holding up to hard riding
Allaire5
Posted 2012-11-14 7:16 AM (#126726)
Subject: holding up to hard riding


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 47
I'm not checking riders mileage. Just wondering how the bike is holding up to hard miles. Bought my 11 VV in March and have put 17k on it, this is not unusual but my miles are hard miles. I pound on this bike constantly, particularly in twisties. I have had no issues other than excessive tire wear. Just wondering how the bike is holding up for others with similar riding styles that have higher mileage than me.
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cw1115
Posted 2012-11-14 7:30 AM (#126727 - in reply to #126726)
Subject: Re: holding up to hard riding


Visionary

Posts: 1290
Ruskin, Fl
I had two 2008s. Bought the first new and it was totaled with 35K. I ride pretty hard although not too many twisties in this part of Florida. It's replacement had 18K on it when I got it. Pretty sure they were easy miles. I added another 36,000 miles the way I ride. No issues except tires and brake pads
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varyder
Posted 2012-11-14 7:39 AM (#126728 - in reply to #126726)
Subject: Re: holding up to hard riding


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
All I can say is that this bike is made to be ridden. Out of all big bike owners I probably spend less time maintaining the bike than most. There are plenty that have put harder miles on their bike, like Rollin' riding to Alaska, as well a few others doing Iron Butts, etc. Tire wear, if that is your concern, I don't care, as long as I get at least 12,000 out of the rear tire, and 22,000 out of the front, anything more is a plus. I'm a daily rider and have a 32 mile commute on the interstate, mostly, and I ride like I'm on a mission. Well, I've back off some recently, but I still make time. I'll be starting my 6 winter on the Vision and may only missed a hand full or two days of riding due to whether. The bike is still holding up fine after 5 years this month. In Harley years that's like 43 years...
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cw1115
Posted 2012-11-14 7:54 AM (#126729 - in reply to #126726)
Subject: Re: holding up to hard riding


Visionary

Posts: 1290
Ruskin, Fl
+1 Varyder
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jimtom
Posted 2012-11-14 9:02 AM (#126732 - in reply to #126728)
Subject: Re: holding up to hard riding


Visionary

Posts: 1308
Sand Rock, AL United States
varyder - 2012-11-14 6:39 AM

In Harley years that's like 43 years...


That still cracks me up!
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Rollin'
Posted 2012-11-14 9:16 AM (#126733 - in reply to #126726)
Subject: Re: holding up to hard riding


Iron Butt

Posts: 825
, WI
Some hard miles on a Victory - Some of the longer rides -

On my Vegas - 1500 miles in less than 24 hours. 48 states (8000 miles) in less 10 days ride.

Kingpin - 49 states (8800 miles) in less than 10 days. The full ride was 11,907 miles in 16 days and included over 5000 miles in less than 5 days.

Vision - 2047 miles in 34 hours and Key West, FL to Prudhoe Bay, AK in 7 days and 10 hours, this ride included 100's of miles of gravel roads.

I have never had a problem with any of the bikes on these rides.
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jimtom
Posted 2012-11-14 9:24 AM (#126734 - in reply to #126726)
Subject: RE: holding up to hard riding


Visionary

Posts: 1308
Sand Rock, AL United States
almost 18K since May 25th 2012 on my Vision. 1503 miles in 23 hours and 56 minutes. Almost 6000 miles in 5 days in August in 105 heat and 46 degree morning. Not much twistie or hard throttle just riding that included hours of 80mph riding between gas stops.
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willtill
Posted 2012-11-14 9:53 AM (#126737 - in reply to #126726)
Subject: Re: holding up to hard riding


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
I got to tell you.. My Vision is the mostr carefully ridden out of the two other bikes that I own. My commute is 104 miles daily, but it is almost all highway and I ride her smoothly. Want this one to last. From living vicariously through Varyders posts and experiences with his; this bike may just outlast me.
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Rollin'
Posted 2012-11-14 11:18 AM (#126747 - in reply to #126726)
Subject: RE: holding up to hard riding


Iron Butt

Posts: 825
, WI

I was careful.

