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Edmonton Alberta, Canada | Picked up a used motorcycle jack yesterday for $50.00. Playing around with it yesterday, really noticed just how bad the rear tire is! Have 2 years, and 19000km(11750m). First 2 rear tires only lasted 17600 miles. The only differences are the first two lost air, while this last tire lost very little in comparision and we rode 2 up 90% of the time. On this last tire we rode maybe 40% 2 up. Has anyone elses riding habbits changed and have gotten the same results. If anything riding 1 up I tend to be more into the throttle and harder into the corners.
Well I am going darkside!!!!! going to order ct tomorrow, so far best price i have found is on dunlop run flat from tire.com. 133.00 plus shipping 38.00. same tire in Canada is 251.00 so far.
If anyone has knowledge of even better pricing please let me know.
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| The rear tire air pressure must be checked regularly the tire will fail early if not I've replaced mine twice due to my fault and only 10,000 miles each time. | |
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New Mexico | Discount Tire
Bridgestone Potenza G019 Grid 195/55R-16 87H BW
$90
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/tires/bridgestone/product/submitPr...
(link may not work as it was specific for my zip)
Plus Doran TPMS really helps me keep the pressure from getting too far out.
http://www.doranmfg.com/PDF/Doran360Mbrochure.pdf
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New Bohemia, VA | It's your decision to go CT, but on a motorcycle tire, around 13,000 is a good average if you take care to maintain the proper pressure. I have rode two up or loaded many, many times through the last 9 or 10 rear tires and always get at least 12,000 out of them, and have gotten up to 15,000 miles. I make sure the pressure is at 41psi. I love the ride of the E3s and the Vision way to much to ever compromise that for an easy way out.
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Iron Butt
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| I recently changed mine after 11k. The left side was worn. I replaced my E3's with Avon Venoms. I like the the handling a bit more and hopefully I won't get the noise you get with E3's after 3-4k miles. | |
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Edmonton Alberta, Canada | Well up here in Canada an E3 mounted is close to 500.00 for just the rear. 2 years ago I paid 450.00 for front and back mounted and installed in Utah. I just want more mileage between changes, quieter, and I will try anything once. If I don't like it, it is a small price to pay, than trying a differnt mt and not liking it it or getting less mileage! I am about 7 hr ride to the closest US dealer.Thanks for the input. | |
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New Mexico | varyder - 2012-08-16 2:46 AM
It's your decision to go CT, but on a motorcycle tire, around 13,000 is a good average if you take care to maintain the proper pressure.? I have rode two up or loaded many, many times through the last 9 or 10 rear tires and always get at least 12,000 out of them,?and have gotten up to 15,000 miles. I make sure the pressure is at 41psi. I love the ride of the E3s and the Vision way to much to ever compromise that for an easy way out.
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The E3s do have a fantastic ride. But...I found there was a break-in period of 200-500 miles, and then their performance started to degrade after about 8k miles, so that great ride for me was not a full 12k.
As for the ct debate, it is a balance of handling characteristics and personal preference. I think the E3s handle better both in straight-aways and in the curves. Quick, responsive, adrenaline producing. Makes the Vision feel like a sports bike. Although I am generally a conservative driver, I do miss that sometimes.
But I believe the ct has better rain management, braking, is smoother & a little quieter. And the performance seems to gets better over the life of the tire. I have scraped the floorboards and am completely comfortable keeping up with (or surpassing) whoever I ride with. Plus less downtime, and the obvious cost difference.
Try it, give it a couple of thousand miles, then decide. Like you said, is easy to change back and you will only be out $150.
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New Bohemia, VA | Boots - 2012-08-16 10:40 AM I think the E3s handle better both in straight-aways and in the curves. Quick, responsive, adrenaline producing. Makes the Vision feel like a sports bike. Although I am generally a conservative driver, I do miss that sometimes. That's why I will never put a car tire on my Vision (unless I ride the alaskan highway), I don't want to miss a thing! Life is too short | |
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| Heat cause tire to loose air. I mean hot weather like have all been dealing with. First of every month I check my tires with out fail. Set at 40 psi and when it was in the high W's out side I would check tires every two week and low and be hold they would be down 4 to 5 pounds. You wouldn't think much of it buy if its 4 pounds this week and in two weeks that would be 8 pounds. With tires coasting so much its up to you how long they last.
I did see where good year is looking at soy bean oil to make tires.
Good gauger not that pencil crap helps.
