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| I made a stop at my local dealer on the way home from work, due to a mech. problem.[will discuss later]. while i browsed around the showroom I noticed about 12 to 15 cr and various other models. they had only one vision. I asked why and he replied they are afraid they might get stuck with them[not sell] the last 2 or 3 they had took forever to sell. My guess is visions' will be discontinued or redesigned. I guess its true... you love em or you hate em. just sayin...... |
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New Bohemia, VA | Supports what I've said all along. The Vision will go to the Victory archives. Since Victory wimped and went to "traditional" styling sealed the deal. The bottom line is ALWAYS the bottom line. I've got an original!!! |
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Rancho Cucamonga, CA | Whenever I wander into a Harley dealer, I never see a Road Glide on the floor either. The full fairing bikes just aren't as cool. But I've heard no rumors of HD getting rid of the RG's. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | RG's are going away for 2014. Rumor is it will return with a watercooled engine............. |
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Jasper, MO | My dealer doesn't have many Visions on the floor either.
He keeps selling all the ones he gets. 
He sells a lot of Cross Country Tours also.
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | And I'll say it again: "YAHOO!!!!!"
VISION is the best bike EVER - and if they stop making it - my bike will be THE BEST BIKE EVER !!!
I like where this is going. As I have said in many threads - "Keep modifying your Visions - makes my stock Vision look like a CUSTOM". And the fewer that are sold - the better mine looks. I know - selfish, selfish, selfish.
And I yam ... selfish. Loves my Vision. It rode me from Vancouver up the 'Sea To Sky Highway' to Whistler Mountain today - like a dream come true. At our lunch stop in Squamish, this guy came over and started kicking my bike. I took a swipe at him, then realized it was an OLD riding buddy that I hadn't seen in YEARS! Co-Pilot was in UGH-UGH-UGH YIKE mode - cuz she didn't know him.
He was riding a Barn-Door Harley - and was astonished at the beauty of my VISION. Him and I rode to Alaska 15 years earlier - so we were 'close'. Wonderful ride on the best bike on the planet.
Point is - I wouldn't be unhappy if not ONE other Vision is sold. I am happy with a bike that EVERYONE is astounded by - I just don't want it to be just another BIKE !
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Manchester, CT | Hey Donetracey
I'm jealous...I went skiing at whistler the year the new resort opened up. It's absolutely stunning landscape and thinking it back it is awesome riding country! I've only had my vision for 3 weeks and yes it has attracted many admirers. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | My dealer No longer stocks a vision. Its special order only. I got their 2nd to the last one. They said the cross bikes completely out sell the vision.. but honest.. I like that I don't have a cookie cutter "I want to fit in" bike...  |
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LaGrange, GA | Arkainzeye - 2013-05-09 12:16 PM
My dealer No longer stocks a vision. Its special order only. I got their 2nd to the last one. They said the cross bikes completely out sell the vision.. but honest.. I like that I don't have a cookie cutter "I want to fit in" bike...
Same here. Guy was even an asshole about it to boot. As a result, they're my closest dealer, but not "my" dealer. |
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Lindale, TX | Maybe in 20 years my origional production 2008 Vision will be a classic! |
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Lindale, TX | Five years /24,200 miles....I need to stop working so much and ride more! |
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Central Illinois | Definitely need to find the time to ride more ETR. Even here in Illinois I am riding about 8000 miles a year, and we have snow on the roads part of the year.
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Cabot Arkansas | My dealer's best selling bike is the cross country followed by the Vision.He quit stocking hammer's a couple of years ago and only keeps a couple of Jackpot's and a few 8 ball's and and a couple of each of the other steel frame bikes.He is picking up Indian though.I bought 2 Vision's in 2009 and we rode them all over the country and then last year we wanted new bikes and test rode the CCT's many miles ,but in the end we bought 2 new Vision's.The Vision is the first bike I ever liked well enough to buy again.If I bought another bike this year it would be the Vision again.We do a few 600-1000 mile days a year and I have found nothing that beats the comfort and ease of riding of the Vision.And I really like that the Vision doesn't look anything like the harley's and harley clone bikes. |
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LaGrange, GA | Maverick - 2013-05-09 1:40 PM
My dealer's best selling bike is the cross country followed by the Vision.He quit stocking hammer's a couple of years ago and only keeps a couple of Jackpot's and a few 8 ball's and and a couple of each of the other steel frame bikes.He is picking up Indian though.I bought 2 Vision's in 2009 and we rode them all over the country and then last year we wanted new bikes and test rode the CCT's many miles ,but in the end we bought 2 new Vision's.The Vision is the first bike I ever liked well enough to buy again.If I bought another bike this year it would be the Vision again.We do a few 600-1000 mile days a year and I have found nothing that beats the comfort and ease of riding of the Vision.And I really like that the Vision doesn't look anything like the harley's and harley clone bikes.
