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Puddle Jumper
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Georgia | Has anyone used a EZ Gas Fill that's advertised on this site on their Vision? If so, does it really work? |
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Visionary
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Pittsburgh, PA | If you fill the visions tank too fast you Dont get a full tank, so i fillit at half pressure and i get more into my tank, therefor not needing something like that after all.. |
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Cruiser
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I have two of those one for the Vision and one for the KTM, and they work well.
I usually only use it of the pump has vapor recovery on it where you have to retract a boot to get the pump to work, and in those cases it works great. Run at about half throttle to make sure you get a good fill, let the pump click off, give it one more click for good measure and done.
I leave in in the saddle bag in one of the cubbie holes. |
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Iron Butt
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| Arkainzeye - 2012-07-22 9:30 PM If you fill the visions tank too fast you Dont get a full tank, so i fillit at half pressure and i get more into my tank, therefor not needing something like that after all.. +1 |
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Tourer
Posts: 430
| I have it - and stopped using it. When factoring in the time to take the e z out of its little nylong container, putting it on the fill hole, etc. It was just as fast to not use it. When I did use it no matter how fast or slow I ran the pump it would click off and I would still add 1/2-3/4 of a gallon. Wish it worked better. |
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Cruiser
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| Interesting, I always seem to get more fuel into the tank using the thing as opposed to not using. |
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Puddle Jumper
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Georgia | Thank You All for your replies, I was thinking of getting one but I wanted some feedback before I purchased one. |
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Cruiser
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Land O Lakes, FL | As many times as I filled the Vision I find just running it at near full until it clicks then run it half way slowing to about 1/4 pressure and it will fill right up to the neck with no problem. Basically your just stepping down the pressure as the tank fills to allow the air to expel so you can fill the space with fuel. At 200+ miles on a tank when I fill up I put in about 5 gallons, I've only really pushed it once and put in 5.5 but I was at almost 240 miles on that tank. |
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Tourer
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| So let me understand the logic of this thing.
You (not directed toward anyone in particular) defeat the safety devices and overflows because you can't figure out how use a gas nozzle at lower speeds, or you think it will save you time. Then when you're done using it you put this device that is covered in gas back into your bags that are nice and close to your motor so the most volatile part of gasoline (the vapors) can build up in a sealed environment close to a hot surface.
OR, you have the presence of mind to clean it off (provided the station isn't out of paper towels) which defeats the purpose of the time savings it is suppose to give you. Even if you clean it off there will be some residue on it (or the rag you might carry for convenience), and it will still emit vapors into the bags.
Edited by sgiacci 2012-07-24 7:35 AM
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Tourer
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| sgiacci - 2012-07-24 7:34 AM
So let me understand the logic of this thing.
You (not directed toward anyone in particular) defeat the safety devices and overflows because you can't figure out how use a gas nozzle at lower speeds, or you think it will save you time. Then when you're done using it you put this device that is covered in gas back into your bags that are nice and close to your motor so the most volatile part of gasoline (the vapors) can build up in a sealed environment close to a hot surface.
OR, you have the presence of mind to clean it off (provided the station isn't out of paper towels) which defeats the purpose of the time savings it is suppose to give you. Even if you clean it off there will be some residue on it (or the rag you might carry for convenience), and it will still emit vapors into the bags.
It does help when the nozzle has vapor recovery system. Other wise you must pull the vapor collar back and hold it while you fill the tank to get more fuel in. And I store mine in one of the cubby holes in front of the door opening. |
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Cruiser
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| sgiacci - 2012-07-24 5:34 AM
So let me understand the logic of this thing.
You (not directed toward anyone in particular) defeat the safety devices and overflows because you can't figure out how use a gas nozzle at lower speeds, or you think it will save you time. Then when you're done using it you put this device that is covered in gas back into your bags that are nice and close to your motor so the most volatile part of gasoline (the vapors) can build up in a sealed environment close to a hot surface.
OR, you have the presence of mind to clean it off (provided the station isn't out of paper towels) which defeats the purpose of the time savings it is suppose to give you. Even if you clean it off there will be some residue on it (or the rag you might carry for convenience), and it will still emit vapors into the bags.
The only time I have experienced an overflow event is when I got distracted by some idiot driving too close to my bike or when a super hot chick walks by.
But to answer you questions, the only time I use it is when the pump has a vapor recovery system, in which one has to physically retract the book to make the pump work. I seriously believe we should stone the assholes who came up with that system.