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Edmonton Alberta, Canada | Ok I am having problems finding ct to fit my bike. So I call for pricing on the E3! everybody sit down now! 391.00, 295.00 one in stock, no stock, 274.97 2 in stock, 264.00 on special, 6 in stock, 370.00 in stock! This is why I am going darkside. I know up here in Canada, motorcycles, atvs, and snowmobiles are considered luxury items so our dealers feel they can rape and pilage! All of our tire sales people want to know what it fits, because they do not show the particular size. lol They can not find victory lol. | |
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elgin mn | 195/55 /re16 love it over 10000 miles in 1 year still has over half of its life letf love it! | |
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New Bohemia, VA | norcan - 2012-08-16 11:51 PM Ok I am having problems finding ct to fit my bike. So I call for pricing on the E3! everybody sit down now! 391.00, 295.00 one in stock, no stock, 274.97 2 in stock, 264.00 on special, 6 in stock, 370.00 in stock! This is why I am going darkside. I know up here in Canada, motorcycles, atvs, and snowmobiles are considered luxury items so our dealers feel they can rape and pilage! All of our tire sales people want to know what it fits, because they do not show the particular size. lol They can not find victory lol. Can Canuks order on line from US suppliers and pay the lower price? Bike Bandit or Ron Ayers and others often have the rear tire at or below $200.00. By the way, the same tires that go on a Gold Wing GL1800 is the same tire for the Vision. But, I'm sure, even at that price you prefer to go car tire. | |
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| kris1956 - 2012-08-16 4:46 AM I recently changed mine after 11k. The left side was worn. I replaced my E3's with Avon Venoms. I like the the handling a bit more and hopefully I won't get the noise you get with E3's after 3-4k miles. I ran Venoms on my Royal Star Venture and my 08 Vision and loved them on both bikes. Much quieter, better handling, and no cupping. Cant wait for the E3s on my 12 Cross Country Tour to wear out so I can install Avons on it! | |
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New Bohemia, VA | savage - 2012-08-17 7:09 AM kris1956 - 2012-08-16 4:46 AM I recently changed mine after 11k. The left side was worn. I replaced my E3's with Avon Venoms. I like the the handling a bit more and hopefully I won't get the noise you get with E3's after 3-4k miles. I ran Venoms on my Royal Star Venture and my 08 Vision and loved them on both bikes. Much quieter, better handling, and no cupping. Cant wait for the E3s on my 12 Cross Country Tour to wear out so I can install Avons on it! On the Avons, how many miles did you get out them on the '08, front and rear? Thanks. | |
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SF Bay Area | As having owned dozens of motorcycles, with 2 of them being Vics for the last 12 years, all I can say is that motorcycles eat tires. It is not just Victory bikes. There are so many variables, like tire pressures, load weight, riding style, tread design, road type, road surface, UV, heat, rubber compound, etc. that it is hard to guesstimate a typical life. On a normal touring type of tire, like on our cruisers, I would expect to get between 8-15k out or a rear MC tire. Cut that in half if it is a sport tire... my wife's Ducati would only get about 5k on a rear tire... maybe.
For me, normal tire rear tire wear on my cruisers would be to have more wear in the center of the rear, and the front is "Pointy" having the sides worn, but not much wear in the center... may have something to do with the fact that I used to ride sport bikes? I normally run 38F/40R, usually rise solo, in the twisties if I have a choice.
FYI, I got 15k on my original stock OEM Dunlop rear tire, so I replaced with the same. I have also run many sets of ME880's on my other Vic, slightly less mileage per tire, but more "grip" in the corners.
Motorcycle tires are expensive, period. Sucks, but fun has its price...
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Western Wyoming | Just replaced the rear E3 @ 16k mi.,the front will go to 20k+ I run 42 lbs, rear 40 lbs, front 1 up with 60 lbs of gear usually and I weigh 235lbs.
Shopped around.pricing,$360-$430 mounted and balanced. I am pretty fanatical about checking my tires and tpms helps considerably.I keep saying I'm going dark side but end getting them replaced on the road where I can find a good deal.had a tire replaced on my co. vehicle and dealer said due to tariffs etc. tire prices have gone up 40% or so the last year. | |
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New Bohemia, VA | buddahead - 2012-08-17 9:45 AM As having owned dozens of motorcycles, with 2 of them being Vics for the last 12 years, all I can say is that motorcycles eat tires. It is not just Victory bikes. There are so many variables, like tire pressures, load weight, riding style, tread design, road type, road surface, UV, heat, rubber compound, etc. that it is hard to guesstimate a typical life. On a normal touring type of tire, like on our cruisers, I would expect to get between 8-15k out or a rear MC tire. Cut that in half if it is a sport tire... my wife's Ducati would only get about 5k on a rear tire... maybe. For me, normal tire rear tire wear on my cruisers would be to have more wear in the center of the rear, and the front is "Pointy" having the sides worn, but not much wear in the center... may have something to do with the fact that I used to ride sport bikes? I normally run 38F/40R, usually rise solo, in the twisties if I have a choice. FYI, I got 15k on my original stock OEM Dunlop rear tire, so I replaced with the same. I have also run many sets of ME880's on my other Vic, slightly less mileage per tire, but more "grip" in the corners. Motorcycle tires are expensive, period. Sucks, but fun has its price... Someone I can agree with. I was always told don't buy anything you cannot afford the upkeep. I was hesitant to buy a "toy" for transportation, but I'm glad I did in retrospect. We are down to two vehicles, my wife's Liberty and my Vision. In looking at the cost to operate both, from a commuting stand point alone, the Vision wins out by $500.00 a year. However, I know I exceed that savings on the Vision by the mini-vacations or visits we will do that wouldn't otherwise do. It always seems to work out when I need tires or other work, so merrily I ride. | |
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Cruiser
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| My Visions eat E3s. They also drink gas. It's part of the cost of doing business on 2 wheels.
