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New Bohemia, VA | I'm curious, what can lean more, a Vision or an X-Bike? Anyone know or found out? |
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Prairie City, IA United States | varyder - 2012-02-26 7:59 AM
I'm curious, what can lean more, a Vision or an X-Bike?? Anyone know or found out?
I don't think there is much difference between my wife CR & my Vision. Unless you are running the wrong air pressure in the shock I don't think your going to drag a board on either. |
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Fountain Inn, SC United States | Read that the XC has a lean angle of 32 degrees. Don't know about the Vision. |
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Cottage Grove, Mn | I can tell you from personal experience you can drag the floorboard on a vision. |
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East TN | A Vision has BETTER lean angle than does a XC...I occasionally drag my floorboards, but my buddy who has a XC drags his floorboards almost all the time...Especially, on the Dragon Cherohala Skyway and a bunch of other roads around here... |
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Rockford, IL | lstayner - 2012-02-26 9:57 AM varyder - 2012-02-26 7:59 AM I'm curious, what can lean more, a Vision or an X-Bike?? Anyone know or found out? I don't think there is much difference between my wife CR & my Vision. Unless you are running the wrong air pressure in the shock I don't think your going to drag a board on either. I can attest that the Vision floorboards can easily be dragged. All it takes is a small amount of courage to try it and fairly soon you be fairly used to dragging them. Run your fingers along the bottom of my boards and you will find all kinds of unique "textures" Would like to strongly suggest that you find a empty parking lot and run the Vision thru some tight turns and lean angles so you can get familiar with the dragging and lean limits. A lot of safer that discovering on the streets with traffic.
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New Bohemia, VA | Dragging' floorboards wasn't what I was asking about. In short, which can lean more in a turn, the Vision or the X- bike? anyone know? The pic on Songfan's poster doesn't look like the x-bike is the winner. |
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| lstayner - 2012-02-26 10:57 AM
varyder - 2012-02-26 7:59 AM
I'm curious, what can lean more, a Vision or an X-Bike?? Anyone know or found out?
I don't think there is much difference between my wife CR & my Vision. Unless you are running the wrong air pressure in the shock I don't think your going to drag a board on either.
May be not in Iowa!
I've dragged floorboards on the Vision a number of times.
I thought I scraped a tipover once in an off-camber turn.
You ain't ridin' a Vision hard enough if your floorboards ain't scratched at least a little on the underside. |
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| joe schmoe - 2012-02-26 1:13 PM
A Vision has BETTER lean angle than does a XC...I occasionally drag my floorboards, but my buddy who has a XC drags his floorboards almost all the time...Especially, on the Dragon Cherohala Skyway and a bunch of other roads around here...
Yeah man, TN & NC are the world capital of floorboard-dragging roads and the Cherohala is among the very best. |
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Prairie City, IA United States | I haven't drug a floorboard yet. Now I did regularly on the Goldwing. In slow speed maneuvers I should be able to drag one. If I do it at speed in a curve then my riding skills need to be polished up because I am obviously riding the top side of the bike. |
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Prairie City, IA United States | Double Vision - 2012-02-26 1:44 PM
lstayner - 2012-02-26 10:57 AM
varyder - 2012-02-26 7:59 AM
I'm curious, what can lean more, a Vision or an X-Bike?? Anyone know or found out?
I don't think there is much difference between my wife CR & my Vision. Unless you are running the wrong air pressure in the shock I don't think your going to drag a board on either.
May be not in Iowa!
I've dragged floorboards on the Vision a number of times.
I thought I scraped a tipover once in an off-camber turn.
You ain't ridin' a Vision hard enough if your floorboards ain't scratched at least a little on the underside.
Iowa isn't what you think it is. There are some really nice twisty roads.
I am not sure what your body position is that you are dragging a board all the time. If you are tucked in and forward, then you shouldn't be dragging a board and still be running through the curves at goo d speed.
I have an advanced rider course coming up in May at a road race track so I will see how well the bike does then. 17 curves on a 1.2 mile track. |
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Akron Ohio area | I have a few scrapes on my floorboards.
And no, I am not sitting in the middle of my seat.
I'm not dragging a knee either. LOL
I would guess that a Vision can be leaned over more than a Cross Bike.
Lay a Vision down on it's tip-over protection and that's basically what you have to work with before really bad things happen.
Spiderman has a really cool picture of himself pushing his Vision to the limits on the Dragon.
Sparks...they be a flyin! |
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| I'm pretty sure almost every tme I dragged a floorboard it was 2-up with a full load of luggage. And I ain't hanging off the side of the Vision either. lol |
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flagstaff, AZ | I may be wrong ( happens a lot ), but they both have the same frame, wheel base, tires and similar floorboards. I would think the only thing changing lean angle is how air you put in the suspension. I'm sure the cross bikes feel lighter in the twisties. |
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| The frames are at least somewhat different.
The Vision's fuel tank it integrated into the frame while the CC has a separate fuel tank.
The Victory web site is showing Vision ground clearance at 4.8 inches and the CC at 5.8. Is that correct????? |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | ...so no one knows. I hate to freak out the dealer but I'm going to see the next time I visit if we can do a lean angle comparison. And by the way, ground clearance has nothing to do with lean angle, per se. |
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Litchfield Park, AZ | Double Vision - 2012-02-26 11:44 AM
lstayner - 2012-02-26 10:57 AM
varyder - 2012-02-26 7:59 AM
I'm curious, what can lean more, a Vision or an X-Bike?? Anyone know or found out?
I don't think there is much difference between my wife CR & my Vision. Unless you are running the wrong air pressure in the shock I don't think your going to drag a board on either.
May be not in Iowa!
I've dragged floorboards on the Vision a number of times.
I thought I scraped a tipover once in an off-camber turn.
You ain't ridin' a Vision hard enough if your floorboards ain't scratched at least a little on the underside.
I've had the tipovers meet the road on one occasion in an off-camber 160 degree turn....and I'll tell you right now that it will wake you up damn fast. It was like hitting a bump stop in a race car! The bike just bounced back up.
As for the original question, the tipovers are the ONLY lean angle limits of the Vision, and the angle it takes to hit them is much greater than that of a Cross Country. Now, a Cross Roads? I am not sure, but guessing it is a little better than the Cross Country.
Edited by phoenix9 2012-02-27 1:31 PM
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | I'm basing my question off the pictures, it always appears the Vision can go over further. Having scrapped the floorboards hard a few times it always amazes me when I lay the bike on the tip overs I've been close to that angle. |
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| Well, if one were to lay the Vision on one side and throw a digital level between the mirrors, we'll have half the answer. |
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San Antonio, TX | varyder - 2012-02-27 2:14 PM
I'm basing my question off the pictures, it always appears the Vision can go over further. Having scrapped the floorboards hard a few times it always amazes me when I lay the bike on the tip overs I've been close to that angle.
I have thought the same thoughts.... |
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