illinois
I haven't felt any cold on my back, I'm guessing for 2 reasons- I have the driver backrest, and my Tourmaster jacket has an armor panel that covers the center of my back.
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Banjodan
Posted 2013-10-25 7:46 PM (#147144 - in reply to #147117)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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thanks sburkett...that's an answr I was looking for. no need to waste $ on a diff. windshield if it won.t help.
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Oldman47
Posted 2013-10-25 7:56 PM (#147147 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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Back of my neck, not my back, gets cold and I sometimes feel it lower as well but it is air coming into the back of my neck opening. Just wear a Snoopy / Red Baron scarf around your neck to cover the space between your jacket and your helmet and that chill goes away fast.
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Monkeyman
Posted 2013-10-25 10:59 PM (#147152 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


Iron Butt

Posts: 1066
Peru, IN
I started out this morning in temps about as cold as I normally ride in (upper 20s/lower 30s). I wore: jeans, chaps, insulated jump boots, t shirt, hoodie, leather jacket, leather vest, thin neck gaither, helmet (3/4 with face shield) and gauntlet gloves. I had the grips on low and the seat turned OFF. Uppers and lowers turned all the way out. Windscreen about 1/2 way up. I was very comfortable, bordering on too warm.

The only real problems I have are: 1) I need more facial coverage. (I plan on buying a Nolan N 104 if/when I ever get enough money.) 2) My jacket isn't meant for riding so the sleeves are a little short. The gauntlet gloves are cheap so they're slick and with my regular gloves, I get about a 1" gap between the glove and jacket. Just enough to let some cold air in. Not sure what to do about that without buying new gloves. (No $$ for that this year.)
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varyder
Posted 2013-10-26 11:37 AM (#147169 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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New Bohemia, VA
I've gone to growing a full beard in the winter, works well with the neck gator. In the winter time I'll wear long-according to the weather. Extreme and long distance riding I'll pull over a sweatshirt, but that gets bulking, but I stay warmer. I thought of going with the heat vest to keep the blood warm. If it's really cold and I'm going a long distance, I'll use boot and glove warmers that the hunter will use. As far as the "back breeze" mentioned by the op, that's just want happens, but dressing for the occasion it will go unnoticed to me.
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NoMoHD
Posted 2013-10-27 4:35 PM (#147204 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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Posts: 28
Carrollton, TX
I've noticed that as my jacket has shrunk, in the waist area, the air can't make it that far.
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jimtom
Posted 2013-10-28 6:38 AM (#148230 - in reply to #147089)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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Sand Rock, AL United States
XRsteve - 2013-10-24 9:37 PM

Get some freezeout clothing from Cycle Gear, you'll never have a cold back again. Or anywhere else for that matter............


I was curious about that stuff, thanks. The only place I feel cold air is that back of my neck on the Vision, none of my front is bothered by cold riding.
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jimtom
Posted 2013-10-28 6:50 AM (#148231 - in reply to #147135)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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varyder - 2013-10-25 3:56 PM

This year may be the year for a heated vest...


I rode with heated vest for years. Then I bought a sedici (cheaper than gerbings and seems quality) heated jacket liner. I had no idea the addition of heated sleeves would make such an impact! As your friend , I have to suggest that you get the heated jacket liner as opposed to the vest. They sell sedici at cyclegear
http://www.cyclegear.com/CycleGear/Street/Jackets/Heated/brand/SEDI...
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trkr3529
Posted 2013-10-31 12:23 AM (#148350 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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I bought the tourmaster synergy heated vest & chaps for my wife, I use them more than she does and love it, they also go up to 4xl but you want it to fit snug against your body
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TimS
Posted 2013-10-31 12:42 PM (#148362 - in reply to #147120)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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Another tip for cold weather riding. 

Get some flannel/fleece with optional polartech/thinsulate lined jeans.  They are made in different weights for more or less insulation.  The flannel lined jeans are usually the lightest.  You can always add long johns under them and/or chaps over them.

 

There are a few suppliers including Wrangler, Cabela's  and Carhartt.

HTH

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Allaire5
Posted 2013-11-02 5:18 AM (#148436 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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If you dont want to wear heated clothing think about Carhart. I have the extreme Artic biberalls and a carhart Jacket. I have winter boots rated to 40 below and I also use mittens instead of gloves. The mittens can be a little clunky but they are so much warmer than gloves. I also use a good ski mask. I was out last winter in 4 degrees and it was not too bad.
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TimS
Posted 2013-11-02 12:48 PM (#148439 - in reply to #148436)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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.... I have the extreme Artic biberalls ...

 

How are the bibs and the exhaust pipes?  Do the legs melt or are they of a heat resistant material ???