 

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baadawg
Posted 2012-11-14 11:27 AM (#126748 - in reply to #126726)
Subject: Re: holding up to hard riding


Tourer

Posts: 499
Chattanooga, TN
Nice shot, Rollin'!
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Allaire5
Posted 2012-11-14 2:28 PM (#126753 - in reply to #126726)
Subject: Re: holding up to hard riding


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 47
thanks for the input. Wow I can only wish for 22/12 on the front and rear. I'm getting 12/8 and I always check my tire pressure. Time to check out some other tires besides Elites. Nice pic Rollin, where is that. Harley years, thats funny, thats why I traded my Ultra Classic
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Rollin'
Posted 2012-11-14 3:19 PM (#126755 - in reply to #126753)
Subject: Re: holding up to hard riding


Iron Butt

Posts: 825
, WI

Allaire5 - 2012-11-14 2:28 PM thanks for the input. Wow I can only wish for 22/12 on the front and rear. I'm getting 12/8 and I always check my tire pressure. Time to check out some other tires besides Elites. Nice pic Rollin, where is that. Harley years, thats funny, thats why I traded my Ultra Classic

 In Alaska on the Dalton Highway about 250 miles north of the Arctic Circle.

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victoryvisiontour
Posted 2012-11-14 3:23 PM (#126756 - in reply to #126726)
Subject: RE: holding up to hard riding


Iron Butt

Posts: 763
Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis)
40k miles and this is my list of replacement parts. I am on my:
2nd set of spark plugs
3rd set of brake pads
2nd set of brake rotors front and rear
3rd set of tires

I consider all the above common wear items except for the rotors. They didn't wear, they got loose and wobbly at the rivets. Hopefully Victory has fixed this. The new rotors are slightly different.

Tire wear is expected, but seems like they wear fast on the Vision. I attemped to get 25k out of the E3, but I failed. At 15k they were close to the wear bars. The pic below shows what they looked like with 22,878 miles on them. I checked the tires before a ride one Saturday morning. No cords showing. Rode 278 miles. Check tires again when I returned home. Cords were worn though all around the tire, front AND rear both.

Other than rotors coming loose and excessive tire wear, I feel the Vision is holding up good so far.

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willtill
Posted 2012-11-14 4:45 PM (#126760 - in reply to #126756)
Subject: RE: holding up to hard riding


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
victoryvisiontour - 2012-11-14 4:23 PM

40k miles and this is my list of replacement parts. I am on my:
2nd set of spark plugs
3rd set of brake pads
2nd set of brake rotors front and rear
3rd set of tires

I consider all the above common wear items except for the rotors. They didn't wear, they got loose and wobbly at the rivets. Hopefully Victory has fixed this. The new rotors are slightly different.

Tire wear is expected, but seems like they wear fast on the Vision. I attemped to get 25k out of the E3, but I failed. At 15k they were close to the wear bars. The pic below shows what they looked like with 22,878 miles on them. I checked the tires before a ride one Saturday morning. No cords showing. Rode 278 miles. Check tires again when I returned home. Cords were worn though all around the tire, front AND rear both.

Other than rotors coming loose and excessive tire wear, I feel the Vision is holding up good so far.



I'm impressed!
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MaddMAx2u
Posted 2012-11-14 7:06 PM (#126773 - in reply to #126726)
Subject: Re: holding up to hard riding


Iron Butt

Posts: 880
Orlando, FL
Impressed willtill? I'm not. Why would anyone risk life and limb riding so far past the wear bars?

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victoryvisiontour
Posted 2012-11-14 7:58 PM (#126786 - in reply to #126773)
Subject: Re: holding up to hard riding


Iron Butt

Posts: 763
Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis)
MaddMAx2u - 2012-11-14 8:06 PM

Impressed willtill? I'm not. Why would anyone risk life and limb riding so far past the wear bars?



The E3 is a rigid tire. I have ridden 21 miles with zero pressure in it (not the one in the pic, but another E3). In a straight line I could not notice a difference. In a fast turn there was little difference. Slow turns made the handle bars wobble, but the bike was still very rideable. I don't worry about getting a flat after I experienced first hand how well these tires stay on the rim and don't flex much when flat. I see them as very safe tires. I wouldn't intentionally ride with cords showing. The cords appeared during the ride. Not much I could do 60 miles from home. Once again they proved their robustness by getting me home even though they were in such bad shape. They earned my confidence so I got another set.

