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New Bohemia, VA | I'm curious since I plan on doing my next tire myself, who does not balance their tire at all? The reason why I ask is the last several tires changes I've taken to a particular dealer has used no weights on my tires. He tells me if I have a problem bring it back. The thing is, there is no problems, no vibrations, nothing. I get full tire wear out of them. All he does is line the dot on the tire opposite from the valve stem, and presto. Just wondering if anyone else knows about this. |
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W'ford Tx | On my vulcan I did the tires myself and never balanced them. Used the same trick too. Havn't had to change the ones on the vision yet which are tubeless but couldn't see any difference it could make. |
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Perry Hall, MD | As I recall from an earlier string no one reported finding weights on the front wheel from the factory. I'm not sure that all mechanics pay attention to aligning the dot with the valve stem. While investigating the purchase of a tire changer I watched a number of on-line demonstration videos and don't recall hearing any mention of looking for anything other than the rotation arrows. |
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| I have changed my own tires for the past 40 years, never balanced any of them. Always made sure to line up the dot with the valve stem and have had no issues |
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Brighton, TN | Like usual two different ways to mount. Which is right?
Straight from the horses mouth or a$$, pending your view of the world. The balance dot according to dunlop goes next to the stem. Still balance, no car tire and no internal balance media.
http://www.dunlopmotorcycle.com/info-center/care-and-maintenance/
Edited by pollolittle 2012-04-29 9:13 AM
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Iron Butt
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| Next to, NOT opposite of the valve stem! |
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Brighton, TN | For you guys that change your own tires. What equipment and tools do you use? Timeframe, best way etc. |
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New Bohemia, VA | Turk - 2012-04-29 10:58 AM Next to, NOT opposite of the valve stem! True that. My bad... |
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Iron Butt
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Perry Hall, MD | pollolittle - 2012-04-29 11:29 AM
For you guys that change your own tires. What equipment and tools do you use? Timeframe, best way etc.
Used hand tire spoons first time on front tire - not fun. Just used Coats 220 tire changer (recent used ebay purchase). Can't say that I paid much attention to how much time it takes as I'm still learning. I'm guessing that using a good lift could speed it up, particularly when doing the rear wheel. |
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NE Florida Jacksonville | I have been using Ride-On tire sealant & balance for the past three years without any problems. Started using it on my TCD, then when I got my Vision pulled the weights off and added the correct amount of Ride-On and all is well. No weights, and a sealant should I get unlucky enough to run over some trash. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | One time on my vulcan 2000 i bought custom R.C. component wheels with dunlop E3's (250 rear 130 front) the dealers said when they went to check the balancing everything was already perfect and it didnt need weights... recently i went to the dark side and i did the tire change myself, but this time i used Dynabeads.. it rides smooth.. had it up to 85mps so far with the beads.. |
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Bluff Park, Alabama - God's Country! 2011 PW VV | Wow! 85mps is really haulin'!!!!
<sorry - could't resist!> |
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Pittsburgh, PA | ghostssx - 2012-04-30 7:39 PM
Wow! 85mps is really haulin'!!!!
OMG i didnt proof read!! Love it! mile per second!! well it is a VISION.... warp speed... |
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Beer Collins, Colorado (there is no fort) | I use a modified HF tire changer & a MoJo bar + some wood wedges other little tricks (make sure the tie's warm-set it in the sun, etc.). I use to static balance the wheels but just use the DynaBeads these days. if you have a some tie down straps this works well also- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTjJokIH8IY
Harbor freight changer & Mojo Bar- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_J5_sRRiAk
The Mojo Bar- http://home.comcast.net/~prestondrake/mojoweb.htm
I don't know if the HF changers are available new any more-they are a great starting point but need some mods if you care about your rims- I made parts out of HDPE cutting board material so no metal contacts the rim and have anchor bolt inserts in the concrete floor to mount the changer when it time to use. I've got maybe $200 into the changer & tools and have done over a dozen tires for my self and about 8 for friends/neighbors-it's paid for itself and all changes are now free & done on my schedule not someone else's and that's priceless-Brian |
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New Bohemia, VA | thanks for the post bn2 - I'm going to check with a friend to see if he has one to give up also --- if not I'll splurge at HF and head down the do-it-all-by-myself road on changing the tire. The monkey is that the E3 has extrordinarily hard sidewalls that makes it an event to change them. Fortunately I have enough hind-end to let work in my favor. It worked well when I had to down a teenage boy who thought Dad was all used up.... |
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Barrington, NH | I have changed several tires and I remove all the old weights before putting them on the balancer and quite a few of them come up good with no weights... |
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no weights