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Puddle Jumper
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| i got 4000 miles on my vv . has anybody had any trouble with their e3 tire wearing a flat spot off the face of the tire. i did ride in quite abit of wind . but idont think that should matter. but thats what it looks like. has any heard of warranty for tires. ill have tocheck with the dealer.
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Iron Butt
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Broken Arrow, OK | Welcome to the world of the Dunlop E3.
Folks here either love em' or hate em', not much in between. |
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Tourer
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Central Illinois | At 4000 miles I will hate them. No way should anyone ever be looking for replacement tires at a mere 4000 miles. Any even trivially suitable tire should last much longer than that. What about the Metzler tires for that same bike? Maybe they are truly suitable. |
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Iron Butt
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Peru, IN | Assuming the "flat spot" is all the way around the tire, that's normal. Mine's doing it and I ride normally (although more straights than curves). |
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Iron Butt
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, WI | I have had good luck with the E3.
I just replaced my front E3 and rear Dunlop Winter Sport. Both had 17,000 miles on them, the rear could have gone a little longer. |
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Cruiser
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shakopee , Mn | Ifs its about an inch or so wide its the hard rubber part of the tire, the balance ot the tread is a softer compound. |
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Iron Butt
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| Normal for e3's, they do start to sing to you at about 4k miles. My original set was my last set. |
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Visionary
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Central Maryland | I like the E3's myself (so far) with a little over 12.5 K on them. Longest lasting tire I've seen so far on any of my bikes. Am tempted to darkside the rear but may go with the E3's again. |
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Cruiser
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Mechanicsville, VA United States | Air pressure is too low, causing the flat spots......mine was doing it too, try keeping the pressure around 40(cold) in the front and 42(cold) in the rear and see if this doesn't help smooth out the tire....it did for me! |
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Puddle Jumper
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Leighton, IA | diamonbird - 2013-05-01 5:34 AM
Air pressure is too low, causing the flat spots......mine was doing it too, try keeping the pressure around 40(cold) in the front and 42(cold) in the rear and see if this doesn't help smooth out the tire....it did for me!
I agree. Having run E3s on a number of bikes (mostly Goldwings) I can attest that the E3 is very particular with respect to pressure. I'm pretty anal about keeping my pressure at 41-42 rear and 38-40 front (cold). On a 75 degree day, the rear pressure will get over 50 PSI with a temp of about 108 degrees. I've received excellent service from them and have always felt very sure footed on my E3s. Get a little noisy? Yup, they do but it's gradual and doesn't bother me a whole lot.
It's true that E3s are either loved or hated. I have no problem putting on another set of E3s and I expect to get at least 12K out of this set.
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Visionary
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| To make tire last you half to check them once a month.
You don't say where you live. So did you store it over winter and it went flat.
Show us a photo would help |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | You won't find a warrranty for the tires except through dunlop, if they have one. |
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Desert Hot Springs (Palm Springs area), CA | I love it when my E3 sings! |
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Central Illinois | Tires are a wear item so I doubt the warranty will cover it. |
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Iron Butt
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Peru, IN | I'm one of the few who neither loves nor hates them. I don't think they feel very sure footed but they don't slip and slide, either. I have just short of 4k miles on mine (should turn over 4k tomorrow) and they're still quiet. I just don't feel as confident with them as I have with some others in the past. Once the rear wears out, I go dark. When the front wears out (or if I get a good lottery ticket), I'll replace the E3 with an Avon. It's not because I hate the E3s but because I feel there are better choices out there for the kind of riding I do. |
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Visionary
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So Cal | You need more air in the tire. Mine was wearing faster on the left side. I added a couple of more psi and it's wearing in the center now. About 38-40 psi. |
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Calgary, AB, | I agree on keeping tire pressures UP. I just changed both my original E3's at about 13500 miles, they were original on my '08 but also pretty much done. I went E3 again, and the tire guy said to run rear 42, and front no lower than 39, better yet at 40. So that is what I'll do. I had been usually at 37-8/ 38-40 but he said they are quite sensitive to pressure, given also the big weight of the bike. |
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Tourer
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Moravia, IA | Im anal about tire pressure - still couldnt keep the E3 from flattening out or cupping. I tried 2 of em....aint trying to more. |
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New Bohemia, VA | I'm not so diligent to check my air pressure - sometimes the E3 wear a little funny. I've tried 16 of them...ain't trying anything else. 21-22,000 avg on the front tire, 12-13,000 miles avg on the rear. Not seen or heard of any other tire with the life and handling of the D E3s. |
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Central Maryland | I check mine once a week for pressure. Ans there is a great variance (as much as 5psi) between the ambient temperature swings that we go through at this time of year. So trying to maintain a constant; accurate pressure while the tire is cold is aggravating. |
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Visionary
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Sand Rock, AL United States | there is no tire that will last as long as the E3. It last so long that it doesn't even seem viable to me to consider dark siding on the Vision (I have darksided on a different bike). There may be tires that cost more and are more sticky but nothing last as long. I'm poor so I go for longevity. 17,400 on my last rear , over 19K on my last front E3. |
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Moravia, IA | jimtom - 2013-05-02 7:27 AM
there is no tire that will last as long as the E3. It last so long that it doesn't even seem viable to me to consider dark siding on the Vision (I have darksided on a different bike). There may be tires that cost more and are more sticky but nothing last as long. I'm poor so I go for longevity. 17,400 on my last rear , over 19K on my last front E3.