I run 38F/41R and we're 2-up and usually loaded up for a trip. I'm lucky to get 10,000 miles out of a set of tires.
I'd rather change my tires 500 miles too soon than 500 miles too late.
To me, the handling of the E3s is so good I wouldn't tinker with changing brands. Who am I to think I know better than tire and motorcycle engineers?
Another plus to the E3s - the Goldwing runs the same tires so you can also get your rubber at a Honda shop. | |
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Edmonton Alberta, Canada | Went on a ride last sat with a good buddy, 62 years old, rode nothing but ridids, current bike 2010 custom ridid, 121. We stopped at one of his old ( 20 years last time he was there) watering holes. 40 ish gent screams in with with 2012 HD, proceeds to tell us " new 103, intake up grade, cam kit, gets 92 hp and 90 #'s of torque". Long story short, he sat with his buddies at the next table and in the conversation with his buddies was talking about how he can not have just anybody change his tires unless they are dont by a " Harley certified wrench or it will void his waranty." I must say HD sure has their followers brain washed or scared that you must return to them for every thing.
Here is is my Visions dearler visit history
New June 2008
June 2008, first oil change (3days old)
April 2009, fist rear tire replacment
sept 2009, issue with radio/ipod control cube
june 2010, second rear, and first front tire
This the only times a Vicory wrench has touched my bike.
I am so glad my father fought in WWII, that I now have the right to have my own opinion, make my own choices, how ever not everyone can and will agree with me! It also give everyone else the the right to be wrong! lol
Just sayin!
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Jasper, MO | Double Vision - 2012-08-18 7:10 AM
To me, the handling of the E3s is so good I wouldn't tinker with changing brands. Who am I to think I know better than tire and motorcycle engineers?
Another plus to the E3s - the Goldwing runs the same tires so you can also get your rubber at a Honda shop.
Honda is now using the Bridgestone Excedra G709/G704 as OEM tires. They are the primary component in the "New and improved ride and handling" of the 2012 Goldwing. Putting them on an older GL1800 has been proven to make the old GW handle just like the new GW. You can get them at all the places catering to the GW too.
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Land O Lakes, FL | I love the Bridgestones, put them on my GW last year and they are fantastic. My E3's are almost done so a set of "stones" will be going on next. It was a night and day difference for the better. The E3's have been very good though but they do sing after about 3-4k miles where the stones start around 8-10 which means it's time for a new set anyway. Maybe I'm anal but I always do front/rear together, you can't put a price on good rubber. | |
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Bullhead City, AZ | I am now on my 4th rear tire only 28500. The first tire got just over 10k when I changed it. I was told that checking the air pressure was a way to make them last longer. I ride almost everyday to work and I check 1 x a week and whenever we go on a trip out of town. Still eats tires faster than I like. It migt be the heat as it is often 100+. I just goot tiired of dropping 600 every time I change tires. Just put a potenza on and after I dropped the air pressure down to 34# I cant tell the differance on the highway or at low speed will try twistys this afternoon. I do know that I dont lock up the back tire as quickk as the E3 | |
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Iron Butt
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Orlando, FL | I'm trying to reach the guy pictured below. I want his tires. Bet they last for 100,000 miles or more!!
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Orlando, FL | Also trying to contact this guy about his tires. Seems there's a trend here~!
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Rancho Cucamonga, CA | If you're going with a knobby tire, then you should have a dirt bike....
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Iron Butt
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Orlando, FL | Nozzledog - 2012-09-09 4:59 PM
If you're going with a knobby tire, then you should have a dirt bike....
A "Dirt" Style Vision~~ Damn Nozzledog, that's a great idea. And those tires would NEVER wear out! And I bet they handle as well as the E3's or Avon's in the corners~! Damn.....I'm going............
DIRT-SIDE!!!!!!!
Some are Just sayin'
I'm Just Laughin'
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