Edited by victoryvisiontour 2012-11-14 8:24 PM
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jimtom
Posted 2012-11-15 5:18 AM (#126810 - in reply to #126786)
Subject: Re: holding up to hard riding


Visionary

Posts: 1308
Sand Rock, AL United States
I have 18/13 rear/ front right now. Front needs replacing (cupped) but still has some life
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willtill
Posted 2012-11-15 5:41 AM (#126811 - in reply to #126773)
Subject: Re: holding up to hard riding


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
MaddMAx2u - 2012-11-14 8:06 PM

Impressed willtill? I'm not. Why would anyone risk life and limb riding so far past the wear bars?



I don't think he had a choice at that point; during his ride. Still the tire got him home..

Edited by willtill 2012-11-15 5:43 AM
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jimtom
Posted 2012-11-15 6:21 AM (#126812 - in reply to #126811)
Subject: Re: holding up to hard riding


Visionary

Posts: 1308
Sand Rock, AL United States
I've ridden my rear tire to the threads/belts several times over the years. Yes, I understand it's not a recommended practice.
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varyder
Posted 2012-11-15 6:53 AM (#126816 - in reply to #126726)
Subject: Re: holding up to hard riding


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
I plead the fifth...
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dr_reloader
Posted 2012-11-15 5:03 PM (#126851 - in reply to #126816)
Subject: Re: holding up to hard riding


Tourer

Posts: 537
, FL United States

varyder - 2012-11-15 6:53 AM I plead the fifth...

 lol

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sburkett199
Posted 2012-12-09 9:15 PM (#128235 - in reply to #126726)
Subject: Re: holding up to hard riding


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 28
Ft Worth Texas
Dude nice cords!!!!
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victoryvisiontour
Posted 2012-12-09 10:25 PM (#128237 - in reply to #126756)
Subject: RE: holding up to hard riding


Iron Butt

Posts: 763
Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis)
victoryvisiontour - 2012-11-14 4:23 PM

40k miles and this is my list of replacement parts. I am on my:
2nd set of spark plugs
3rd set of brake pads
2nd set of brake rotors front and rear
3rd set of tires

I consider all the above common wear items except for the rotors. They didn't wear, they got loose and wobbly at the rivets. Hopefully Victory has fixed this. The new rotors are slightly different.

Tire wear is expected, but seems like they wear fast on the Vision. I attemped to get 25k out of the E3, but I failed. At 15k they were close to the wear bars. The pic below shows what they looked like with 22,878 miles on them. I checked the tires before a ride one Saturday morning. No cords showing. Rode 278 miles. Check tires again when I returned home. Cords were worn though all around the tire, front AND rear both.

Other than rotors coming loose and excessive tire wear, I feel the Vision is holding up good so far.



No one noticed that the wear is all on one side. On the left side as a matter of fact. The front tire is the same. The left side motorcycle tire wear myth is absolutely true!
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johnnyvision
Posted 2012-12-10 6:25 PM (#128265 - in reply to #126726)
Subject: Re: holding up to hard riding


Visionary

Posts: 4278
I found this and it tells about why left side of tire wears more and tells about cupping. Not bad reading.
http://www.rattlebars.com/tirewear/
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diamonbird
Posted 2012-12-10 7:35 PM (#128267 - in reply to #128265)
Subject: Re: holding up to hard riding


Cruiser

Posts: 251
Mechanicsville, VA United States
I changed out a friends Rear E3 off his Vision and it was down into the wear bars so I took a drill and a 1/2" drill bit and drilled holes in the spent tire and I was amazed to see how thick the rubber is after getting to the wear bars........it was close to 3/8's " thick.........the tires on my KP I drilled them too and there was less then a 1/4" if that........I think the E3's are bad ass and you can run them at least 1,500 pass the wear bars.
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victoryvisiontour
Posted 2012-12-10 10:03 PM (#128273 - in reply to #126726)
Subject: Re: holding up to hard riding


Iron Butt

Posts: 763
Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis)
I ran mine 8k past the wear bars. The cords showed up in last 200 miles. I will say that the E3's handle way better than the wore out ones. The bike ficks from side to side much easier. Road unevenness (center of lane is higher) has no affect as it did with worn tires. I did like, however, how the bike would almost stand upright on its own.
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