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Puddle Jumper
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| OK, so Im looking for the best bang for the buck. I want good sound but not so loud I wake the neigbors.
What are your opinions?  I have heard the Thunder sticks, but cant find where to buy them. Then I heard the Adam bombs, also nice. Then I saw a fellow visioner make his own out of a stock set, removing the baffles. Im more confused now!! 
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Cruiser
Posts: 79
| I have been debating a change too. I just want a little more sound than my S1L2 Victory mufflers put out. Problem for me is I need to source the heat shields to make that happen. But I will watch this thread closely.
Money is a bit tight. Maybe after I sell the 1" lowering stuff I have.
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Cruiser
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Houston, Tx | Nascar6 is an option....simple recore of stock pipes. Sounds real nice
I like my Ness Honkers, only loud when you roll on the throttle.
As for the Thunder Sticks...pretty sure you can get them from Lloydz |
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Iron Butt
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, WI | Another option - http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7527&start=1 . |
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Cruiser
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Conneaut, OH | Get witchdoctor pipes you will not be sorry you did |
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Visionary
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| S1's are pretty quiet for sure.
I have been thing of blocking off the cross over cause I feel we have a 2 into 1 right now. I barley hear any thing out the left side and that side never pops.
You can listen all you want to the exhaust on youtube but you hear to much motor sound and not true exhaust sound. |
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Puddle Jumper
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| Baffeled or not? |
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Cruiser
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Princeton, MN | Adam bombs out of michigan rock,,,,re baffled my L2s with 2.5inch spiral louvered baffle and they rock,,lots of compliments!! And only about $250 too! Check em out.. http://superflowmufflers.com/ |
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Tourer
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Chattanooga, TN | I put my money on the D&D slip ons and haven't been disappointed. Love the sound, not obnoxiously loud, definitely louder than stock, but no metallic valve sounds from the exhaust like some have, just a deep mellow rumble. |
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Iron Butt
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| hulign - 2012-08-28 11:08 PM I have been debating a change too. I just want a little more sound than my S1L2 Victory mufflers put out. Problem for me is I need to source the heat shields to make that happen. But I will watch this thread closely. Money is a bit tight. Maybe after I sell the 1" lowering stuff I have. How may miles you have on your pipes? |
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Cruiser
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West Bend, WI | +1 for the Atom Bombs |
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Cruiser
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Land O Lakes, FL | Take a 1/2" hole saw and drill out the baffle. I did my stockers and sounds great and took about 5 minutes... Another thought... |
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Puddle Jumper
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| Phantom, what do you mean drilling out the baffle? |
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Cruiser
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Danville, CA | Love my thunderstix 2 nd pair |
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Tourer
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Moravia, IA | I used this method here:
http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=12324&po...
LOVE it.....I had aftermarket pipes but didnt think they were loud enough.......these are plenty loud when your getting on it.....but mellow out when your cruising....can still here the radio just fine but its got good bark. |
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Cruiser
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Land O Lakes, FL | houndscoach - 2012-08-29 10:10 PM
Phantom, what do you mean drilling out the baffle?
That little hole down the middle of the exhaust, if you take about a 24" extension and I think a 1" or 1.5" steel hole saw and run it down that tube you will come in contact with the baffle wall. When you do, drill and it will knock a hole in it opening up the flow. Right now the air comes down the exhuast and then hits that wall and flows over the outside of that tube (where you just inserted said hole saw), that tube has little tiny holes in it to release the air (and it's usually packed with something like fiberglass) to dampen the sound. When you drill out the baffle more air goes down the exhaust pipe and less air into the fiberglass and out the little holes.
if that makes any sense. Either way you get more noise that way and it sounds pretty good...
