NEVER AGAIN
Blackjack
Posted 2012-09-03 6:26 AM (#122801)
Subject: NEVER AGAIN


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Cottage Grove, Mn
Went on a group ride in the beautiful Wisconsin county side and it was spoiled by three glass A$$ Harley riders who absolutely insisted on stopping every 50 miles to stretch their legs and get the numbness out of their backsides. One actually left the trip early because his backside hurt so badly.
WTH is up with that? On the bright side one did comment that they didn?t have all the leg room and comfort the Vision has.
Never again; the glass A$$?s will have to find their on ride.


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Man314
Posted 2012-09-03 7:19 AM (#122802 - in reply to #122801)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


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Spirit Lake IA "Birthplace of Victory Motorcycles"
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XRsteve
Posted 2012-09-03 7:47 AM (#122804 - in reply to #122801)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
It WAS the riders not the bikes, yeah a EG or RG is not as comfortable as a VV but they arent't THAT bad. I just got back from a 7000+ mile trip with 5 other guys all on HD baggers, we stopped every 150-180 miles for gas. No complaints from them or me. Woulda gone 200+ between stops except one bike had a 5 gallon tank.........

Oh Yeah, traded with a friend for about 350 miles one day, he only said "Man this thing is comfortable and it'll haul ass too" ..........

Edited by XRsteve 2012-09-03 7:49 AM
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Double Vision
Posted 2012-09-03 7:47 AM (#122805 - in reply to #122801)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


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I loathe group rides, and it's not just HD riders.
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varyder
Posted 2012-09-03 7:50 AM (#122806 - in reply to #122801)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
I'm never one to get out and ride much, but I do like to ride just for the fun of it. When I have rode with someone riding something other than a Vision, I expect the frequent. Gold Wingers will want to stop every hour for "safety" reason. Harley riders will want to stop because of fuel or comfort reason. The only exception to that was when I rode along with a Navy Seal on his Harley. We both got about the same distance on a tank of gas, and would stop every 2 1/2 hours. He endured the pain, because an "Iron Butt" was suppose to hurt. We were doing it for a worthy cause also. So, yes, you have to ride their ride, or ride alone or find another Vision rider to ride with.
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XRsteve
Posted 2012-09-03 7:51 AM (#122807 - in reply to #122805)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
Double Vision - 2012-09-03 7:47 AM

I loathe group rides, and it's not just HD riders.


Me too, got over that "group ride Thing" along time ago, just ride with your friends, much more fun........
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varyder
Posted 2012-09-03 8:28 AM (#122811 - in reply to #122807)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


Visionary

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New Bohemia, VA

XRsteve - 2012-09-03 8:51 AM Double Vision - 2012-09-03 7:47 AM I loathe group rides, and it's not just HD riders. Me too, got over that "group ride Thing" along time ago, just ride with your friends, much more fun........

But, you're not a biker unless you put on the leathers and go hang out somewhere the rest of the day after a 30-minute ride.

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Rollin'
Posted 2012-09-03 8:32 AM (#122812 - in reply to #122801)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


Iron Butt

Posts: 825
, WI
It was the riders.
More Iron Butt rides have been completed on Harley's than any other manufacturer.
A lot of records have also been set by riders on Harley's. - http://www.ironbutt.com/rides/rideslogin.cfm

The most miles in one year - 141,757 miles in less than one year - HD-FXPT

Over 20,000 miles in less than 20 days - One bike on that list - HD
Over 30,000 miles in less than 30 days - Four bikes on that list and two are HD's.
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varyder
Posted 2012-09-03 8:53 AM (#122814 - in reply to #122801)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
When I did the RedWing19 there were a lot of Harleys, some where modified just to do Iron Butts. But there you go Steve, bringing facts into the picture. Of course, it's the rider.