My nearby dealer is the opposite. I live close to Ft. Benning, so his primary customer base are young dudes all amped up on awesomeness with cash in their pockets. His floor is full of the flashy, ride down the strip, look-good-for-a-few-minutes-no-matter-how-uncomfortable-I-may-be type bikes. A couple of CCs, but mostly just the show-off types and sportbikes. I hate it, but I don't blame him for stocking what he sells. I'm just thankful that Victory has their tour truck, because that's how I got to touch and ride a Vision. Otherwise I would've been SOL and probably ended up with a Road Glide instead of the better bike. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Hmmm, I've been hearing this since 2010. Guess only time will tell. 2014's will be out in about 4 months............. |
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| A dealer near me has had the same couple of Vision's on the floor for a long time now....But so are other models still on the floor from last year...The economy in Michigan is still slow and bikes don't seem to selling much around here....HD dealers are always full of customers though...I gotta admit I love my Vision, but have been giving the new Honda F6B a long look.....Just kidding...... |
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Prairie City, IA United States | I took my Vision in for service on Tuesday and there were 5 customer owned Visions in the parking lot at the same time. Granted they don't sell as fast as a CR but and J Performance in Ottumwa always has a couple on the floor. Best kept secret is a Vision. |
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| I think one of the problem with Vision sales is the paint schemes. Look at the two custom paints on the cross bikes this year, they look great. Most of the Vision colors are boring. |
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Jasper, MO | I think the main problem with Vision sales is the Out-Of-The-Box thinking and styling from an American motorcycle company. If the thing were made by Honda or BMW, people would be all over it and the magazines would be tripping over themselves to praise it.
When I bought my Vision in early 2008, lots of enthusiastic people wanted to know if it was a new model from Honda. When told that it was an American made bike from a company called Victory, they looked bewildered and disappointed. Not only that, but some of the riders of Japanese brands automatically dismissed it when they found out it was an American made bike--equating that to poor quality (in their minds). When they thought it was a Honda, they were all over it.
The reaction was even worse back when I bought my 2000 Sport Cruiser. Once people found out it was an American made bike, they tended to equate that to Harley Davidson. For many riders, that was a turn off. The riders of Asian made bikes just dismissed it out-of-hand, and the riders of Harleys just dismissed it as a wanna-be.
Victory has had a preconceived bias against American made bikes, on the one hand, and anything not made by Harley, on the other hand, to overcome.
Those of us who are willing to think out-of-the box ourselves have enjoyed one of the finest bikes made anywhere in the world. Those who live in a box don't know what they are missing.
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Akron Ohio area | I rode tailgunner today at my dealerships "Truck" event.
Leading the pack was a Vision, I ride a Vision and both Visions off the truck went out every time.
Now that the Vision is cheaper than the Cross Country, interest seems to have picked up.
My only complaint is that they dropped the HID headlight from the new models.
I have it on my 2011 tour and when it gets dark outside it comes on and starts searching for deer.
Arlen Ness and Sonny Barger of the Hell's Angels both ride Visions.
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Hey, I own two. I can't figure out why there aren't more out on the road..............I guess the "Art Decko" styling just isn't for everybody. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Sorry it's spelled Art Deco.............
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Central Illinois | If you want to know which bikes are more popular, you don't need to go ask the dealer, tat will tell you which one sells better locally though. Go to one of the Victory forums where there is a listing for each model and just count how many posts each model gets in a day. The Vision on a typical day runs one or two posts to the 10+ on the Cross Country. I have to believe that the number of people on each type reflects ownership of those types. I love the Vision but it just does not sell as well as many other models.