When I am done, I don't bother cleaning it off, just put it back in its case and toss it in a cubby hole. The volume of residual fuel is so low it poses no risk to the bike or its operator. I have never had a problem with anything in that saddle bag smelling like fuel. |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | Not to knock the product, I just don't see it for the Vision. Concept is good and obvious someone feels there is a need. However, even with the vapor recovery systems, I don't like the idea of pushing down on the fill. I think some here need to run for political office so more people can see their brilliance. |
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Visionary
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Pittsburgh, PA | varyder - 2012-07-25 4:38 AM
Not to knock the product, I just don't see it for the Vision. Concept is good and obvious someone feels there is a need. However, even with the vapor recovery systems, I don't like the idea of pushing down on the fill. I think some here need to run for political office so more people can see their brilliance.
+1 !!! Its so Not needed. And if anything, its just one more thing to carry around and worry about. In over 4yrs ive Never needed something like that ever.... |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 1109
| I don't really see the need to use it on a Vision. I've known several friends with high dollar tank paint on HD's that used it. They were terrified they would spill fuel. |
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Cruiser
Posts: 188
| I guess the Vapor recovery systems in WA are more aggressive than else where.
It's a royal pain to retract the boots enough to get the pumps to work out here. I try to use stations that don't have the recovery system but sometimes there is no choice. |
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Cruiser
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Republic of Texas | sgiacci - 2012-07-24 7:34 AM
So let me understand the logic of this thing.
You (not directed toward anyone in particular) defeat the safety devices and overflows because you can't figure out how use a gas nozzle at lower speeds, or you think it will save you time. Then when you're done using it you put this device that is covered in gas back into your bags that are nice and close to your motor so the most volatile part of gasoline (the vapors) can build up in a sealed environment close to a hot surface.
OR, you have the presence of mind to clean it off (provided the station isn't out of paper towels) which defeats the purpose of the time savings it is suppose to give you. Even if you clean it off there will be some residue on it (or the rag you might carry for convenience), and it will still emit vapors into the bags.
Good description.
Only ONCE in 8 months have I overfilled my Vision. I was NOT paying attention.
You DO have to use patience when filling a Vision to completely full.
I am usually astride the bike and do the little "wiggle" thing while filling SLOWLY. It builds leg muscles.
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Visionary
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | So - the 6 or 7 'rocks' I give the bike before topping it up after the first stoppage is all wrong? I been doing that for 4 years, and now I need to consider some 'device' to do the same thing?
OH WAIT! I seem to recall you 'Mercans have some sort of skirt around the nozzle that has to be jammed into the filler before fuel flows. I haven't seen that out West in Kanada or U.S. in years. Just a few gentle rocks of the bike - then top it up. Not a hard or long-time thing to put up with ....
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | ...I have come to learn that some things are just too complicated for people... |
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Visionary
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | varyder - 2012-07-28 7:08 PM ...I have come to learn that some things are just too complicated for people... So sayeth a WISE wise man .... |
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Iron Butt
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| Wharf_rat - 2012-07-28 8:09 AM
I am usually astride the bike and do the little "wiggle" thing while filling SLOWLY. It builds leg muscles.
I used to fill it while still on the bike as well but I found it fills much, much faster with it on the side stand. Having it at an angle allows it to vent between tanks easier I would assume. I think the engineers planned on it to be filled leaned over. Give it a try and see what you think.
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Cruiser
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Republic of Texas | marcparnes - 2012-07-29 7:56 AM
I think the engineers planned on it to be filled leaned over. Give it a try and see what you think.
Marc
Thanks Marc,
I will. Within the hour.
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Puddle Jumper
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| As I fill up the tank, I fill it from the right side, rest my right foot on the driver's footboard and gently rock her every couple of seconds to stabilize the tanks. Seems to work getting tanks filled all the way. |
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Tourer
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Mount Vernon, WA United States | Not sure about the Vision, but on my V92C, two Guzzi's, Honda, and boat I use it all the time. The vapor boots here in Washington ARE aggressive. If you don't physically compress the boot, you don't get gas. Period. On my Guzzi LeMans, if I push the nozzle in attempting to compress the boot the tip hits the center of the tank. When I had my V92C all too often I could not tell how close I was to full. Due to the shape of that tank, mainly being so wide on top. It was so much easier to just flop the EZ Fill on, and pump. I kept the pouch on my handlebars, never needed to clean it. My gas up time was cut pretty much in half using it, and no guessing or having to pull the nozzle out and fight with the boot to see how much gas was in the tank. |
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Cruiser
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Nor Cali | Arkainzeye - 2012-07-22 7:30 PM If you fill the visions tank too fast you Dont get a full tank, so i fillit at half pressure and i get more into my tank, therefor not needing something like that after all.. +2
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