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Akron Ohio area |
300 miles into my spring trip my front fender broke loose and jammed in the bottom part of my vision's faring making steering impossible. One of the bolts that holds the black plastic lower fender to the struts had come out. I recommend that this be part of your yearly maintenance check. Not being able to steer is a bummer. |
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Iron Butt
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Broken Arrow, OK | glad it didn't cause something worse. Thanks for the heads up. Too many of these happening |
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Tourer
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Vineland, NJ United States | thanks! I checked mine and they were both loose. It was a bitch to get in their with an allen wrench. I probably should add some loctite to it. |
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Central Maryland | Chit... I better check mine tomorrow morning... when does this crap ever end? All bikes have idiosyncrasies but for Keerists Sake...! Your fender disassembling and jamming up the front end? WTF? |
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, IA | Wonder if he wrote it up on the national safety website . Not the first one to experience this
Edited by sonicbluerider 2013-05-27 4:54 PM
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Jasper, MO | sonicbluerider - 2013-05-27 4:53 PM
Wonder if he wrote it up on the national safety website . Not the first one to experience this
That's true. It's a common Goldwing problem too.
Nothing was ever done about that either.
Ronnie |
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Iron Butt
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Peru, IN | All the more reason to invest in a one piece aftermarket fender. Vic should still do something about this although I'm not sure what they could do. |
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Cruiser
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Mechanicsville, VA United States | I checked mine about 4 months ago and it was tight and looked ok but I just couldn't resist taking a closer look so I removed it and found it was broke
, I ordered a new one and now I'm thinking I might try and fix the broken one and keep it until the new one breaks. |
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New Bohemia, VA | I fixed mine with some steel strapping about 4 years ago and it's still holding up fine. That plastic is brittle, plus I've got my mudflap there too, it ain't coming off. |
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Tourer
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Akron Ohio area | I'm still on my trip, in Phoenix AZ right now, and will follow up on this (National safety websight) when I get back to Akron Ohio.
I've got over 50,000 miles on Scream and should have checked these 2 screws long ago for tightness.
My bad.
V-Twins vibrate and we should anticipate things working their way loose over time.
The loss of steering is why I posted.
Adding a mud flap wouldn't stop the problem of the screws coming loose, but would almost certainly keep things from being jammed up causing loss of steering.
Heading to New Orlean's next. |
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Cruiser
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Nor Cali | Unfortunately Big Joe's one piece Vision fender is so freakin' expensive. A XR/XC front fender will work with a easy mod...and it's bout half the price. |
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Iron Butt
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Peru, IN | I've seen the X bike fender write up but I can't remember where. You got a link to it, Redd? |
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Visionary
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| mine was broken at the mounting hole. 3 bolts were tight one was loose. Bought plastic weld from auto store fixed the crack and put over size flat wash on inside no more problem.
I'm not the first to do this and you will not be the last to fix yours. |
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Cruiser
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Nor Cali | Monkeyman - 2013-05-28 4:06 PM I've seen the X bike fender write up but I can't remember where. You got a link to it, Redd? Saw it on the other side at least a year ago. Don't remember the thread. I put a XC/XR front fender on my King Vegas...SRVT charged me right around $250 for it.
Edited by Redd 2013-05-28 7:37 PM
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Iron Butt
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Peru, IN | I've searched and searched and can't find it anywhere. It looked pretty cool from what I can remember and looked like a fairly easy swap. It's gonna bug me until I find it. |
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Cruiser
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| Loose front fender folks;
I'm still trying to figure out what bolts/nuts come loose to cause the fender to come off? The only four I see are where the fender attaches to the fork tubes. Pictures? Thanks! (2008 Vision)
Denny Pink
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Cruiser
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Mechanicsville, VA United States | Look here:
http://www.donwoodvictory.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?section=1116...
The two bolts(one on each side) at the rear of the shock tube, that's where it breaks at.
Edited by diamonbird 2013-05-29 5:26 AM
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Tourer
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Vineland, NJ United States | immediately to the rear of those four bolts, r two more bolts that hold plastic fender on. they go in opposite wy so the heads are inside the fender |
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Cruiser
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| Thank you - Thank you - Thank you!
I found em, and never knew those bolts were in there. Mine were about a quarter turn loose after 28,000 miles. What did we ever do before the "help forum's?"
Denny Pink |
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Tourer
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New Orleans, La, | I have had (2) two stock fenders fail as described above. I started hearing a noise coming from the front end and thought it was the forks never thinking to check the fender mounts. When I discovered the first failure it was already too much damage to try the above mention crack repair. The fender had already lost some pieces. Ordered a new fender , made sure I centered the bolts in the holes as to not pinch the plastic, and after a few miles another failure announced by hearing a similar noise coming from the front end. My ultimate fix was an aftermarket fender from HMD and never had a problem since. I thinkthe ultimate problem is a bad design. The fender is too long and heavy and the mounting bolts are too close to the edge of the fender and too close to each other to support the fenders weight given conditions in its' enviorment of operation. The HMD peice and the stock pieces from Honda and BMW on their respective tour mounts got it right. HDM uses the stock mounting points with a much lighter fender that is more flexible making it able to absorb most of the enviormental operating vibration . Hence his fender doesn't have inheirant weight and rigidty along with the transmission of most of the enviormental of operation high frequency vibration to loosen the mounting bolts. Once the bolts are loosened this allows the stock fender to beat up the mounting holes, due to the above memtioned vibration, causing the subsequent part failure. Your choice, should you op for it, is to look at the HMD, Kwel Metal, or X bike fenders as replacements as either by type of material ordesign, will give you a maintainance free front fender option. |
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Iron Butt
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Peru, IN | Is there some way to proactively fix this? What coulc be done so this won't happen in the first place? It would suck to have to "fix" a brand new part but better that than get that rear section stuck in the bike so you can't turn. |
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Visionary
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Central Maryland | Monkeyman - 2013-05-29 8:28 AM
Is there some way to proactively fix this? What coulc be done so this won't happen in the first place? It would suck to have to "fix" a brand new part but better that than get that rear section stuck in the bike so you can't turn.
Yes... take the wheel off; clean the underside of the fender where the two halves meet... and then slap a shitload of JB Weld over it. That'll fix the sucka!  |
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Visionary
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Central Maryland | I'd imagine that the only real way to strengthen the rear fender; is to epoxy a piece of metal on the inner sides of the forward part of the fender; and then drill a hole in the metal so the two mounting bolts can mount it back on the fork leg.
Edited by willtill 2013-05-29 11:48 AM
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Iron Butt
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Peru, IN | willtill
2008 Triumph Rocket III w/Carpenter Racing 240 HP package
I just noticed that in your sig. I don't have 240 hp in my 4000 pound truck! |
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Loose front fender