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | We as Vision riders have to face facts. The CC and CCT will outsell Visions at least 7 or 8 to 1. It's just a more conventional looking Touring bike and the giant bags are a BIG plus too.................That being said I hope Vistory continues to sell the Vision. The more model years the better the spare parts if they ever do stop production............ |
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Jasper, MO | XRsteve - 2013-05-10 8:51 PM
We as Vision riders have to face facts. The CC and CCT will outsell Visions at least 7 or 8 to 1. It's just a more conventional looking Touring bike and the giant bags are a BIG plus too...............
That's a valid point, but I think Victory will stop selling the Vision when Honda stops selling the Goldwing.
I've ridden a CCT a fair distance now, and while it is a very nice bike, and I wouldn't be at all unhappy with one if there was no other choice, it is still not as good as a Vision. The ONLY advantage the CCT has over the Vision is saddlebag storage. In all other areas, the Vision is superior, at least for me and my wife. The Vision is the flagship for Victory, just as the Goldwing is for Honda. The Cross bikes are for those who want a more traditional style, but they give up a little (CCT) or a lot (CR) to get it.
The Vision will probably evolve, just like the Goldwing, but it's here to stay.
Honda will probably copy the CCT and continue to sell the Goldwing too.
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| Dude really? Besides the Street Glide the Road Glide is there hottest model. You ever pick up a costum magizne? That's about all they use for a base is the Road Glide. |
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Rancho Cucamonga, CA | I never said the RG wasn't popular. I said you don't see them on the showroom floors. The customers that buy these types of bikes know what they want long before they walk into a dealer. Showrooms are for those that don't know what they want yet. Thus you tend to see the flashier, trendier bikes there.
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New Bohemia, VA | Too many people are afraid of the Vision, I believe. I even believe some Vision owners are afraid as well. Sadly, it has to do with perception. I could drag on why, but it will serve no good purpose, but that is the bottom line. Personally, I feel the Vision is the best bike ever built because in the end, it is for the rider, and it cannot be duplicated. It is one bike that the engineers took a chance on and got it right the first time. There cannot be another bike built to replicate everything the Vision gives, except another Vision. While many will whine over fit and finish, and creature comforts, like radios, gawky fins, and huge bags that suck away the ride, the ride is what I want at the end of the day, and the beginning of the next. The ride is impeccable.
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Central Maryland | The ride is reminiscent of an old style Cadillac... to me. The Vision is my Cadillac. No wait... my Bentley.... |
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New Bohemia, VA | willtill - 2013-05-11 7:39 AM The ride is reminiscent of an old style Cadillac... to me. The Vision is my Cadillac. No wait... my Bentley.... No, my Bentley!!! |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | The Vision is actually a success if you compare it to other "Full Body" bikes that have been marketed over the years. Henderson tried it in the 1930's it was a complete failure, Vincent tried it with the Black Prince: another no go, and mighty Honda tried with the Pacific Coast back in the late 80's. Honda pulled the plug on that after maybe three years. So the fact that Victory has sold maybe 5000 in 6 model years is a success in it's own right. Will that save it and make 10 model years I don't know, but it is the most comfortable bike ever made.
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New Bohemia, VA | Despite the cool look, that bike is small. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | varyder - 2013-05-11 1:30 PM
Despite the cool look, that bike is small.
You're right. I think they were all pretty small in 1930. Bikes are just bigger and better than ever right now..................Folks that say the old days were better haven't ridden a 1973 Electa Glide or first generation 1000cc Goldwing lately.............
Oh and by the way, like you, I can't wait to see the new Chief. The engine is beautiful, hope the bike is too...
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Phenix City AL. | I dont like popular things, who the hell would want to steal my vision and it is eay to find in a sea of other bikes. lol, I like it and thats all that matters. |
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Peru, IN | I WAS whining about the fit/finish, Chris, but that doesn't mean I don't think the Vision isn't the best bike out there and that doesn't mean I'd trade mine for anything else. I've tried to get every rider I know to test ride a Vision just once even if they don't plan on buying one. Most of the comments I get afterwards are all about the awesome handling, comfort, air management and power but they still say they just can't get over the looks and/or they still want something more traditional. I can understand all that. Personally, I don't care what others think about my possessions. I drive a generic Blazer and a bike that admittedly has some funky styling.
