Pipes for Vision
houndscoach
Posted 2012-08-28 10:40 PM (#122482)
Subject: Pipes for Vision


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 14
OK, so Im looking for the best bang for the buck. I want good sound but not so loud I wake the neigbors.
What are your opinions? I have heard the Thunder sticks, but cant find where to buy them. Then I heard the Adam bombs, also nice. Then I saw a fellow visioner make his own out of a stock set, removing the baffles. Im more confused now!!

Edited by houndscoach 2012-08-28 10:48 PM
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hulign
Posted 2012-08-28 11:08 PM (#122488 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 79
I have been debating a change too. I just want a little more sound than my S1L2 Victory mufflers put out. Problem for me is I need to source the heat shields to make that happen. But I will watch this thread closely.

Money is a bit tight. Maybe after I sell the 1" lowering stuff I have.

Edited by hulign 2012-08-28 11:10 PM
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BlueByu
Posted 2012-08-29 9:11 AM (#122504 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 130
Houston, Tx
Nascar6 is an option....simple recore of stock pipes. Sounds real nice

I like my Ness Honkers, only loud when you roll on the throttle.

As for the Thunder Sticks...pretty sure you can get them from Lloydz
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Rollin'
Posted 2012-08-29 9:25 AM (#122505 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: RE: Pipes for Vision


Iron Butt

Posts: 825
, WI

Another option -

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7527&start=1

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conn-e-rot
Posted 2012-08-29 10:36 AM (#122511 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 108
Conneaut, OH
Get witchdoctor pipes you will not be sorry you did
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johnnyvision
Posted 2012-08-29 5:46 PM (#122540 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Visionary

Posts: 4278
S1's are pretty quiet for sure.
I have been thing of blocking off the cross over cause I feel we have a 2 into 1 right now. I barley hear any thing out the left side and that side never pops.
You can listen all you want to the exhaust on youtube but you hear to much motor sound and not true exhaust sound.
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houndscoach
Posted 2012-08-29 6:43 PM (#122545 - in reply to #122511)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 14
Baffeled or not?
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viclvr
Posted 2012-08-29 7:29 PM (#122553 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 92
Princeton, MN
Adam bombs out of michigan rock,,,,re baffled my L2s with 2.5inch spiral louvered baffle and they rock,,lots of compliments!! And only about $250 too! Check em out.. http://superflowmufflers.com/
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baadawg
Posted 2012-08-29 8:12 PM (#122556 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Tourer

Posts: 499
Chattanooga, TN
I put my money on the D&D slip ons and haven't been disappointed. Love the sound, not obnoxiously loud, definitely louder than stock, but no metallic valve sounds from the exhaust like some have, just a deep mellow rumble.
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kris1956
Posted 2012-08-29 8:44 PM (#122559 - in reply to #122488)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Iron Butt

Posts: 1109

hulign - 2012-08-28 11:08 PM I have been debating a change too. I just want a little more sound than my S1L2 Victory mufflers put out. Problem for me is I need to source the heat shields to make that happen. But I will watch this thread closely. Money is a bit tight. Maybe after I sell the 1" lowering stuff I have.

 How may miles you have on your pipes?

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dollarbillwi
Posted 2012-08-29 8:51 PM (#122560 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: RE: Pipes for Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 92
West Bend, WI
+1 for the Atom Bombs
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PhantomX
Posted 2012-08-29 9:24 PM (#122563 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 259
Land O Lakes, FL
Take a 1/2" hole saw and drill out the baffle. I did my stockers and sounds great and took about 5 minutes... Another thought...
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houndscoach
Posted 2012-08-29 10:10 PM (#122568 - in reply to #122563)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 14
Phantom, what do you mean drilling out the baffle?
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alohaboy
Posted 2012-08-29 10:48 PM (#122570 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 216
Danville, CA
Love my thunderstix 2 nd pair
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aaronrkelly
Posted 2012-08-30 1:06 AM (#122572 - in reply to #122570)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Tourer

Posts: 395
Moravia, IA
I used this method here:

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=12324&po...

LOVE it.....I had aftermarket pipes but didnt think they were loud enough.......these are plenty loud when your getting on it.....but mellow out when your cruising....can still here the radio just fine but its got good bark.
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PhantomX
Posted 2012-08-30 6:17 PM (#122610 - in reply to #122568)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 259
Land O Lakes, FL
houndscoach - 2012-08-29 10:10 PM

Phantom, what do you mean drilling out the baffle?