While I agree that's excellent tire wear.....if you've already darksided and are comfortable with it.....well I got 28k out of my Bridgestone Potenza car tire and it wasn't to the wear bars....Im positive it would have easily made 30k.
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Visionary
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Sand Rock, AL United States | aaronrkelly - 2013-05-02 6:33 AM
jimtom - 2013-05-02 7:27 AM
there is no tire that will last as long as the E3. It last so long that it doesn't even seem viable to me to consider dark siding on the Vision (I have darksided on a different bike). There may be tires that cost more and are more sticky but nothing last as long. I'm poor so I go for longevity. 17,400 on my last rear , over 19K on my last front E3.
While I agree that's excellent tire wear.....if you've already darksided and are comfortable with it.....well I got 28k out of my Bridgestone Potenza car tire and it wasn't to the wear bars....Im positive it would have easily made 30k.
I agree, I was knocking on the door of 30K on that bike. I'm just saying , if I got 6K - 8K out of a bike tire like some here do, I would definately find a more lasting option but at over 17K, I'm content to stay with the E3. |
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Puddle Jumper
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| thanks for the input guys. i ill start checking air pressure more often. and yes the flat spot is all the way around the tire.so the tire isnt junk. lots of lfe left in it . i check tire pressure probaly twice aseason. ill start checking it more now. irun 40 in rear and 38 infront |
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Tourer
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Beer Collins, Colorado (there is no fort) | There's a pic of an E3 front tire that looks like what you describe and I had the same wear on my Vision's original front tire. Some good reading too-
http://www.rattlebars.com/tirewear/ |
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Cruiser
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LaGrange, GA | Oldman47 - 2013-04-30 9:52 PM
At 4000 miles I will hate them. No way should anyone ever be looking for replacement tires at a mere 4000 miles. Any even trivially suitable tire should last much longer than that. What about the Metzler tires for that same bike? Maybe they are truly suitable.
I have NO frame of reference on this bike, or any other heavyweight. I have ridden over 100k on sport/sporty bikes. That's my disclaimer.
My Vision came with the Metzelers on it. I can't say how they compare to the E3 (or anything else,) but I'm pretty impressed. They have that feeling of confidence that just lets you naturally ride the bike however you like. Hitting the boards has you concerned with clearance, never thinking about grip. I'm also quite impressed with their lack of cupping, especially the front -- I still brake harder than I should, so I expected a lot of cupping and tread stepping on the front. There's a little, but way less than I thought would be there. I really don't know how long they'll last (I don't even know how old they were when I got it,) but I'm pleased with the performance. Make note, though - I'm not sure they make one with the proper weight rating for the rear. I know mine isn't, but haven't checked to see if they make one yet. I'm pretty small (about 165lbs,) and the wife is small as well (I won't pretend to know her weight, but I know she's hot, so it can't be too much) so I'm not worried about even approaching the limits of weight. If you pack it heavy and tour you might need to think about it, though. |
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Central Illinois | BrandonM7, I have ridden bikes weighing over 850 pounds since 2007. That is my frame of reference. The Yamaha needed a new rear tire at around 12000 and a new front at 18000. The 2010 Electra Glide needed new tires around 15000 miles. The 2011 Road Glide That I presently ride has 14000 and has its original tires on it. I expect them to last at least another 3 or 4 thousand miles for whoever buys my trade-in. Next week I will be on a Vision but I expect the same kind of tire wear as I saw on my other bikes. So far, all of my replacement tires have been ME880s but it seems they are not compatible with the Vision. The Vision tire specs and the ME880s are just too different. It may be an adventure trying to find a good replacement tire.
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Tourer
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Chattanooga, TN | There's a pic of an E3 front tire that looks like what you describe and I had the same wear on my Vision's original front tire. Some good reading too-
http://www.rattlebars.com/tirewear/
Interesting reading, I think I'm ready for bed now, but it was interesting, nonetheless.
Edited by baadawg 2013-05-04 9:12 PM
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Iron Butt
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, WI | I never really thought about it before but on all three of my Victory's I used Dunlop tires.
I did use one Bridgestone, a Potenza but that was for only 2000 miles and I took it off and put a Dunlop Winter Sport on.
I think I have ridden on every type of road, in some extreme weather conditions and the Dunlop's always got me home.