The reason the Vision isn't the best selling bike in the world is due to styling alone. There just isn't anything else that can be beat. |
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New Bohemia, VA | I know MM, and you do ride one, you fall to the exception like myself. I could stand all day and point out every flaw...with anything. There has only been one off the showroom car that has impressed me and that was the early lexus. My wife's boss bought one for his wife when they first came out. It was truly a marvel in 1988. I tried to find a flaw in the fit of the body work because him being a paint and body man, he couldn't find one. Neither could I, very impressive. Having worked for a Chevrolet dealership in high school, I got to sit in many of corvettes. Most of them couldn't even go to the showroom off the truck because of the body flaws. It was something to see brand new corvettes marked up circling the flaws that had to be corrected and repainted. One of the Vette's had over 70 of them, and none were transport flaws. I think we see what we want to see. Like the saying goes, "if you didn't know it was there, you wouldn't see it" |
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New York State | My Vision like its owner is flawless. |
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Davenport, IA | Yea, for those talking about the HD Road Glide, I also heard it was being discontinued and being replaced by a water cooled version. Will be called the "Water Glide", then renamed or nicknamed "Water Leak" after the customer spends numerous visits to service department for repairs. Just say'in....  |
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seattle, wa | kmt27 - 2013-05-11 6:28 PM
Yea, for those talking about the HD Road Glide, I also heard it was being discontinued and being replaced by a water cooled version. Will be called the "Water Glide", then renamed or nicknamed "Water Leak" after the customer spends numerous visits to service department for repairs. Just say'in....
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Pillager, MN | New and improved RoadGlide (and this one doesn't leak a thing!)
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Actually, my Valkyrie Tourer with RoadGlide fairing mounted to it. Soon to be replaced with a Vision...
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Peru, IN | I tried to put a Tour Glide (predecessor to the Road Glide) fairing on my old Nomad. I didn't have the skills to make it work but I had it mocked up once. Lots of potential.
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | I wouldn't make too much fun of a watercooled RoadGlide, if it's made it'll be able to handle 11:1 compression and be a nice powerful engine. before I bought my second Vision I had a RoadGlide for 9 years and put 57,000 miles on it. Never leaked a drop of oil. Still won't be as modern as our SOHC engines. Harley just seems to be stuck to PushRod engines, something about their look I guess............ |
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seattle, wa | Monkeyman, that looked good.
I'm sure HD will put out a water pumper of some kind soon enough, it will look good and be successful.
They don't fail at too many things with all the research and development they do.
HD has always tested the waters for awhile before they get in too deep, the V-Rod might not be a big money maker for them but it is proving the engine to be reliable and powerful. All that info saved for future use. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | rwilly - 2013-05-12 4:44 PM
Monkeyman, that looked good.
I'm sure HD will put out a water pumper of some kind soon enough, it will look good and be successful.
They don't fail at too many things with all the research and development they do.
HD has always tested the waters for awhile before they get in too deep, the V-Rod might not be a big money maker for them but it is proving the engine to be reliable and powerful. All that info saved for future use.
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Y'all DO know the "V-ROD" engine is German ??? And how did discussion of Harley crap get into this thread? I thought we were talking about "BENTLEYS" ???
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Mt. Vernon, WASH. | Years ago I had a boss who said he wanted to own an airplane that didn't say 'I'm here' he wanted one that said 'DAMN IT, I'VE ARRIVED!!' I love not seeing myself coming down the road 150 times in a mile astride a 'ME TOO' plus it's easy to find in the parking lot, it's the only one with a crowd around it. |
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| XRsteve - 2013-05-10 8:51 PM
The Cross bikes are for those who want a more traditional style, but they give up a little (CCT) or a lot (CR) to get it.
That's definitely a matter of opinion. I didn't give up anything when I got my CR. It was the perfect bike for me since I don't care for a bike with a fairing and like being able to take off my windshield within a few minutes and ride naked. I've never liked the styling of the Vision so it wasn't even a consideration when I was looking for a new bike. If the Vision 8 Ball is ever offered again I might consider it though.
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Clinton, CT | It has been an interesting couple of weeks- Last month (April) ended with a bang and a new Vision.
I took delivery of my Vision April 30th; I financed it with GE and took note of the fine print on "The Victory Guarantee" program. I will admit that I have wrestled with this decision- not buyer's remorse per se but unsettled nonetheless. It had nothing to do with the ride, it is the styling, the questions in my mind about support after the sale (mainly lack of mechanics) and supportability with accessories (upgrading the radio?).
I started looking at touring rigs and planned to buy a new Electra Glide Ultra, but then I rode one. Looked at the Road Glide Ultra, just didn't do it for me...
