Dealer installed reverse boched
Chief
Posted 2013-05-11 8:49 PM (#138760)
Subject: Dealer installed reverse boched


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 16
Grafton, Oh
The dealer I purchased my Vision from installed a reverse kit and will not replace the panels they ruined. I need pics of dealer installed reverse to show the owner what it should look like.
Find my pics here
http://www.thevog.net/forum/thread/18343/i-need-vision-help-reverse...

Edited by Chief 2013-05-11 8:55 PM
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Banjodan
Posted 2013-05-11 10:04 PM (#138763 - in reply to #138760)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Cruiser

Posts: 209
I think street eagle has reverse on a 13 vision
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SYNSTR
Posted 2013-05-11 10:20 PM (#138766 - in reply to #138760)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Iron Butt

Posts: 785
Mt. Vernon, WASH.
Contact your States A.G. Office for consumers and tell your innept 'dealer' that you have and they should look forward to a call or visit This is NOT a time to pussyfoot around, they hosed it, they better eat it! End of story-
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Monkeyman
Posted 2013-05-12 5:04 AM (#138774 - in reply to #138760)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Iron Butt

Posts: 1066
Peru, IN
I'd hold off on the Attorney General for a bit. Try MaVic corporate first (district rep?). If they don't get things fixed, then maybe the AG. As long as it's just a cosmetic issue, give the system a chance to work. If it's a mechanical issue, press harder. It sucks but at least you can still ride while someone's figuring out what to do.
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kris1956
Posted 2013-05-12 6:08 AM (#138775 - in reply to #138774)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Iron Butt

Posts: 1109

Monkeyman - 2013-05-12 5:04 AM I'd hold off on the Attorney General for a bit. Try MaVic corporate first (district rep?). If they don't get things fixed, then maybe the AG. As long as it's just a cosmetic issue, give the system a chance to work. If it's a mechanical issue, press harder. It sucks but at least you can still ride while someone's figuring out what to do.

 I would give MaVic first shot at this too but only up to a point. If you don't hear from them within three days then contact youR A.G.

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Monkeyman
Posted 2013-05-12 6:23 AM (#138776 - in reply to #138760)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Iron Butt

Posts: 1066
Peru, IN
That sounds fair. I could even see giving them a week, not forever.
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kris1956
Posted 2013-05-12 6:43 AM (#138777 - in reply to #138776)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Iron Butt

Posts: 1109

Monkeyman - 2013-05-12 6:23 AM That sounds fair. I could even see giving them a week, not forever.

 I would be interested in MaVics response, if any. The one time I contacted them about a dealership issue they told me they don't get involved in their franchise dealers issues. I was dumbfounded.

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Chief
Posted 2013-05-12 6:59 AM (#138778 - in reply to #138760)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 16
Grafton, Oh
Ma Vic said it is all on the dealer. I need some ammo to show the dealer. I sent them pics from the net and they said "those are factory installed". So I want dealer or owner installed pics to show him. Any pics would be greatly appreciated.
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kris1956
Posted 2013-05-12 7:04 AM (#138779 - in reply to #138778)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Iron Butt

Posts: 1109

Chief - 2013-05-12 6:59 AM Ma Vic said it is all on the dealer. I need some ammo to show the dealer. I sent them pics from the net and they said "those are factory installed". So I want dealer or owner installed pics to show him. Any pics would be greatly appreciated.

 Technically it is on the dealer but Vic could get involved. It's the lack of care from the factory that Victory needs to address, not only in your situation but across the board. The most successful car and motorcycle manufacturers insist their dealers take a look at the larger picture.

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Chief
Posted 2013-05-12 7:31 AM (#138780 - in reply to #138760)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 16
Grafton, Oh
Vic did call them but it didn't seem to do any good. I asked the very nice lady "shouldn't they hold their dealers to a higher standard?" She said they do but wouldn't give me a email to send the pics to. The dealer said they would replace one of the panels because they followed the given templates. I need to prove the hack of a mechanic didn't do that. So I need as many pics as possible. They hadn't installed one before so they don't know what it's supposed to look like and the hack threw away the evidence.
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kris1956
Posted 2013-05-12 7:46 AM (#138781 - in reply to #138780)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Iron Butt

Posts: 1109
Victory could get a bit more involved if they wanted too. They could request a meeting between yourself, a Victory rep and the dealer and resolve this.
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willtill
Posted 2013-05-12 7:58 AM (#138782 - in reply to #138760)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
Go back the the stealership; take one of the new Vic's for a test ride; then swap out the panels with your ride; and then return the test ride. Then go cut the new panels yourself.

Dealer wants to screw you? Screw him back... I say!

Edited by willtill 2013-05-12 7:59 AM
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Chief
Posted 2013-05-12 8:41 AM (#138783 - in reply to #138782)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 16
Grafton, Oh
Unfortunately it is a 2012 blue. None on the floor. I need either pics or the templates to prove to them they screwed it up. Visually looks like crap, you would think that would be enough.
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MaddMAx2u
Posted 2013-05-12 10:18 AM (#138786 - in reply to #138760)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Iron Butt

Posts: 880
Orlando, FL
Ma Vic really guys? And where does one get that number? Personally I don't have time to wait. Ma Vic could be 6 freaking months. Take pics, document everything, and tell them the next call will be from your attorney if this isn't fixed ASAP!
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Chief
Posted 2013-05-12 10:47 AM (#138787 - in reply to #138786)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 16
Grafton, Oh
Their number is on the website. It will cost more for the hour of time for the attorney than to just purchase the panels. The sales manager said he will get them for me for dealer cost. Yes there is princable involved, but at what cost.
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Monkeyman
Posted 2013-05-12 11:33 AM (#138788 - in reply to #138760)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Iron Butt