When I attempted documenting my first Iron Butt, I did about 1,037 miles in 19 hours on my 84 Gold Wing. It hurt, and I was tired and I was glad to see 1,000 miles when I got to Baton Rouge. Two years later I have my Vision and I make the same trip and I'm in Winnie, Tx after 19 hours, some 1,250 miles and I didn't want to stop. The prevailing winds and storms led me to stop at Winnie for the night. Found out the next day the interstate had flooded and would have been passible. Same rider, same trip, same determination, two different bikes.

While I do all the steps for the trip on the Gold Wing, I've never sent in the paper work.

I would love to have the opportunity to roll 141,757 miles in one year.
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rdbudd
Posted 2012-09-03 10:32 AM (#122815 - in reply to #122814)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


Visionary

Posts: 1632
Jasper, MO
Yep, it was the riders and not the bikes. That said, I have never found a more comfortable bike than the Vision. The GL1500 and GL1800 Goldwings come close. Their only downfall comfort-wise is the fixed foot position, which sneaks up on us older riders pretty quickly. I have friends who can log the miles on their Ultra Glides with the best of them too, but as someone already mentioned, the HD and Goldwing riders always want to stop for a stretch before I'm ready to on my Vision. I can make them hurt. It ain't me--it's the bike.

We've swapped bikes a few times and they have admitted that the Vision is more comfortable than either the HD or Goldwing. It's a toss-up as to which group is more brand loyal. Neither are willing to give up their choice in rides. The GW riders are as stubborn and drink as much Kool-Aide as the HD riders. Their loss, but that is what lets both HD and Honda sell the same bike for 12+ years. To be fair, the Vision is so good that Victory could probably sell the same basic bike for a dozen years too, and probably will.


Ronnie
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DTWOR
Posted 2012-09-03 1:43 PM (#122827 - in reply to #122806)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 46
Western Wyoming
varyder - 2012-09-03 7:50 AM

Harley riders will want to stop because of fuel or comfort reason.


Seems like they can't pass up a strip club either.Seriously though not all are wooses,or posers,lots of hard core Harley riders.Funny thing they're the ones who really appreciate the Vision for what it is and not necessarily the looks. I love riding with my Harley bretheren,Vicsters or solo,doesn't matter.


Edited by DTWOR 2012-09-03 1:53 PM
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varyder
Posted 2012-09-03 2:22 PM (#122829 - in reply to #122801)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
Yessir! I will agree. I know some true to the bone riders also, just don't get to ride with them or see them often. Those are the ones who really appreciate the passion of riding. I met another one the other day that I hope to ride with, when he gets his Victory. He rode many years on various Harley's and does an average of 20,000 miles or more. Right now he's got other things to contend with, personal issues and family problems. He wants to get back in the saddle again. We had an elevator conversation, then a continued foyer coversation on Victory. He knows the Vision and did reading up on them because he knew me as "that guy that rides all the time." He commented that it must be comfortable and that is what he is shooting for. He's too old, my age, to be putting up with all the pain of riding.
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Rollin'
Posted 2012-09-03 3:04 PM (#122830 - in reply to #122801)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


Iron Butt

Posts: 825
, WI
I forgot one -

The most miles (documented) on the same bike - 1,005,830 miles in 19 years on a 1991 HD FXRT.

He's the same guy that rode 141,757 miles in a year. He also rode 104,678 miles in 2004.
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XRsteve
Posted 2012-09-03 3:34 PM (#122833 - in reply to #122830)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
Rollin' - 2012-09-03 3:04 PM

I forgot one -

The most miles (documented) on the same bike - 1,005,830 miles in 19 years on a 1991 HD FXRT.

He's the same guy that rode 141,757 miles in a year. He also rode 104,678 miles in 2004.