Looked at the XCT and liked it, but they had a Vision sitting there... The more I stared at it, the more I was intrigued. I will be the 1st to admit that when the Vision 1st came out, I said out loud "no damn way" when I saw one in person. Mind you, I was riding an EGlide Ultra at the time.
I can understand why it is not a block-buster seller- it has polarizing style and is unique. For all of the "individuals" out there that want to "do their own thing" they follow the herd. I say that, being one myself until this bike.
The Vision is not "mainstream" popular but I am thankful for that. My original dislike for the styling changed to curiosity, then to respect, to infatuation and now has evolved to lust!
Today I took my 12 year old daughter for a ride. She used to ride with me (as did all of my girls) and was VERY excited that we have a touring bike again to go with my Concours. As we rode through the back roads of New England, a car in front of us realized they were about to miss their turn. They nearly locked up their brakes in the middle of the road to make a left. I grabbed the brakes hard but too late- hard press on the right grip to swerve around them. Bike dove around the car with zero fuss and was completely planted. I'm not sure I could have made the same maneuver safely on my Concours; on a Harley I would still be on the phone with insurance assuming I wasn't in a hospital. My daughter never flinched...
I can tell you that any doubts I had about my Vision were put to rest today- Its a keeper. I'm at 470 miles on the ticker and since I am on leave this week, I am looking forward to a half-dozen coats of Zaino, pulling the trunk off since the cover came in and an oil change the end of the week. The wife and I need to take a ride up to Hartford to Hoters for lunch so I guess I'll pass on the "Victory Guarantee" program! The best part is I don't need to buy a bunch of new leather, bandannas, matching riding suits, patches, Power-Ranger suits or any other stuff to fit into some pack. Anyone who rides with me can just be whoever they are, as long as they can keep up!
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Central Illinois | I intend to give up nothing. I presently ride an HD Road Glide, yep one of those things recently criticized in this thread. It is indeed not being produced for the 2014 model year, which should make my present ride valuable in some way because it will be a discontinued model. That is not rumor, it is fact. I also intend to trade my 2011 RGU for a Victory Vision, which may or may not survive this year's changes to the models that Victory offers for 2014. Why in the heck would I do that? The answer is easy. I could not care less which models continue into the next year and which do not. My focus is on getting a model that will perform well for me for several years after I acquire it. That is where I think that Victory has an advantage. If they fail me in that respect you can color me gone. I have absolutely no brand loyalty because I consider brand loyalty to be a fool's game.
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New Bohemia, VA | I like your take OM, it makes life more exciting. But I do believe brand loyalty to be a good thing sometimes. If we expect Victory to drop the Vision, maybe it will be the first new model of Indian. That would go together well, I would own an Indian Vision, in fact, mine already has the tassels and I hope by AVR I'll have them on the floorboards.
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Akron Ohio area | The Vision remains the flagship of Victory and is still the best touring vehicle they produce.
That's Victory talking.
Ford has the mustang, Chevy has the Vet.
While talking to the company rep at my dealer's truck event this last weekend, he assured me that the Vision will continue to be Victory's flagship for many years to come.
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New York State | Ovaryder - 2013-05-12 10:37 PM
I like your take OM, it makes life more exciting. But I do believe brand loyalty to be a good thing sometimes.? If we expect Victory to drop the Vision, maybe it will be the first new model of Indian.? That would go together well, I would own an Indian Vision, in fact, mine already has the tassels and I hope by AVR I'll have them on the floorboards.
From everything Polaris has said since buying Indian I would say don't hold your breath waiting for a Warchief or Dreamcatcher Vision. They said there would be no crossing of DNA.
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Hell, I'd just like to see the Chief be a full touring Rig. Not a "bagger" as they call the day trip bike these days.............But as ya'll know I have 2 Visions. There really isn't room for another full size bike in my stable and I doubt the new Chief will be as capable as the Vision as a touring platform, but time will tell.
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New Bohemia, VA | If they though the ergos like the KM Indians, it will be a great ride. Of course, it would not have the sterile ride the Vision has, but riding an Indian is about riding the elements... |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | It will be very interesting to see what the replacement engine will be for the Harley TC engine. If it just has water cooled heads it will make a marked improvement. Don't underestimate the Power and engineering of Milwaukee. They can do alot of things. They are usually hamstrung by customer prefences but water cooling may be forced on them by EPA retrictions because of their 2 valve deep combustion chamber design and emision requirements............Victory could be next, but it makes you wonder, why did Polaris go to such great lengths to develope the 111" Indian powerstroke engine as aircooled ?? There may be life left in the aircooled big twins yet, maybe direct cylinder injection ?? Time will tell.............