Posts: 1066
Peru, IN
There's another solution. Ride around with the crappy panels for a while. Every time someone tells you how bad they look, let them know the story (briefly). Make sure you're honest and don't put anything personal into the story. Just a simple, "I had Dealer X install the OEM reverse option on my bike and you can see what a hack job he did on the panels.". Don't say they're a bunch of crooks or how you'd like to get back at them. Assuming the dealer is local, they'll hear about it eventually. Maybe they'll man up once they do. Of course, I'd still talk to a Vic rep first.
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SYNSTR
Posted 2013-05-12 11:41 AM (#138789 - in reply to #138788)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Iron Butt

Posts: 785
Mt. Vernon, WASH.
Ah yes! Put it on the riders Jungle Telegraph too- more than one business had either made major changes or gone under from 'I tell two friends, and they tell two friends...'
Again, contact your A.G.s Office, you pay their salary and they do work for you, also contact the local TV stations with a Consumer advocate segment.
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Street Eagle
Posted 2013-05-12 11:59 AM (#138791 - in reply to #138760)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Iron Butt

Posts: 691
Manchester, CT
I've taken several shots of my installed reverse kit (this was installed this week). I'm at lunch for Mom's Day right now but will post them. Looking at your pix the dealer butcher your's. with my install it looks like it came out of the factory. Another path of recourse is the MVD.
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Street Eagle
Posted 2013-05-12 12:54 PM (#138794 - in reply to #138760)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Iron Butt

Posts: 691
Manchester, CT
Darn dislexia .... DMV
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Street Eagle
Posted 2013-05-12 12:54 PM (#138795 - in reply to #138760)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Iron Butt

Posts: 691
Manchester, CT
Darn dislexia .... DMV
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Monkeyman
Posted 2013-05-12 1:55 PM (#138799 - in reply to #138760)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Iron Butt

Posts: 1066
Peru, IN
Not just dyslexia but some sort of seizure issue. You must have hit the Submit button more than once.
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Street Eagle
Posted 2013-05-12 2:20 PM (#138800 - in reply to #138760)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Iron Butt

Posts: 691
Manchester, CT
Here are the photos my reverse kit installation. If you need other angles/photos just let me know. Note - The shot from above - left side of the bike/reverse motor color black, is reflecting onto the chrome rear panel. Look closely and you will see that the panel matches the contour of the motor perfectly.

http://shutterpro.smugmug.com/Other/Reverse-Kit-Installed-on-2013/2...
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Chief
Posted 2013-05-12 6:42 PM (#138806 - in reply to #138800)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 16
Grafton, Oh
Thank you so much street eagle. I am going to email the link to the owner and sales manager. I hope it does the trick. Once again thank you so much!
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TheMike
Posted 2013-05-12 7:03 PM (#138807 - in reply to #138760)
Subject: RE: Dealer installed reverse boched


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 23
Longmont, CO
I'll try and attach a few pics here for you. If it doesn't work I'll head over to the VOG.

Nope. Going to the VOG for you

Edited by TheMike 2013-05-12 7:04 PM
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Street Eagle
Posted 2013-05-12 8:24 PM (#138813 - in reply to #138760)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Iron Butt

Posts: 691
Manchester, CT
Hey Chief...its my pleasure. Please let me know if you need anything else
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waterbug
Posted 2013-05-12 8:35 PM (#138814 - in reply to #138760)
Subject: RE: Dealer installed reverse boched


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 48
Cicero, Indiana
Hey Chief if you get a chance post a couple of pictures of what they did and how bad I would like to see it. Good luck
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Chief
Posted 2013-05-12 8:57 PM (#138816 - in reply to #138814)
Subject: RE: Dealer installed reverse boched


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 16
Grafton, Oh
I put a link to another forum as the pics were too big for this site.
http://www.thevog.net/forum/thread/18343/i-need-vision-help-reverse...

Edited by Chief 2013-05-12 8:59 PM
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Liandra
Posted 2013-05-13 1:02 PM (#138840 - in reply to #138760)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Cruiser

Posts: 188
Tifton, GA
I bought my kit from a guy that bought it from a dealer going out of business. It had the panels with the kit so mine are a perfect fit, but don't think they will help your case. See if the dealer will get that kind panels if still available.
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Chief
Posted 2013-05-13 5:17 PM (#138847 - in reply to #138760)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 16
Grafton, Oh
Thank you all for your input. The dealer is buying me the panels. I will cut them myself.
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willtill
Posted 2013-05-13 5:44 PM (#138851 - in reply to #138847)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
Chief - 2013-05-13 6:17 PM

Thank you all for your input. The dealer is buying me the panels. I will cut them myself.


That is good news. Seems he "caved" a little for you.
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Chief
Posted 2013-05-21 9:38 PM (#139358 - in reply to #138760)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 16
Grafton, Oh
New panels arrived today. Anyone have the templates? I am going to attempt to make my own templates if I am unsuccessful in finding or getting them from Ma Vic.
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Chief
Posted 2013-05-29 9:30 PM (#139676 - in reply to #138760)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 16
Grafton, Oh
I have pics of the proper cut out, marked on the back of the panels



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baadawg
Posted 2013-05-29 10:12 PM (#139678 - in reply to #138760)
Subject: Re: Dealer installed reverse boched


Tourer

Posts: 499
Chattanooga, TN
Now that looks way better!
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