That little hole down the middle of the exhaust, if you take about a 24" extension and I think a 1" or 1.5" steel hole saw and run it down that tube you will come in contact with the baffle wall. When you do, drill and it will knock a hole in it opening up the flow. Right now the air comes down the exhuast and then hits that wall and flows over the outside of that tube (where you just inserted said hole saw), that tube has little tiny holes in it to release the air (and it's usually packed with something like fiberglass) to dampen the sound. When you drill out the baffle more air goes down the exhaust pipe and less air into the fiberglass and out the little holes.

if that makes any sense. Either way you get more noise that way and it sounds pretty good...

Edited by PhantomX 2012-08-30 6:18 PM
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houndscoach
Posted 2012-08-30 6:30 PM (#122612 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: RE: Pipes for Vision


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 14
Thanks everyone for your input. Im still not positive on which way to go, but I have some great info to guide me.
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Liandra
Posted 2012-08-30 7:06 PM (#122617 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 188
Tifton, GA
I did the thrush mufflers like listed earlier and really like mine. If you do them and twin sucker kit you will need the stage one ecm flash to get you gas mileage back up. The power increase is great over stock.
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Man314
Posted 2012-08-31 7:14 AM (#122643 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Tourer

Posts: 575
Spirit Lake IA "Birthplace of Victory Motorcycles"
+1 on Atom Bombs. Nice growl when you throttle. Reasonable rumble at highway speeds!
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jeffmack
Posted 2012-08-31 8:53 AM (#122653 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Iron Butt

Posts: 623
+1 on t sticks. Sick sound and Dyno great. Get them from www.lloydz.com
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wtwhitelaw
Posted 2012-09-02 4:09 AM (#122746 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 262
Flowery Branch Ga
I just did the Witchdoctor Muscle mufflers. Loud when you get on it, mellow enough at cruising to just barely hear the valves and transmission. Cost $200 plus shipping, plus refundable core charge. Easy enough to do at home if you have the time. (I didn't, so I took it to the dealer.) No other stuff needed when you do the install. Other than noise I can't tell the difference from stock.
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aaronrkelly
Posted 2012-09-02 11:36 PM (#122797 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Tourer

Posts: 395
Moravia, IA
If anyone near Moravia, IA.....or is willing to ride.....its really easy to "unbaffle" your stock exhaust. Ride it over.....we can do it in the garage.....a little cutting.....a little welding....not a biggie.
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houndscoach
Posted 2012-09-05 3:49 AM (#122962 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: RE: Pipes for Vision


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 14
I went with drilling out baffle, It sounds great! Saved the money for other goodies!
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jeffmack
Posted 2012-09-05 9:16 AM (#122976 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Iron Butt

Posts: 623
sold my S1L1's for 250.00...got my t sticks from Lloyds for 530.00 280.00 bones for sweet sound and performance. I listened to all avail. T sticks sung to my soul and make my ride buds envious. good luck
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jimtom
Posted 2012-09-05 10:45 AM (#122981 - in reply to #122976)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Visionary

Posts: 1308
Sand Rock, AL United States
I bought my Vision used . Atom bomb exhaust equipped. To be honest, I think I might like it to be a little louder.
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okie vision
Posted 2012-09-05 12:36 PM (#122986 - in reply to #122976)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Iron Butt

Posts: 752
Broken Arrow, OK
jeffmack - 2012-09-05 9:16 AM

sold my S1L1's for 250.00...got my t sticks from Lloyds for 530.00 280.00 bones for sweet sound and performance. I listened to all avail. T sticks sung to my soul and make my ride buds envious. good luck
No idea when, but if I go with new pipes, it will be the T Sticks.
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theogre1969
Posted 2012-12-27 2:38 PM (#128855 - in reply to #122962)
Subject: RE: Pipes for Vision


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 35
Virginia Beach, VA
We did the same thing to 11 and it sounds great. My buddy says if you get the upgraded LLOYDZ air intake filter, the one under the console that it sounds even better...gonna do mine a few weeks.
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cw1115
Posted 2012-12-28 9:32 AM (#128870 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Visionary