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Pittsburgh, PA | I bought my vision because I loved the streamlined designs and my wife did not really like the V92c that I put together for 2 up riding. Se never felt comfortable on it. I have not heard her say a word about not feeling comfortable on the vision. We have not been able to use it as I intended for long cruises due to injuries and 2 teenage sons that keep our schedule tied up. I use daily and some ask why I use such a big bike for my daily trip to work and back. I tell them that it is the smoothest, best handling bike that I have ever been on. I do complain about the noisy trunk, the inability to get victory t-shirts at each tourist destination, and the fact that there is not a lot of aftermarket stuff to buy for these bikes but I will not get rid of it for anything. I fell into a great deal on the hammer and figured that I would use it for work and single rides but it usually sits there while I jump on the vision. I joked with the wife that I'm trading the hammer in on the new Indian and while she was telling me a the reasons why I should not do that, the idea came to me that I should be looking for one of street visions for me to use for single riding!! I have never had the trunk and armrests off of mine but this is my new plan. I'm only 42 so I'll just wait until someone else wants to drop on at a good price and then I'll have the best of both worlds. I do agree that the dealer network needs a ton of upgrading every time one you bring it up but then I remember that I have yet to need any service other than regular maintenance. I have never really cared to follow the in crowd but I did always want to reward myself for the amount of hours I spend at work. So for me it was not just a decision to buy two wheel transportation but to buy myself what I thought was the best bike for me. I believe I have the best looking, smoothest riding, great handling, and most dependable bike on the road and for me, that is what it is all about. |
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Scottsdale | Victory of Mesa has sold 5 Visions in the past month. Me thinks their pretty popular in AZ |
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| 5 Vision's in Mesa in a month? You think that is a popular? A city the size of Mesa you would like to think they move alot more than that. My wife is the controller for a top 20 HD dealer in the U.S. in Mi. and they move well over a 100 bikes a month. Shoot they usually have at the least 200 bikes in stock and it is not unusual to have 350 in stock. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | That's apples and oranges. Harley makes more than 500 engines a day at the engine plant in Milwukee. I saw that with my own eyes last August. I believe Harley is back making over 240,000 bikes a year. Harley is projecting sales wordwide for 2013 of between 259,000 and 265,000 units. Victory has been touted as the 2nd largest motorcycle manufacturer in the US but even though Polaris dosen't release numbers if it's only 15,000 that would be a pretty big number.........
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Scottsdale | That's just 5 Visions. They sell all the other bikes as well and compare them to a HD dealership. An HD dealership is about 10 times larger. The point of this thread was that Visions are unpopular. Not true |
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New Bohemia, VA | In the large scheme of things, no, the Vision is not very popular. It is very well loved of those that know her though. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | varyder - 2013-05-22 8:55 AM
In the large scheme of things, no, the Vision is not very popular. It is very well loved of those that know her though.
Yes Sir, that is very true, that's why I sold my RoadGlide and bought a second Vision........  |
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Hinton, Iowa | Personally, I don't give a RATS ASS if it's popular or not. I kind of liked it when I got my 08 and people crowded around at a gas stop or passed me on the highway to give me a thumbs up. That's why I opted for a 13 when the time came to trade. I love this motorcycle!!! Ride Safe, Mike
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Davenport, IA | Visions not popular? I just took a job transfer and relocated to Davenport, IA. Left for work in my cage traveling on I-80, looked in rear view mirror and saw blue Vision hauling butt, passing me while I gave him thumbs up. I travel a lot for my job and frequently see Visions on the road, usually passing me effortlessly. I notice Vision riders always wearing a big smile because the bike is so fun to ride. I can relate! |
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| I love my Vision and would not trade it for anything currently out there..But I agree with some you don't see many on the road in Michigan around here..Going on 3rd riding season with mine and except for the AVR in Iowa and the local" Lil Sturgis" rally near Coldwater, and an occasional stop at the dealer for Demo Days, I have only seen 6 on the road which includes mine....
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Peru, IN | varyder - 2013-05-22 9:55 AM
It is very well loved of those that know her though.