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Puddle Jumper
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| Thanks everyone for your input. Im still not positive on which way to go, but I have some great info to guide me. |
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Cruiser
Posts: 188
Tifton, GA | I did the thrush mufflers like listed earlier and really like mine. If you do them and twin sucker kit you will need the stage one ecm flash to get you gas mileage back up. The power increase is great over stock. |
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Tourer
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Spirit Lake IA "Birthplace of Victory Motorcycles" | +1 on Atom Bombs. Nice growl when you throttle. Reasonable rumble at highway speeds! |
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Iron Butt
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| +1 on t sticks. Sick sound and Dyno great. Get them from www.lloydz.com |
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Cruiser
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Flowery Branch Ga | I just did the Witchdoctor Muscle mufflers. Loud when you get on it, mellow enough at cruising to just barely hear the valves and transmission. Cost $200 plus shipping, plus refundable core charge. Easy enough to do at home if you have the time. (I didn't, so I took it to the dealer.) No other stuff needed when you do the install. Other than noise I can't tell the difference from stock. |
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Tourer
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Moravia, IA | If anyone near Moravia, IA.....or is willing to ride.....its really easy to "unbaffle" your stock exhaust. Ride it over.....we can do it in the garage.....a little cutting.....a little welding....not a biggie. |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 14
| I went with drilling out baffle, It sounds great! Saved the money for other goodies!  |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 623
| sold my S1L1's for 250.00...got my t sticks from Lloyds for 530.00 280.00 bones for sweet sound and performance. I listened to all avail. T sticks sung to my soul and make my ride buds envious. good luck |
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Visionary
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Sand Rock, AL United States | I bought my Vision used . Atom bomb exhaust equipped. To be honest, I think I might like it to be a little louder. |
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Iron Butt
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Broken Arrow, OK | jeffmack - 2012-09-05 9:16 AM
sold my S1L1's for 250.00...got my t sticks from Lloyds for 530.00 280.00 bones for sweet sound and performance. I listened to all avail. T sticks sung to my soul and make my ride buds envious. good luckNo idea when, but if I go with new pipes, it will be the T Sticks. |
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Puddle Jumper
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Virginia Beach, VA | We did the same thing to 11 and it sounds great. My buddy says if you get the upgraded LLOYDZ air intake filter, the one under the console that it sounds even better...gonna do mine a few weeks. |
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Visionary
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Ruskin, Fl | I drilled mine out and disconnected the O2 sensors per KevinX's instrustion when I picked up my 2013. I still miss my big honkers, but it cost me $30 for a hole saw and extension (that I get to keep and use again) as opposed to 450 for Honkers. Kevin told me 1 1/8 hole. Sounds way better than stock. I haven't rode behind it yet, but my buddy that like it too loud for my taste says it sounds good from behind when I get on the throttle. |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 26
| Quite frankly, and this is just my opinion, I want the loudest damn pipes I can possibly get!!...what would be considered the LOUDEST pipes anyone has ever heard on a Vision??...so far, I've managed to hear a set of D&D pipes WITHOUT the baffles and they sounded pretty damn loud!...music to my ears...anyone have any other suggestions??.... |
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Tourer
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Moravia, IA | B1gdawg0434 - 2013-03-25 9:17 PM
Quite frankly, and this is just my opinion, I want the loudest damn pipes I can possibly get!!...what would be considered the LOUDEST pipes anyone has ever heard on a Vision??...so far, I've managed to hear a set of D&D pipes WITHOUT the baffles and they sounded pretty damn loud!...music to my ears...anyone have any other suggestions??....
I gutted the stock pipes.....I think its plenty loud. Cost me a couple hours of time, a few beers and a cutting disc or two. |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 26
| Yeah I seen a cpl videos on YouTube about that, but I wasn't sure if anyone has ever done a direct comparison of all the pipes out on the market yet... |
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Fountain Inn, SC United States | This is where a Vision-Riders meetup with Visions that have all the pipe configurations would be ideal. Maybe the AVR! |
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Iron Butt
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Broken Arrow, OK | Agreed. Pipes and cams and new cams and .............................see you in August! |
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Tourer
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New Orleans, La, | I have 3 initials for you.....CFR. |
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Iron Butt
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Peru, IN | I have 3 initials for you, too. J-O-N (aka Witchdoctor). |
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Tourer
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Grand Cane, LA | V92SC, I thought at first CFR went out of business. I still have mine but have since put my stock ones back on. I tried calling CFR, but got no answer. Tried seeing if a friend of mine could get some for his Harley. I guess I'm one of the few that have them. Lucky me!