Just put a new E3 on the front and a Winter Sport on the back and the bike feels great! |
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Cruiser
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| There are many factors that give good or bad tire wear. I now have 30,000 miles on my vision and have been through 3 rears and one front (17,000) . Never have gone more than 10,000 on a rear. I like the throttle and I down shift while braking all this grinds the tire down. In New England our tires wear hard on the left side due to the crown in the road. I always keep 42 lbs in the front and rear. Will it sing later in its life... Yes . But I have found that pressure and using all the tire it keeps it to a minimum. Every thread I have read on tires in this forum hasn't convinced me to darkside or use another brand of tire. They have also been consistant and dependable in rain. |
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Westchester Co., NY | I am pretty good at checking my tire pressure but I still replaced my rear E3 at around 7500 miles due to cupping. |
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Bullhead City, AZ | First E3 13500. E3 # 2 & 3 got 15000 out of both of them so at 28500 on the bike I put a Bridgestone on. Now have 8000 on it and it looks new. If I could have gotten 15000 out of the E3 I would still be driving them. |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | efd158 - 2013-05-05 5:09 PM I am pretty good at checking my tire pressure but I still replaced my rear E3 at around 7500 miles due to cupping. I would love to see a picture of this "cupping". My E3s have always had some sort of "cupping" or "scallop", but it has been slight. I've never changed a rear under 12,000 or a front under 21,000 miles. For the price, utility and function, E3s are the best there is...IMHO. |
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LaGrange, GA | Oldman47 - 2013-05-04 4:52 PM
BrandonM7, I have ridden bikes weighing over 850 pounds since 2007. That is my frame of reference. The Yamaha needed a new rear tire at around 12000 and a new front at 18000. The 2010 Electra Glide needed new tires around 15000 miles. The 2011 Road Glide That I presently ride has 14000 and has its original tires on it. I expect them to last at least another 3 or 4 thousand miles for whoever buys my trade-in. Next week I will be on a Vision but I expect the same kind of tire wear as I saw on my other bikes. So far, all of my replacement tires have been ME880s but it seems they are not compatible with the Vision. The Vision tire specs and the ME880s are just too different. It may be an adventure trying to find a good replacement tire.
Good deal -- I wish you well on your search, and hope you keep it public. I want to know the best solution, too. I've always been a HUGE fan of Michelin tires on my sport bikes, I really wish they had something for us. Thanks to the Michelin Pilot series I'm spoiled to REALLY good tires. I want to find something that great for the Vision. Maybe the E3s are great, I dunno - the internet gives equal good and bad reviews, so that's almost useless. The only ride I took on them was the Victory demo bike for about 15 miles. Since you have lots of miles on other tires I look forward to your perspective when your bike comes in --- happy riding, hope you love the Vision. |
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LaGrange, GA | varyder - 2013-05-06 7:54 AM
efd158 - 2013-05-05 5:09 PM I am pretty good at checking my tire pressure but I still replaced my rear E3 at around 7500 miles due to cupping. I would love to see a picture of this "cupping".? My E3s have always had some sort of "cupping" or "scallop", but it has been slight.? I've never changed a rear under 12,000 or a front under 21,000 miles.? For the price, utility and function, E3s are the best there is...IMHO.
The stop-and-go rider gets a lot more cupping than the go-and-go rider -- it wouldn't surprise me if you had less cupping than others. Since you obviously put a lot of miles on that means a good bit of open stretches. You should see my dad's tires on his '08 FXSTC. Doesn't matter what brand he runs, he cups the hell out of them, especially the front. Hard off the red light, hard stop at the next one. Over and over and over, his front tire (skinny) almost looks like it belongs on an ATV.
It's crazy how such different effects can be had when the only real variable is the rider. It's easy to lean back sometimes and wonder "what the heck is this dude doing wrong?" But maybe they aren't doing anything wrong - maybe they're just doing what they enjoy, and they need different tools to do it. |
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New Bohemia, VA | BrandonM7 - 2013-05-06 1:23 PM varyder - 2013-05-06 7:54 AM efd158 - 2013-05-05 5:09 PM I am pretty good at checking my tire pressure but I still replaced my rear E3 at around 7500 miles due to cupping. I would love to see a picture of this "cupping".? My E3s have always had some sort of "cupping" or "scallop", but it has been slight.? I've never changed a rear under 12,000 or a front under 21,000 miles.? For the price, utility and function, E3s are the best there is...IMHO. The stop-and-go rider gets a lot more cupping than the go-and-go rider -- it wouldn't surprise me if you had less cupping than others. Since you obviously put a lot of miles on that means a good bit of open stretches. You should see my dad's tires on his '08 FXSTC. Doesn't matter what brand he runs, he cups the hell out of them, especially the front. Hard off the red light, hard stop at the next one. Over and over and over, his front tire (skinny) almost looks like it belongs on an ATV. It's crazy how such different effects can be had when the only real variable is the rider. It's easy to lean back sometimes and wonder "what the heck is this dude doing wrong?" But maybe they aren't doing anything wrong - maybe they're just doing what they enjoy, and they need different tools to do it.You put that very well. I will say, I have a lot of stop and go since the majority of my miles is commuter miles.
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dunlop e3 tire wearing weird