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Tourer
Posts: 319
| I just changed out my stock bulbs to Sylviana Silverstars. Much brighter. Bulb installation is a nightmare. I had to completely remove my headlight to do the job.I love my Vision.. but thats just plain wrong to disassemble that much body work to do a routine bulb change. |
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Cruiser
Posts: 102
Madison, AL | I just upgraded to the HID light and now I have one bright white light and a couple of yellow ones. Do you have the part number for those Silverstars? |
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Tourer
Posts: 319
| Part number would be H4 ST.....They really work well..... |
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Cruiser
Posts: 98
Santa Maria CA | the Vision comes with H4 55/60 watt bulb. Has any body put a higher watt bulb in ( 60/80 ) will the factory wiring handle the extra watts. Used the 60/80 watts on my VTX, made a big diferents in lighting power. The service manuel dose not show how to change the headlight bulbs. I already have a high beam light out. I want to change to the higher super white H4. |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 849
, FL United States | Believe me , changing the headlight bulb(s) is a job I reserve for the Victory wrench @ my dealership.I watched him have to disassemble almost the whole front end to get to the headlight housing.  Not something I would try on my own, as I'm not good w/ tools. |
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Visionary
Posts: 1324
So Cal | The silverstars have more of a blue/white light that matches the HID a little better. Running a higher watt bulb, I would be more concerned about the lense melting. |
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Tourer
Posts: 319
| Thats why I went with Sliver stars..........I was worried about melting something inside the fairing with a higher wattage bulb. |
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Visionary
Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA | I am very curious how them lights hold out. On the kawasaki forums where i came from people loved them lights but went through a few sets a year! I think on average they went through 2-3 bulbs a year (depending on how much you ride) |
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Cruiser
Posts: 71
Opelika, AL | I HAD installed the Silverstars... one lasted a couple of months... the other lasted until just after I changed the first one... so I changed to the Hella bulbs...
To change the bulbs, first take off the "hood" under the windshield...
-remove two bolts on the back of each turn signal (10 mm)
-remove the 4 bolts at the top of the headlight (two on the turn signals, two bolted in from behind) - don't lose the rectangular nuts from the front of the headlight...
-remove the "belly pan" (2 hex bolts each side under the front tip over) and one center hex bolt
-remove the "grille" from either side of the fairing
-remove the 2 bolts from the bottom of the headlight housing (2 of them were removed to get the grille off)
-pull out gently on your side pieces until they stay popped out
-get the hex key set that came with the bike and use the short ond of the 4mm hex to remove the 2 remaining bolts (mid way up, bolted to the fairing from the back side, the short end of the hex key is the only thing you can get up there to losen them)
-after you make sure you have removed 10 bolts fom the headlight - pop it out and fish it out of the hole
-the turn signals will move forward and come away from the headlight
-your adjustment wheel will need to be fished out from under the mount
-after you replace the bulbs, make darn sure they work and are plugged in properly - you don't want to have to pull all this off again - it's a pisser...
-when putting everything back together - make sure everything is back in place properly before putting in ANY bolts (see above - it's still a pisser)
this has worked for me twice... 2nd time did it in just over an hour
**WARNING** IF YOU HAVE CHROME GRILLE - be extra careful so as not to scratch it... them things cost too much to scratch over a headlight bulb..
Have fun.. call your therapist.. LOL |
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Tourer
Posts: 353
| Banjo - 2008-07-03 7:39 AM
I just changed out my stock bulbs to Sylviana Silverstars. Much brighter. Bulb installation is a nightmare. I had to completely remove my headlight to do the job.I love my Vision.. but thats just plain wrong to disassemble that much body work to do a routine bulb change.
So what you're saying is that the 5 minute instructions mentioned in the owners manual don't work? Or did you not try that first? |
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Cruiser
Posts: 102
Madison, AL | Yep, he is saying that the 5 minute instructions mentioned in the owner's manual don't work. I tried the owner's manual method and unless you have very tiny hands you are not going to get your meat grabbers in that compartment. I removed the air filter and got my hand up in compartment and was lucky to get it back out. I came back in the house and printed the instructions on how to do I the hard way. Put instructions down, went got beer and came to a life inspiring moment. I must make way too much money because I have to agree with CoolHandLuke, I'm going to leave that for my Victory wrench. But at least I have the bulbs already. Like someone else mentioned the degree of difficulty in changing out the headlights (which you might have to do a few times a year going with the silver stars) is just plain wrong. |
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Visionary
Posts: 1436
| I followed the 5 minute book instructions just to see for myself, no problems at all. Might be one of those tolerance difference things, but I'm no small guy and had no difficulty getting the bulbs out and back in.
Once the new headlite assy is installed I'll be trying to install a modulator. That should be a bit more fun, lol..... |
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Cruiser
Posts: 102
Madison, AL | I might try it again but the first try didn't work for me. |
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Tourer
Posts: 400
| I picked up my Vision around November 14th, and my HID is already burned out. Anyone else having problems? How long did yours last? I also have a light out on the touring pack. |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 6
Ostrander, OH | IndyVision,
I picked my Vision up on Dec. 29 and both upper beams went out between 12,500 and 13,000. The lower beam on the right light went out at 13,300. Just one lower beam left on the left side. I should add that I run upper and lower beams with the HID during the day.
I too printed the "hard way" instructions, spent 2.5 hours tonight wrestling the front end and finally got the headlight assembly in my lap. Even then it took by wife holding the assembly with me tugging on the headlight clip/wires/rubber water seal/bulb. No effin' way that that job could be done the way the book says. I now have an hour of reassembly tomorrow night. I'd like to meet the engineer team that designed the headlight assembly/bulb replacement process. |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 6
Ostrander, OH | Autiger2,
Thanks a ton for your instructions. I followed them tonight to change both bulbs out after all but one beam on the left side burned out. As I stated in another post, no effin' way that the procedure in the manual could work. |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 5
| I as well changed my headlight bulbs to silverstars, only to find that they are not intended for motorcycles. They will not take the shock a motorcycle has to deal with. Both bulbs failed within a very short period of time. Ended up ordereing Piaa bulbs - same power, but made for power products like ATV,S and snowmobiles. Work great, end of problems. If you go to your owner,s manual, it will tell you how change the bulbs without takeing off the body work. The air filter has to be removed though. Hope this helps. Murray |
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Visionary
Posts: 1290
Ruskin, Fl | How are the Piaa bulbs compared to OEM? Brighter, Blue, ...? |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 5
| Hi Michael. The Piaa bulbs are ultra white, more of natural daylight color. Go to the Piaa homepage, scroll down to powersports, click bulbs. This gives you a discription. I use H4 Xtreme white anti vibration. Great lights. Murray |
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Tourer
Posts: 432
Gettysburg, 2008 Tour Premium | I don't have a Vision---yet--- but would offer the suggestion any bulbs replaced be ruggedized or heavy duty H4 bulbs. These are especially to be in aplications where there is vibration or shock. They usually have a slightly less output, but not enought to be concirned about. Hella I know makes some as well as PIAA. I order all things lighting from Susquehanna Motorsports at www.ralleylights.com. They have a bunch of different H4 bulbs and I use there higher wattage ones for some aplications but if the bulbs are that time consuming to change I would stick to the longest lasting bulbs available. |
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Tourer
Posts: 404
San Antonio, TX United States | Glad i dont have huge hands like some. Mine are not small by no means, but all i have had to do it remove the air filter, after that, no problem to change the light bulbs. |
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