Shock Rod
varyder
Posted 2013-10-06 3:13 PM (#146290)
Subject: Shock Rod


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New Bohemia, VA

Made it home. 

A couple of words.  A few months back I discovered my pushrod bushing was shot so I did a temporary fix using a brass pipe.  Now, I thought all was well and have put many miles on, but this was the second time riding two-up.  But I put the blame on the fact that I broke a cardinal rule of frame and suspension parts and that is not to heat them.  That I did with the pushrod, and not only that did some hammering as well.  The pushrod not only broke, but where the bushing went is busted as well.  We had just arrived into Williamsburg when I heard and felt like something snapped, but nothing really changed.  We were sitting at our final light and I even bounced up and down a few times and all felt fine.  When the light turned green, then the snap and drop came, BAM.  Since I was at where we were going, I check the bike out good and saw what had happened, but nothing else was wrong except the inside saddle bags are busted from the axle bolts.  The tire isn't rubbing, but the belt is running an edge against something, but not enough to really do any damage.  All went well on the way home, the ride was a little rough, know where every bump is on Rt 5 now.  Anyone want to share anything, but I will be riding it solo until I get the assembly replaced, something I should have done a long time ago.





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XRsteve
Posted 2013-10-06 4:15 PM (#146293 - in reply to #146290)
Subject: Re: Shock Rod


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Thanks for sharing, Guess we'll all have to monitor that. Not many will ever have as many miles on their bikes as you. Never the less it's something to think about...........
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varyder
Posted 2013-10-06 4:22 PM (#146295 - in reply to #146290)
Subject: Re: Shock Rod


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It wasn't the miles per se that cause it to go, I believe it was the heating and hammering that did it in. Non-the-less, when the bushing is shot, not much else but to change the assembly anyways.
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Oldman47
Posted 2013-10-06 4:29 PM (#146297 - in reply to #146290)
Subject: Re: Shock Rod


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Heat it and beat it on a Vision? Sacrilege.
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varyder
Posted 2013-10-06 4:48 PM (#146301 - in reply to #146290)
Subject: Re: Shock Rod


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But I'm still riding. I'm changing the name from the Bentley to The Beast!
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johnnyvision
Posted 2013-10-06 7:19 PM (#146310 - in reply to #146290)
Subject: Re: Shock Rod


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what did you heat up? Why?

do love the low rider look
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varyder
Posted 2013-10-06 9:09 PM (#146313 - in reply to #146310)
Subject: Re: Shock Rod


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It was the upper pivot of the pushrod. The bushing was worn so I used a brass sleeve and I heated up the end to get a tight fit. I do wish there was a way to get it this low, but then again, I've dragged the pipes a time or two.
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2013-10-06 10:14 PM (#146326 - in reply to #146290)
Subject: Re: Shock Rod


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Now that is a LOW RIDER !!!
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sarvbill
Posted 2013-10-07 6:19 AM (#146337 - in reply to #146290)
Subject: RE: Shock Rod


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Chesterfield, VA

Damn Chris you give a whole new meaning to lowering the rear.  I lowered mine 2 inches, but you've got yours slammed now.  I've got the original fixed link that I replaced when I lowered mine (only about 12,000 miles on the link) that you are welcome to if you want to replace that when re-doing your suspension.

Are you going to replace the saddle bag inners, or just try to repair them? 

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varyder
Posted 2013-10-07 6:24 AM (#146338 - in reply to #146290)
Subject: Re: Shock Rod


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Bill, you're a blessing. That will work. I'll probably just fiber glass fix them.
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sarvbill
Posted 2013-10-07 8:44 AM (#146345 - in reply to #146290)
Subject: RE: Shock Rod


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Chris, wasn't sure whether you were referring to the shock link or the fixed link.  If it's the fixed link that is broken, give me a call and we can make arrangements for you to pick up my original link.
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atvtinker
Posted 2013-10-07 3:29 PM (#146354 - in reply to #146290)
Subject: Re: Shock Rod


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Grand Cane, LA
I believe the second bang was your airbag in the shock giving out. Wouldn't surprise me if you had to replace that too. I don't believe I would be riding it though, with the suspension that far up, your belt is going to be too tight. If you don't get Bill's link, I"ll let you have the adjustable one I have for the price of shipping, it's just sitting in my shop anyway.

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johnnyvision
Posted 2013-10-07 6:41 PM (#146362 - in reply to #146313)
Subject: Re: Shock Rod


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varyder - 2013-10-06 9:09 PM It was the upper pivot of the pushrod. The bushing was worn so I used a brass sleeve and I heated up the end to get a tight fit. I do wish there was a way to get it this low, but then again, I've dragged the pipes a time or two.

 

Next time take the brass bushing or even bronz bushing put in freazer over night. It will shrink and slid right in

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varyder
Posted 2013-10-09 8:04 AM (#146418 - in reply to #146362)
Subject: Re: Shock Rod


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johnnyvision - 2013-10-07 7:41 PM

varyder - 2013-10-06 9:09 PM It was the upper pivot of the pushrod. The bushing was worn so I used a brass sleeve and I heated up the end to get a tight fit. I do wish there was a way to get it this low, but then again, I've dragged the pipes a time or two.

 

Next time take the brass bushing or even bronz bushing put in freazer over night. It will shrink and slid right in

No, get the right part. I know the trick but at the time I didn't have overnight. I now have a new push link, thanks to a fellow Vision rider and friend, it rides like new.  The real failure came where the bushing had worn through, an the steel pivot bearing wore into the rod, putting too much stress on the steel left on the rod.  BAM!! Riding two-up 40 miles away from home.  The bags are busted, the pulley also touches the bag and wears a groove in it, along with the swing arm busting the bags.  Looking at doing some fiber glass or other sealing method. 

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XRsteve
Posted 2013-10-09 8:28 AM (#146419 - in reply to #146290)
Subject: Re: Shock Rod


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Varyder, can you post pictures of the broken parts when you take them off ?? I'm sure I'm not the only one interested in seeing them. Thanks...............steve
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varyder
Posted 2013-10-09 9:58 AM (#146422 - in reply to #146290)
Subject: Re: Shock Rod


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I'll take a good pic tonight.
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varyder
Posted 2013-10-11 7:17 AM (#146508 - in reply to #146419)
Subject: Re: Shock Rod


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XRsteve - 2013-10-09 9:28 AM Varyder, can you post pictures of the broken parts when you take them off ?? I'm sure I'm not the only one interested in seeing them. Thanks...............steve



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JSP
Posted 2013-10-11 10:50 AM (#146512 - in reply to #146290)
Subject: Re: Shock Rod


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on the edge of Los Angeles
Broke the weld looks like!

This link is probably made with mild steel and the end is mig welded to it.

Making one of these out of Chrome moly and using a replaceable Heim end would be trick for sure. In all actuality you could possibly weld a tube end to the shaft and do this very thing. I am sure using a heim would allow for smoother operation of the suspension too.

I replaced my shock at 90k or so and inspected all of these parts closely.Repacked the needle bearing on the rocker assembly and now its good to go.

VARYDER, if you replace he broken part with a new one send me the broken stuff so I can possibly fab something up.
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varyder
Posted 2013-10-11 11:46 AM (#146516 - in reply to #146290)
Subject: Re: Shock Rod


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Well, yes, it did break the weld, however there was more (or less) to it. The sleeve around the wore out and the steel bearing was wearing into the rod. I put a brass sleeve in there for a temporary measure, but that wore through to and wore into the already worn rod. Riding two up, put enough stress on it to cause it to break.
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