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Tourer
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| After reading some posts about stripped drain plugs I am wondering if this is a common issue with the Vision?? I replaced my stock plug with a magnetic one from Witchdoctors last oil change and so far so good...Does this happen because of too much force on plug when tightening or is the case really soft material...Never had any issues with this on my Kingpin.....Thanks... |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | depends on who you ask. having removed mine upteen times it is still as tight as the first time and I'm using the same crush washer for the last 8 or so changes. With that said, yes, I believe folks are going to tight and are not replacing the copper crush washer everytime. |
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New York | Ditto on the over tighting of the oil drain plug!... This is why I change my own oil and not let the dealership do it. Last time (and only time) I had my oil change at dealers it was a quart overfilled and drain plug over tighten with no copper washer!!!... I wasn't very happy to say the least!
Edited by joeC 2012-05-27 10:19 PM
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Jasper, MO | I think it's a case of over tightening the plug. The threads of the plug/case are straight, which means that no tension is applied until it reaches full engagement. The purpose of the crush washer is to both provide a sealing surface and to apply tension on the plug as it tightens and crushes the washer. Reusing an old washer, which I have also been guilty of at times, means that the washer is already crushed and work hardened. It gets tight suddenly instead of gradually. You can feel the difference between using an old washer versus a new one. The new one gets tight smoothly and gradually while an old one gets tight all at once, making it easy to over tighten it and strip the threads. Using a new crush washer with each oil change is the proper way to do it.
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Iron Butt
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Perry Hall, MD | Really disappointed when I went to one dealer to buy several oil plug washers and they didn't have any in stock. Owner claimed it wasn't necessary to replace it. Next dealer had them in stock, but couldn't spare all 10 that I asked for. |
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Visionary
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| I have used my washer for a good ten times now.
I wipe off the stock drain plug real good and the put a little antiszee on the threads.
You have a steel bolt and aluminum motor so the bolt takes away some aluminum every time it goes in and out. Victory should have used a heilcoil on the threads or harden the drain hole threads.
Just don't over tighten the bolt doesn't need a lot of tightening. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | i think people are over tightening them as if they were going to far out or something! lol i turn mine all the way in and with my allen wrench i put one hand on the wrench and then with my other hand i Smack the hand holding the wrench to make it Snug..... Ive never had a oil plug back its way out... I never Torque it down... on one of my other bikes it had 3 drain plugs! and one of them required 10lbs Max.... anything more and you lost your threads! and guess what.... just about everyone over tighened them and cried about it later.... |
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Cruiser
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SF Bay Area | Hm... having done 40 years of oil changes on motorcycles, I have yet to damage any threads. The reason...? I always treat the process like I was spinning a steel plug into aluminum. Snug, and no more. Personally, I would rather have the occasional weep than to have to helicoil or replace the crankcase housing. Crush washers exist for a reason... |
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Iron Butt
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Mt. Vernon, WASH. | Take a washer to either your local PROFESSIONAL fastener store (NOT Homer or Slowes) or to NAPA and ask 'got anything like this?' I don't believe POLARIS has them custom made to some obscure design, they're off the shelf parts purchased by the yard from a supplier. 
Edited by SYNSTR 2012-06-07 5:32 PM
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Visionary
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| Keep in mind the drain plug keeps oil in it hold nothing and it doesn't need to be so tight that it pulls threads. If you worrier about a leak wrap it with plumes tape. |
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Tourer
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Gettysburg, 2008 Tour Premium | A good bud of mine gave a tip he had learned. every time he removes a drain plug he uses a couple of turns of plumbers tape ( Teflon tape found in a hardware store) on the threads. It helps seal and helps hold the bolt without over tightening. He and I have been doing this for years on any drain bolt. |
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Visionary
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| Witchdoctor sells a hex head drain plug with magnet $19.95 http://buywitchdoctors.com/index.html?category_id=167&global=yes&se... |
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