Yes, it is. Probably the first bike I've owned (out of probably 30) that I'm truely passionate about. The ride gets better every time I ride it. |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | My SPCSHP is VERY popular with me! But I am still hurting from a fall on Monday.
Going up a hill in traffic Monday, had to stop suddenly and unexpectedly when a car cut in - lost balance and down she went.
So I'm trying to slow/stop the descent, and Co-Pilot is on top of me as well - hell of a losing battle. Landed on my elbow and fought so hard, my right shoulder is torn up inside.
A good Samaritan who was stopped in the opposite lane - jumped out of his car and ran over to help - arriving just as I got to my feet. We stood the bike back up and put it on the side stand. I thanked him heartily, we got back on and drove off - all in the duration of one red-light cycle.
I finished the ride home maybe 25 minutes later - the most PAINFUL ride in my life. My elbow had to be iced down - was the size of a baseball - and my whole body was in pain. BUT - no damage to the bike, NO loss of blood, and I don't think any broken bones - just muscle damage to my 70 year old body !!!
Don't wanna do that again ...
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| Takes a while to heal at our age Don. Good luck and I am glad that you are O. K. |
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Central Maryland | I'm sorry to hear of your misfortune with the bike; and I hope the wifey is ok too! Get that shoulder checked out by a Doc if you think you tore something in it.
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| Wow, not what I expected a 70 year old arms to look like. Impressive!!! I have some nice guns now (20" and always dreaded what would happen when I got older. Now I know, it's all up to me on what I wanna look like! Thanks for the inspiration and Get Well Soon, riding season has just started, lol |
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| Being 73 I know the pain and slow healing process...Been down a couple of times on my Vision and thank the good Lord no damage to me or the bike..Fell last year in driveway after tripping over a loose tarp and pulled some ligaments around knee which are still healing...Good Luck and glad to hear your okay. |
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| Hay Guy's I'v dropped mine so many time I don't want to count (had a left shoulder replacement 2 years ago [excuse]) I'm begining to get so much confidents in it I'm thinging of demonstrating it. I just let it go and step away when I get caught in a bid. It stays up anuff you just back into it and lift up. Latest one was in 1/2" of mud at Chick Ridge, KY and when a guy was going to help me pick it up, I just said " no problem when you have tip over protection" I wished I could hide my name but I can truely tell you "tip over protection works", on concrete, on asphalt, in the middle of an intersection, a u'e on a four lane with a trailor on it, pulling into a gas station, in grass, in mud, it work's. Not one visable scratch. As well as the side stand, flicking its's self up. An engineering marvel. |
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Central Maryland | wingit3611 - 2013-06-07 1:22 PM
Hay Guy's I'v dropped mine so many time I don't want to count (had a left shoulder replacement 2 years ago [excuse]) I'm begining to get so much confidents in it I'm thinging of demonstrating it. I just let it go and step away when I get caught in a bid. It stays up anuff you just back into it and lift up. Latest one was in 1/2" of mud at Chick Ridge, KY and when a guy was going to help me pick it up, I just said " no problem when you have tip over protection" I wished I could hide my name but I can truely tell you "tip over protection works", on concrete, on asphalt, in the middle of an intersection, a u'e on a four lane with a trailor on it, pulling into a gas station, in grass, in mud, it work's. Not one visable scratch. As well as the side stand, flicking its's self up. An engineering marvel. Agree with the side stand action. I most regrettably one day left mine down when pulling out; and that sucker snapped back up into stowed position quicker than you could think Homer Simpson "duh" ! 
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Davenport, IA | Been doing too much traveling for my job in the cage lately, in Iowa. Since Friday, I have seen 8 Visions and just as many other Vic's between Sioux City and Davenport on the road. Rally's in both cities over weekend. Those visions are as smooth as glass watching them cruise down the highway! Dang, wish I could be on mine! Too much work, not enough play! |
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Delray Beach, FL United States | Looked at all sorts of Harleys bottom line Love my Vision! Better engine, more hp, more torque and best of all it attracts and stands out in a crowd!
Ride on Visionaries! |
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Central Illinois | kmt27, it is time for a whole new attitude. If you have seen that many Vics you could have passed that many Vics while going the other way. Ride your Vic and enjoy it. If I only rode mine for "pleasure" it would maybe see 2000 miles each year. Because I also include mine as "basic transportation" it sees about 8000 miles instead.
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