I think I met this dude down at Daytona a couple years ago. If it's the same guy, he says he changes engines about every 200,000 miles on average.....It was a HD FXRT.
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varyder
Posted 2012-09-03 3:48 PM (#122835 - in reply to #122801)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
I think my Freedom will go to 300,000 miles... still doing good at near hundred and a quarter.
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Rollin'
Posted 2012-09-03 4:00 PM (#122837 - in reply to #122833)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


Iron Butt

Posts: 825
, WI

XRsteve - 2012-09-03 3:34 PM Rollin' - 2012-09-03 3:04 PM I forgot one - The most miles (documented) on the same bike - 1,005,830 miles in 19 years on a 1991 HD FXRT. He's the same guy that rode 141,757 miles in a year. He also rode 104,678 miles in 2004. I think I met this dude down at Daytona a couple years ago. If it's the same guy, he says he changes engines about every 200,000 miles on average.....It was a HD FXRT.

The rider is David Zien, he's a former Wisconsin State Senator.

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DTWOR
Posted 2012-09-03 4:03 PM (#122838 - in reply to #122835)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 46
Western Wyoming
varyder - 2012-09-03 3:48 PM

I think my Freedom will go to 300,000 miles... still doing good at near hundred and a quarter.




Awsome testament there varyder. Gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling over trading Harley for Vision a year ago.Presently about 17k mi. and love it.
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Blackjack
Posted 2012-09-03 5:38 PM (#122847 - in reply to #122801)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


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Posts: 367
Cottage Grove, Mn
Bike or rider matters little to me all I know is every glass A$$ I have ever known sat atop a Harley
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johnnyvision
Posted 2012-09-03 6:07 PM (#122850 - in reply to #122801)
Subject: RE: NEVER AGAIN


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Blackjack - 2012-09-03 6:26 AM Went on a group ride in the beautiful Wisconsin county side and it was spoiled by three glass A$$ Harley riders who absolutely insisted on stopping every 50 miles to stretch their legs and get the numbness out of their backsides. One actually left the trip early because his backside hurt so badly. WTH is up with that? On the bright side one did comment that they didn?t have all the leg room and comfort the Vision has. Never again; the glass A$$?s will have to find their on ride.

 

Ithink your friends or what ever they are should stay home. Its a shame that they miss such great riding.

If you don't know about these people they ride and have a ton of fun http://tcvr.us/

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JustBob
Posted 2012-09-03 9:52 PM (#122860 - in reply to #122804)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


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Extreme Southern, AZ United States

XRsteve - 2012-09-03 5:47 AM It WAS the riders not the bikes, yeah a EG or RG is not as comfortable as a VV but they arent't THAT bad. I just got back from a 7000+ mile trip with 5 other guys all on HD baggers, we stopped every 150-180 miles for gas. No complaints from them or me. Woulda gone 200+ between stops except one bike had a 5 gallon tank......... Oh Yeah, traded with a friend for about 350 miles one day, he only said "Man this thing is comfortable and it'll haul ass too" ..........

 I agree 100% that it was the riders not the bikes.  My Brothers and I ride many 200+ legs only stopping for gas.  Just need to find you some folks that actually ride, more than just on the weekends once a month.  

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PhantomX
Posted 2012-09-03 10:44 PM (#122863 - in reply to #122801)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


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Posts: 259
Land O Lakes, FL
I agree, my buddy has a 2011 Road Glide Ultra and we did 2400 miles in 5 days, he had no issues at all. Interestingly enough we got EXACTLY the same gas mileage. When we filled up we would be within .1 of a gallon of each other at the pump. Find some new compadres to ride with lol...
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PhantomX
Posted 2012-09-03 10:45 PM (#122864 - in reply to #122801)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


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Posts: 259
Land O Lakes, FL
I agree, my buddy has a 2011 Road Glide Ultra and we did 2400 miles in 5 days, he had no issues at all. Interestingly enough we got EXACTLY the same gas mileage. When we filled up we would be within .1 of a gallon of each other at the pump. Find some new compadres to ride with lol...
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Blackjack
Posted 2012-09-04 8:12 AM (#122876 - in reply to #122850)
Subject: RE: NEVER AGAIN


Tourer

Posts: 367
Cottage Grove, Mn
johnnyvision - 2012-09-03 5:07 PM

Blackjack - 2012-09-03 6:26 AM Went on a group ride in the beautiful Wisconsin county side and it was spoiled by three glass A$$ Harley riders who absolutely insisted on stopping every 50 miles to stretch their legs and get the numbness out of their backsides. One actually left the trip early because his backside hurt so badly. WTH is up with that? On the bright side one did comment that they didn?t have all the leg room and comfort the Vision has. Never again; the glass A$$?s will have to find their on ride.

