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Iron Butt
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Manchester, CT | I will be getting my new 2013 VV this week. Before I take it out I would like detail the bike. My bike was built approximately 4 weeks ago. I don't know if Victory paints the bike parts at the time of assembly. If they do, is 4 weeks enough time for the paint to have cured? |
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Iron Butt
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Mt. Vernon, WASH. | The new water based paints and base/clear are bullet proof in hours. Old skool enamels stayed soft for weeks because the oils and chemicals needed time to jell and solidify. If you watch any of the hot rod shows you'll see people leaning on a car that was painted 6 or 7 hours before. Hoods and front clips are removed to prevent accidental scratching.
It should be just fine to do some detailing. |
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Iron Butt
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Peru, IN | SYNSTR - 2013-04-03 12:17 AM
The new water based paints and base/clear are bullet proof in hours.
I see your point and agree with the concept but disagree on the statement. Water based paint (assiming that's what Victory uses) is NEVER bulletproof. It may be cured/dry in hours and "as good as it'll get" but never bulletproof (or even bullet resistant). Hell, if a Victory even sees a bullet, the paint will scratch. If this is the quality all water based paints have, I'm disappointed. I was sort of hoping this was a Vic only thing. |
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Tourer
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| I think the Black bikes are not painted. The plastic used is black . Not sure if they clear coat it.... |
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Cruiser
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Desert Hot Springs (Palm Springs area), CA | Just a word of caution... Only use microfiber cloths. I've found the newer nano wax products work very well. I've only used these on my 2009 Ness and it looks like showroom quality with 22k miles. |
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Tourer
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Sturbridge, Mass | Street Eagle - 2013-04-02 10:13 PM
I will be getting my new 2013 VV this week. Before I take it out I would like detail the bike. My bike was built approximately 4 weeks ago. I don't know if Victory paints the bike parts at the time of assembly. If they do, is 4 weeks enough time for the paint to have cured?
Welcome aboard !
How dirty can it be !!
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Iron Butt
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Mt. Vernon, WASH. | Monkeyman - 2013-04-03 4:08 AM
SYNSTR - 2013-04-03 12:17 AM
The new water based paints and base/clear are bullet proof in hours.
I see your point and agree with the concept but disagree on the statement. Water based paint (assiming that's what Victory uses) is NEVER bulletproof. It may be cured/dry in hours and "as good as it'll get" but never bulletproof (or even bullet resistant). Hell, if a Victory even sees a bullet, the paint will scratch. If this is the quality all water based paints have, I'm disappointed. I was sort of hoping this was a Vic only thing.
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Iron Butt
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Peru, IN | I used "bulletproof" the same way you did. It looked like you meant "strong and able to withstand damage". Let me rephrase.
I see your point and agree with the concept but disagree on the statement.
Water based paint (assuming that's what Victory uses) is NEVER "strong and able to withstand damage". I may be cured/dry in hours and "as good as it'll get" but never "strong and able to withstand damage" (or even "come close" ). Hell, if a Victory even sees "damage coming it's way", the paint will scratch. If this is the quality all water based paints have, I'm disappointed. I was sort of hoping this was a Vic only thing.
That work better for ya?
Edited by Monkeyman 2013-04-03 5:29 PM
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Visionary
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| The paint job was more then likely painted 30 to 40 days before it was ever put on the bike. Paint has to be bone dry just for the people that handle it on the assembly line. |
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Iron Butt
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Mt. Vernon, WASH. | Monkeyman - 2013-04-03 3:28 PM
I used "bulletproof" the same way you did. It looked like you meant "strong and able to withstand damage". Let me rephrase.
I see your point and agree with the concept but disagree on the statement.
Water based paint (assuming that's what Victory uses) is NEVER "strong and able to withstand damage". I may be cured/dry in hours and "as good as it'll get" but never "strong and able to withstand damage" (or even "come close" ). Hell, if a Victory even sees "damage coming it's way", the paint will scratch. If this is the quality all water based paints have, I'm disappointed. I was sort of hoping this was a Vic only thing.
That work better for ya?
OK, obviously you didn't pay attention to the part where I said oil based Enamals take weeks/months to finish gassing out and setting up completely cured which is why you were cautioned not to wash or wax a freshly built or repainted car for a couple of months, back when your TV had 4 channels. Where a two step and a few hours under heat makes the water based stuff 'kick off'.
Go back to separating the fly poop from the ground pepper |
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Iron Butt
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Manchester, CT | Thanks hottierod. I'm going to detail it to get a protective coat of wax on it . Plus I sent my seat out to Marc p to get my seat mockeds he did |
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Iron Butt
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Peru, IN | SYNSTR - 2013-04-03 7:13 PM
Monkeyman - 2013-04-03 3:28 PM
I used "bulletproof" the same way you did. It looked like you meant "strong and able to withstand damage". Let me rephrase.
I see your point and agree with the concept but disagree on the statement.
Water based paint (assuming that's what Victory uses) is NEVER "strong and able to withstand damage". I may be cured/dry in hours and "as good as it'll get" but never "strong and able to withstand damage" (or even "come close" ). Hell, if a Victory even sees "damage coming it's way", the paint will scratch. If this is the quality all water based paints have, I'm disappointed. I was sort of hoping this was a Vic only thing.
That work better for ya?
OK, obviously you didn't pay attention to the part where I said oil based Enamals take weeks/months to finish gassing out and setting up completely cured which is why you were cautioned not to wash or wax a freshly built or repainted car for a couple of months, back when your TV had 4 channels. Where a two step and a few hours under heat makes the water based stuff 'kick off'.
Go back to separating the fly poop from the ground pepper
I read and understood your entire post. You obviously didn't understand mine. My point was that Victory paint (and possibly all water based paint) seems to suck as it's very easily scratched/nicked and it doesn't look very good. |
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Is it safe to detail a brand new Victory?