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Iron Butt
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Broken Arrow, OK | I got a reply awhile back from CFR. They do not make anything anymore for the Vision. Yes, lucky you ! |
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Tourer
Posts: 466
Grand Cane, LA | Well I guess my 15 minutes of fame are over with. They were using my bike for the pics of their muffler on a Vision on their website. |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 12
| Ok I'll bite on this post. Here is my story about pipes and my 08 vision. I started stock, then the S1L2 loved the chrome but too quiet. Then came the Adom Bombs sounded good but I didn't like the chrome shields. I then added cams, fuel controller, intake. I cut the inside out of the S1L2 pipes, sounded ok but at the same time I drilled holes in the honeycomb/catalytic product. The down side was just like KevinX predicted, a loss of a little low end torque in 6th. The sound was good.
I then got another set of S1L2 and wrapped the baffle pipe with fiberglass and zip tied it in place like I'd seen on some high end custom Harley pipes at Sturgis. The end result is the right combination of flow and back pressure for torque. Basically it makes the L1S2 into a straight pipe with the glass to dampen it a bit, the low end torque in 6th is back and the sound is the loudest I've heard on any of the pipes. I do have a hardly used set of Adom Bombs I will sell and a set of L1S2 chromes also for sale. This project is done and I'm very happy on my 08 vision.
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Cruiser
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Flowery Branch Ga | Witchdotors unbaffled Muscle mufflers and took the black filler piece out of the stock exhaust tips. Very low and loud sound. Can make the car alarms give off warning chirps. |
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Cruiser
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Austin Texas Yaaaalll | Another vote for D&D. It is a true muffler/slip on, not a 3/4 heat shield wrapped around a can. |
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Fountain Inn, SC United States | I asked LLoyd (Lloydz Motor Works) what pipes he put on his personal Vision. D&D Slip-ons. He likes the power they give and the sound they make. |
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Tourer
Posts: 494
Akron Ohio area | My buddy, Spiderman, just had a set of Whichdoctor pipes installed and they sound great. |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 26
| I agree on the D&D's personally...they are actual large PIPES and not some small straw with huge heat shields wrapped around!!...my only problem w them is they're not LONG enough!!...if you look at the chrome slash cut pipes on a vision they are 1/2" shy of being flush w the end of the bike/bags...why is that??....I prefer the pipes to extend out past the bags anywhere from a 1/2"-1"...would d&d make a set of custom pipes like that?...or is it gonna hafta be a total one-off custom job??... |
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Tourer
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Chattanooga, TN | Here's a few pics of my D&D's. I haven't heard anything bad about them. Love the slash cut fitting the angle of the bike and they sound great! |
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Tourer
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Chattanooga, TN | G@#*^^n picture size was too big
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Here's a few pics of my D&D's. I haven't heard anything bad about them. Love the slash cut fitting the angle of the bike and they sound great!
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Puddle Jumper
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| Man those are sharp!...I MUST have a set!!!....are they unbaffeled?... |
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Tourer
Posts: 499
Chattanooga, TN | No, there are baffles, but you can see straight through the pipe. Is does a great job getting rid of the valve noise you hear in some pipes but leaves a really nice deep rumble.
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 26
| Update: I purchased a set of D&D slash cut and LOVE them!!!!....they are UNBAFFLED and LOUDDDD!...the only noticeable thing about removing the baffles is the sound....while they are loud as shit , I noticed that the sound is a bit louder out of the right side pipe than the left...primarily bc the right side is more of a straighter shot than the left...I believe there isn't enough back pressure to push exhaust over to the left pipe, so the right is louder...as for performance, it still runs great and I'm willing to lose a small amount of hp for the increase in sound!!...in all, I recommend the D&D's...they're worth the money!....Bigdawg |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 49
Madison/Huntsville, AL | I put the black D&D slash cuts on my black Vision, and I've been ecstatic with the sound. I'm not into loud. I just wanna KNOW they're there, ya know what I mean. The tone is like music. Hat's off to D&D. |
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Visionary
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Sand Rock, AL United States | with baffled D&D's , can you hear the music through external speakers? |
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Tourer
Posts: 324
New Orleans, La, | Yes you can hear. They are similar in sound, IMHO, to the S1L2 pipes. |
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Visionary
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Sand Rock, AL United States | thank you. |
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Puddle Jumper
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Town creek, AL United States | By drilling the baffels will it effect the performance of the bike.good or bad.have a 12 vision and want it just a little louder. |
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