?

Ithink your friends or what ever they are should stay home. Its a shame that they miss such great riding.

If you don't know about these people they ride and have a ton of fun http://tcvr.us/




Rode with these guy's a couple of times and found then to be kind of clickly.
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jimtom
Posted 2012-09-04 8:47 AM (#122882 - in reply to #122847)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


Visionary

Posts: 1308
Sand Rock, AL United States
Blackjack - 2012-09-03 4:38 PM

Bike or rider matters little to me all I know is every glass A$$ I have ever known sat atop a Harley


Never heard the term glass a$$, hilarious! I'll have to remember that term.
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maddog
Posted 2012-09-04 9:03 AM (#122884 - in reply to #122801)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


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Posts: 185
Nebraska
More than 3 bikes = group ride = cluster Fuck
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Cometman
Posted 2012-09-04 10:36 AM (#122891 - in reply to #122801)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


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Posts: 520
Simi Valley, CA
If gas stops take longer than 5 minutes, then the group is too big.....
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Blackjack
Posted 2012-09-04 3:31 PM (#122919 - in reply to #122882)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


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Posts: 367
Cottage Grove, Mn
jimtom - 2012-09-04 7:47 AM

Blackjack - 2012-09-03 4:38 PM

Bike or rider matters little to me all I know is every glass A$$ I have ever known sat atop a Harley


Never heard the term glass a$$, hilarious! I'll have to remember that term.



That term was widely used in the tire business for someone you could not make happy with the ride of their tires
"He must have a glass ass"
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jimtom
Posted 2012-09-04 3:32 PM (#122920 - in reply to #122919)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


Visionary

Posts: 1308
Sand Rock, AL United States
hahahahaha! cool
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alohaboy
Posted 2012-09-04 5:17 PM (#122927 - in reply to #122801)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


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Posts: 216
Danville, CA
lol. love that maddog.. good one
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8-ball
Posted 2012-09-06 7:24 PM (#123106 - in reply to #122801)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


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Posts: 457
Green Bay, WI United States
I will say this, I ride like the wind but was two up with my Lady and hit a chuck hole just not quite right. She had a sore butt cheek and my back has been a handful all week. My point is, miss the F'n chuck holes. I did not see it soon enough to spare our pain. I do not ride with groups and only two H-d's ever ride next to me. Nothing against H-D but I love doing the throttle roll-ons and leaving them with there bug catching mouths wide open LOL.

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varyder
Posted 2012-09-06 7:31 PM (#123107 - in reply to #122801)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
I still chuckle about the time I was on my way home rolling down the express way and this Harley rider was trying to catch me. I lost him good on the exit as it slalom around to RT 1. He finally caught up to me, and I was wearing my face bandana. As he pulled up along side me at the light he says, "Man, you ride that thing like you stole it!!" I replied, "How do you know I didn't?" With that the light turns green....
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bigwill5150
Posted 2012-09-06 8:21 PM (#123115 - in reply to #122884)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


Iron Butt

Posts: 725
Reno County, KS
maddog - 2012-09-04 8:03 AM

More than 3 bikes = group ride = cluster Fuck


For truth!
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chesshiretuna
Posted 2012-09-07 7:21 AM (#123144 - in reply to #122884)
Subject: Re: NEVER AGAIN


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Posts: 390
maddog - 2012-09-04 9:03 AM

More than 3 bikes = group ride = cluster Fuck


I find the view from near the front of the pack to be beautifull when in a long sweeping curve ,look in the mirrors to see all those bikes leaned over in formation . Has to be one of my thrills. But I do have lots of skilled riders to travel with. Solo riding also has it benefits. My schedule, my speed, no set destination.

Ride often, Ride safe.
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