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crw
Posted 2013-11-02 6:11 PM (#148445 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 40
Griswold, CT
I have no problem with the cold, I worked side all my life.
Dampness get to my back (old injury) Just dress worm ( dress in layers)
Will ride all winter, weather and roads permitting.
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loren2
Posted 2013-11-03 10:54 PM (#148485 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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Bullhead City, AZ

just get a copilot to wrap their arms around instead of using the unheated handles
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baadawg
Posted 2013-11-03 11:26 PM (#148487 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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Chattanooga, TN
I tried a friends neoprene face mask yesterday and was amazed at how warm it kept my face. She said she got it for about $8 and it has the skeleton face on it. My daughter said it was pretty sinister looking but I could care less about looks. Wearing a half helmet and the face mask was much warmer than using a full face without the mask.

Edited by baadawg 2013-11-03 11:28 PM
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Monkeyman
Posted 2013-11-04 10:00 AM (#148496 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


Iron Butt

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Peru, IN
The only issue with the neoprene face masks is eyeglass fogging. I can't see without glasses and every facemask I've used has fogged up my glasses every time I exhale. I have a cloth neck gaiter that I use with my 3/4 helmet (with face shield). I keep it low enough to just cover my chin. Works well in the 30s and 40s. Any colder than that and my face still gets cold.
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varyder
Posted 2013-11-04 11:13 AM (#148501 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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New Bohemia, VA
Beard and bandanna...
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crw
Posted 2013-11-04 2:14 PM (#148507 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 40
Griswold, CT
Went to breakfast this morning (28 deg )
Left at 8:00 back at 12:30
Sunny and no wind
One day closer to spring
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Monkeyman
Posted 2013-11-04 3:07 PM (#148510 - in reply to #148501)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


Iron Butt

Posts: 1066
Peru, IN

varyder - 2013-11-04 12:13 PM Beard and bandanna...   

If my job allowed me to grow more than a very short goatee, I would.  Sometimes, it's just a doorag but most of the time I need a helmet just to keep the breeze out of my eyes.  Insurance lets me get new glasses in March.  I think I'll get some gasketed glasses this time.

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jimtom
Posted 2013-11-04 3:12 PM (#148511 - in reply to #148510)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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Sand Rock, AL United States
http://riderseye.com/
I have these prescription and wear them not just for riding but full time glasses. Transition so they aren't dark at night.
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Monkeyman
Posted 2013-11-04 3:51 PM (#148512 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


Iron Butt

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Peru, IN
I'll have to look into those. I'm also considering something from 7eye. I'm planning on Transition (or Transition XTRA) lenses as I'll use them for regular glasses, too.
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muntehincton
Posted 2013-11-08 7:17 AM (#148685 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: RE: ridig in the cold


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Banjodan - 2013-10-24 9:13 PM

is it just me? when riding in the cold, my cold spot is my back. I raise and lower the windshield to no avail... I have the stock windshield...17" I think. would a taller shield help this or maybe a flip? any suggestions from you northerners........I know mid to upper 30's is like springtime to you...cold for me...


I'll suggest you to go for either cycle gear or warm clothes that provide some heat!!
And if you're really welling to wear such clothes then please prefer some branded ones, I know it would cost you a bit more but its better to invest a bit today rather than to cry for tomorrow.

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rebelce
Posted 2013-11-08 7:54 AM (#148686 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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I've been using Safe and Warm (Firstgear) for a couple of years now. Makes all the difference in the world. Being a CA boy, winters weren't a problem. New England has instilled a healthy respect for cold. Last weekend I rode up to Amherst NH (25 that morning) without discomfort. Texas Jeans are a good source for riding pants, flannel lined, heavy denim, affordable and American made.
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rdbudd
Posted 2013-11-08 11:13 AM (#148695 - in reply to #148686)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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rebelce - 2013-11-08 7:54 AM

I've been using Safe and Warm (Firstgear) for a couple of years now. Makes all the difference in the world.


I've been using Safe-N-Warm (FirstGear) heated jacket and pants liners for about 5 years now. Nary a problem with them. The heated collar is sure nice!!

Ronnie
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Banjodan
Posted 2013-11-08 7:10 PM (#148711 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


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has anyone noticed a difference with cold air on the back of your neck, is it the same with and without the trunk?
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Monkeyman
Posted 2013-11-08 7:15 PM (#148712 - in reply to #147088)
Subject: Re: ridig in the cold


Iron Butt

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Peru, IN
It's the same either way. I had the trunk on last winter and off this winter. I still feel the cold air on the back of my neck and back. Try lowering your windscreen a bit (seriously).
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