Posts: 1290
Ruskin, Fl
I drilled mine out and disconnected the O2 sensors per KevinX's instrustion when I picked up my 2013. I still miss my big honkers, but it cost me $30 for a hole saw and extension (that I get to keep and use again) as opposed to 450 for Honkers. Kevin told me 1 1/8 hole. Sounds way better than stock. I haven't rode behind it yet, but my buddy that like it too loud for my taste says it sounds good from behind when I get on the throttle.
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B1gdawg0434
Posted 2013-03-25 9:17 PM (#133659 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 26
Quite frankly, and this is just my opinion, I want the loudest damn pipes I can possibly get!!...what would be considered the LOUDEST pipes anyone has ever heard on a Vision??...so far, I've managed to hear a set of D&D pipes WITHOUT the baffles and they sounded pretty damn loud!...music to my ears...anyone have any other suggestions??....
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aaronrkelly
Posted 2013-03-25 10:23 PM (#133664 - in reply to #133659)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Tourer

Posts: 395
Moravia, IA
B1gdawg0434 - 2013-03-25 9:17 PM

Quite frankly, and this is just my opinion, I want the loudest damn pipes I can possibly get!!...what would be considered the LOUDEST pipes anyone has ever heard on a Vision??...so far, I've managed to hear a set of D&D pipes WITHOUT the baffles and they sounded pretty damn loud!...music to my ears...anyone have any other suggestions??....


I gutted the stock pipes.....I think its plenty loud. Cost me a couple hours of time, a few beers and a cutting disc or two.
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B1gdawg0434
Posted 2013-03-26 2:47 PM (#133694 - in reply to #133664)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 26
Yeah I seen a cpl videos on YouTube about that, but I wasn't sure if anyone has ever done a direct comparison of all the pipes out on the market yet...
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Jedi Jeff
Posted 2013-03-26 3:30 PM (#133696 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Fountain Inn, SC United States
This is where a Vision-Riders meetup with Visions that have all the pipe configurations would be ideal. Maybe the AVR!
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okie vision
Posted 2013-03-26 4:54 PM (#133706 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Iron Butt

Posts: 752
Broken Arrow, OK
Agreed. Pipes and cams and new cams and .............................see you in August!
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V92SC
Posted 2013-03-26 5:17 PM (#133707 - in reply to #133706)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Tourer

Posts: 324
New Orleans, La,
I have 3 initials for you.....CFR.
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Monkeyman
Posted 2013-03-26 6:08 PM (#133711 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Iron Butt

Posts: 1066
Peru, IN
I have 3 initials for you, too. J-O-N (aka Witchdoctor).
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atvtinker
Posted 2013-03-26 7:46 PM (#133721 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Tourer

Posts: 466
Grand Cane, LA
V92SC, I thought at first CFR went out of business. I still have mine but have since put my stock ones back on. I tried calling CFR, but got no answer. Tried seeing if a friend of mine could get some for his Harley. I guess I'm one of the few that have them. Lucky me!

Edited by atvtinker 2013-03-26 7:50 PM
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okie vision
Posted 2013-03-26 10:44 PM (#133726 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Iron Butt

Posts: 752
Broken Arrow, OK
I got a reply awhile back from CFR. They do not make anything anymore for the Vision. Yes, lucky you !
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atvtinker
Posted 2013-03-27 8:06 PM (#133798 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Tourer

Posts: 466
Grand Cane, LA
Well I guess my 15 minutes of fame are over with. They were using my bike for the pics of their muffler on a Vision on their website.
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bowpro
Posted 2013-03-27 9:45 PM (#133804 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 12
Ok I'll bite on this post. Here is my story about pipes and my 08 vision. I started stock, then the S1L2 loved the chrome but too quiet. Then came the Adom Bombs sounded good but I didn't like the chrome shields. I then added cams, fuel controller, intake. I cut the inside out of the S1L2 pipes, sounded ok but at the same time I drilled holes in the honeycomb/catalytic product. The down side was just like KevinX predicted, a loss of a little low end torque in 6th. The sound was good.
I then got another set of S1L2 and wrapped the baffle pipe with fiberglass and zip tied it in place like I'd seen on some high end custom Harley pipes at Sturgis. The end result is the right combination of flow and back pressure for torque. Basically it makes the L1S2 into a straight pipe with the glass to dampen it a bit, the low end torque in 6th is back and the sound is the loudest I've heard on any of the pipes. I do have a hardly used set of Adom Bombs I will sell and a set of L1S2 chromes also for sale. This project is done and I'm very happy on my 08 vision.



