goat813 - 2012-11-10 7:37 PM kris1956 - 2012-11-10 6:35 PM If there's anyone doing them near Dallas please let me know. Thanks If you want to drive out to Weatherford which is about 52 miles west of the Dallas line then yes, there are people doing them near Dallas.

 Whats the name of the shop? and thanks.

Vicbuilder - 2012-11-11 8:35 AM kris1956 - 2012-11-11 5:29 AM Rylan, dealer here said he had to remove the engine and rear swing arm, 22 hours. I told him there was a much easier and cleaner way to install them and he said he knows this. He doesn't have any interest unless he can yank the motor, no money in it. If that's what he wants to do that's fine. In a year or two when I'm ready for a new bike I won't have any interest in buying from him. I'll probably install them myself after the first of the year. Tell your dealer "Thanks You!" from me!!! This kind of dealers attitude keeps me busy 12hrs a day 6 days/week picking up his lost business. No wonder I'm scheduling weeks out in this economy! Personally I'd rather treat 10 people fairly, and make a nice profit rather than brush off 9 people so I can rake the 10th over the coals to make the same profit.

 I ran new car dealers before I retired and I'm looking at buying a place. I always told my people that we cannot make a living off home runs. Keep hitting singles and we'll always be up to bat. I've considered opening a Vic repair shop as there doesn't seem to be anyone in my part of the world that really cares about service. 

kevinx - 2012-11-12 2:03 PM jjp53 - 2012-11-12 2:50 PM Hey Kevin do you also work on HD's Not on the road....

 I thought everyone worked on Harleys on the road.

Here are a few numbers for you to consider. The first dyno was after adding a top air filter, VFC III, intake plate/spacer and tune in Daytona at sea level.

 The next dyno shows the same set-up with the addition of VM I cams and D&D exhaust. If I had it to do over again, I'd have done it all at once and saved a few hundred bucks, but it is neat to see the difference between the two.

After Top Filter Intake Spacer VFC III.jpg (18KB - 4 downloads)

After Cams and D&D Slip Ons.jpg (19KB - 2 downloads)

Nice. When the snow is deep, you need to send your ECU to Lloyd for a reprogram. Ronnie

Ya, I'm doing the PC-V next, debating on getting the rev extended to 6500 rpm. As you can see, where it was petering out above 4500 rpm, it is now still making power up to the limit at 5500 rpms. I know I could have Lloydz tweak the ecu. What else will he do besides extend the rpm range on the ecu? If that is all, I think I'll stick with the PC-V which overrides the ecu anyway.

kevinx - 2012-11-13 7:55 PM johnnyvision - 2012-11-13 7:36 PM I wounder how long it takes to do cams and a tuner on a bike. Do you guys pull body work to make it easy on him. Has to be a good 3 hours to jack up rear frame pull rocker box's and pulling old ones and putting in new ones. Now adding tuner must be a hour an a half. I wounder how far off I am. Now I'm guessing body work is off mind you. I could get it done in a week. All plastics stay in place. Depending on how many I have done and how I'm feeling at the moment. I have don the whole thing in as little as 2 hours start to finish with VFC and top filter. Though typically I am in the 3 hour range. Mind you this is all done with tools laid out; with several tools I use only for these jobs, and a HIGHLY refined technique. It has taken me a long time to trim down the time to where I am now

 Thanks for the info Kevin, if I decide to install the cams myself it's nice to know I don't have to pull the plastic. If It takes you two hours I can probably do it in two days.