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wtwhitelaw
Posted 2013-03-30 8:00 AM (#133889 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 262
Flowery Branch Ga
Witchdotors unbaffled Muscle mufflers and took the black filler piece out of the stock exhaust tips. Very low and loud sound. Can make the car alarms give off warning chirps.
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swmckinley54
Posted 2013-04-01 7:32 AM (#134021 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 59
Austin Texas Yaaaalll
Another vote for D&D. It is a true muffler/slip on, not a 3/4 heat shield wrapped around a can.
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Jedi Jeff
Posted 2013-04-01 8:33 AM (#134026 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Fountain Inn, SC United States
I asked LLoyd (Lloydz Motor Works) what pipes he put on his personal Vision. D&D Slip-ons. He likes the power they give and the sound they make.
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bigfoot
Posted 2013-04-01 9:21 AM (#134027 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: RE: Pipes for Vision


Tourer

Posts: 494
Akron Ohio area

My buddy, Spiderman, just had a set of Whichdoctor pipes installed and they sound great.

 

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B1gdawg0434
Posted 2013-04-07 1:57 PM (#134368 - in reply to #134027)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 26
I agree on the D&D's personally...they are actual large PIPES and not some small straw with huge heat shields wrapped around!!...my only problem w them is they're not LONG enough!!...if you look at the chrome slash cut pipes on a vision they are 1/2" shy of being flush w the end of the bike/bags...why is that??....I prefer the pipes to extend out past the bags anywhere from a 1/2"-1"...would d&d make a set of custom pipes like that?...or is it gonna hafta be a total one-off custom job??...
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baadawg
Posted 2013-04-07 4:43 PM (#134376 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Tourer

Posts: 499
Chattanooga, TN
Here's a few pics of my D&D's. I haven't heard anything bad about them. Love the slash cut fitting the angle of the bike and they sound great!
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baadawg
Posted 2013-04-07 7:16 PM (#134390 - in reply to #134376)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Tourer

Posts: 499
Chattanooga, TN
G@#*^^n picture size was too big

baadawg - 2013-04-07 5:43 PM

Here's a few pics of my D&D's. I haven't heard anything bad about them. Love the slash cut fitting the angle of the bike and they sound great!


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B1gdawg0434
Posted 2013-04-07 11:01 PM (#134410 - in reply to #134390)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 26
Man those are sharp!...I MUST have a set!!!....are they unbaffeled?...
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baadawg
Posted 2013-04-08 9:03 AM (#134421 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Tourer

Posts: 499
Chattanooga, TN
No, there are baffles, but you can see straight through the pipe. Is does a great job getting rid of the valve noise you hear in some pipes but leaves a really nice deep rumble.

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B1gdawg0434
Posted 2013-11-18 4:46 PM (#148969 - in reply to #134421)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 26
Update: I purchased a set of D&D slash cut and LOVE them!!!!....they are UNBAFFLED and LOUDDDD!...the only noticeable thing about removing the baffles is the sound....while they are loud as shit , I noticed that the sound is a bit louder out of the right side pipe than the left...primarily bc the right side is more of a straighter shot than the left...I believe there isn't enough back pressure to push exhaust over to the left pipe, so the right is louder...as for performance, it still runs great and I'm willing to lose a small amount of hp for the increase in sound!!...in all, I recommend the D&D's...they're worth the money!....Bigdawg
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tmoore
Posted 2013-11-18 9:15 PM (#148982 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 49
Madison/Huntsville, AL
I put the black D&D slash cuts on my black Vision, and I've been ecstatic with the sound. I'm not into loud. I just wanna KNOW they're there, ya know what I mean. The tone is like music. Hat's off to D&D.
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jimtom
Posted 2013-11-19 5:18 AM (#148985 - in reply to #148982)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Visionary

Posts: 1308
Sand Rock, AL United States
with baffled D&D's , can you hear the music through external speakers?
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V92SC
Posted 2013-11-19 7:17 AM (#148988 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Tourer

Posts: 324
New Orleans, La,
Yes you can hear. They are similar in sound, IMHO, to the S1L2 pipes.
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jimtom
Posted 2013-11-19 7:19 AM (#148989 - in reply to #148988)
Subject: Re: Pipes for Vision


Visionary

Posts: 1308
Sand Rock, AL United States
thank you.
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bigdf150
Posted 2013-11-19 11:11 AM (#148993 - in reply to #122482)
Subject: RE: Pipes for Vision


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 19
Town creek, AL United States
By drilling the baffels will it effect the performance of the bike.good or bad.have a 12 vision and want it just a little louder.
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