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Oregon. | Has anyone bought a spare gas can to take with them on a trip? If so, what kind? I was thinking a two gallon one to take with me to Alaska this summer.
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| hot dog...another alaska bound vision. when do you go? where in AK are you heading? will be riding up from Key west may 31st to prudhoe bay |
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Oregon. | Yeah, I know, wish I could do that ride, however not possible this year. I am riding from Oregon to Fairbanks the last week of June, and I plan on being back in Oregon on the fifth of July. Are you going to carry any spare fuel on the ride you are doing? What are you going to carry it in? Inwas thinking a small two gallon plastic fuel container. Maybe pick it up at the garden center at a hard ware store. |
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, WI | I'm using two REDA gas cans. http://www.redagascan.com/ 
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Oregon. | Saw those in RoadRunner magazine, have you tried them out yet? I know you had snow in your area not to long ago. |
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Bonita Springs, FL | I have used them for years. Once a month I empty it into the Vision and then refill just to keep it fresh. Very easy to use, once you line up two points on the neck you turn the can upside down into the gas tank and there is a little hook that you catch on the lip and simply push and the fuel comes out very quickly. It does not hold quite one gallon. |
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Oregon. | Do you carry them in your saddle bags, or on the luggage rack? The photos on the web site show them in the saddle bags. It looks like they would take up half of the space available. |
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Central New York | Sometimes I can be somewhat dense and miss the picture. Like right now I am trying to grasp why someone would haul around gas cans since the invention of gas gauges. It there somewhere in North American where you can drive on a road for over two hundred miles without passing a filling station? |
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, WI | Brian G - 2012-02-11 9:19 AM Saw those in RoadRunner magazine, have you tried them out yet? I know you had snow in your area not to long ago. I had one with me last summer but I didn't need it. It didn't leak. |
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, WI | glighto11 - 2012-02-11 9:39 AM Sometimes I can be somewhat dense and miss the picture. Like right now I am trying to grasp why someone would haul around gas cans since the invention of gas gauges. It there somewhere in North American where you can drive on a road for over two hundred miles without passing a filling station? Yes! Dalton Highway. 240 miles. Another problem is they don't always tell you that it's the last gas staion for the next 100+ miles. |
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Oregon. | Rollin' - 2012-02-11 9:42 AM
Brian G - 2012-02-11 9:19 AM Saw those in RoadRunner magazine, have you tried them out yet? I know you had snow in your area not to long ago. I had one with me last summer but I didn't need it.?It?didn't leak.
Good enough for me. My wife is riding up with me to Fairbanks, so I think it would be wise to carry a little bit extra fuel. |
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Orlando, FL | glighto11 - 2012-02-11 10:39 AM
Sometimes I can be somewhat dense and miss the picture. Like right now I am trying to grasp why someone would haul around gas cans since the invention of gas gauges. It there somewhere in North American where you can drive on a road for over two hundred miles without passing a filling station?
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I don't get it either. But I try to remember different strokes for different folks.
My Vision has a 6 gallon capacity and I get over 45 miles per gallon. Leaving a bit in the tank (say 1/4 gallon I have a range of over 258 miles. I cannot imagine needing a bigger range than that. Carrying extra gas is a dangerous option in my opinion. I'll just fill up often and carry my AAA card, my cell phone (or for those who mention I may not have service my thumb and my feet).
Extra gas, extra luggage, trailers, dog carriers, blah blah blah. I just wonder, why not buy a nice convertible car? And if I go to Alaska I won't be riding my bike. Come on, Dalton hiway? Really? You planning a trip to Deadhorse? Charter a private plane.
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| 258 wouldn't be enough to head up the Dalton, or even the Alcan (comfortably...many closed or out of gas stations along the way) and leave nothing to chance. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | I wish we had 7 gallon gas tanks , there's enough room behind all the plastic ................. |
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Orlando, FL | Come on guys, just turn on the flux capacitor. It's right behind the.................................................. Just look for the little red switch over the................................
I mean really, are you guys still using gasoline?
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Indianapolis, IN | Try checking these out guys. They are made specifically for what you are planning to carry, and the also have first aid kits and water cans that nest together as well. Also many types of mounting brackets. Just something I have known about for a while.
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, WI | MaddMAx2u - 2012-02-11 10:50 AM glighto11 - 2012-02-11 10:39 AM Sometimes I can be somewhat dense and miss the picture. Like right now I am trying to grasp why someone would haul around gas cans since the invention of gas gauges. It there somewhere in North American where you can drive on a road for over two hundred miles without passing a filling station? +1 I don't get it either. But I try to remember different strokes for different folks. My Vision has a 6 gallon capacity and I get over 45 miles per gallon. Leaving a bit in the tank (say 1/4 gallon I have a range of over 258 miles. I cannot imagine needing a bigger range than that. Carrying extra gas is a dangerous option in my opinion. I'll just fill up often and carry my AAA card, my cell phone (or for those who mention I may not have service my thumb and my feet). Extra gas, extra luggage, trailers, dog carriers, blah blah blah. I just wonder, why not buy a nice convertible car? And if I go to Alaska I won't be riding my bike. Come on, Dalton hiway? Really? You planning a trip to Deadhorse? Charter a private plane. Just posting information. I'm not asking for permission. |
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| I have always used backpackers fuel canisters. Have used them with my 1975 Norton Commando for years, 1 in each panner so the load is equal. I use to have 2 1.5 liter bottles but lost them. I now have 2 1 liter bottles. they are sturdy, puncture proof, leak proof lids, and made for fuel. I will be getting the 1.5 liter bottles again as they fit perfectly in both bikes |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | glighto11 - 2012-02-11 7:39 AM Sometimes I can be somewhat dense and miss the picture. Like right now I am trying to grasp why someone would haul around gas cans since the invention of gas gauges. It there somewhere in North American where you can drive on a road for over two hundred miles without passing a filling station? I did Alaska in 1995 and didn't need to carry extra. Maybe the economy has shut some down since then ... |
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, WI | donetracey - 2012-02-11 8:28 PM glighto11 - 2012-02-11 7:39 AM Sometimes I can be somewhat dense and miss the picture. Like right now I am trying to grasp why someone would haul around gas cans since the invention of gas gauges. It there somewhere in North American where you can drive on a road for over two hundred miles without passing a filling station? I did Alaska in 1995 and didn't need to carry extra. Maybe the economy has shut some down since then ... Did Alaska? |
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| donetracey - 2012-02-11 8:28 PM
glighto11 - 2012-02-11 7:39 AM Sometimes I can be somewhat dense and miss the picture. Like right now I am trying to grasp why someone would haul around gas cans since the invention of gas gauges. It there somewhere in North American where you can drive on a road for over two hundred miles without passing a filling station? I did Alaska in 1995 and didn't need to carry extra. Maybe the economy has shut some down since then ... ?
The dalton has 1 gas station on its over 400 miles....i believe extra gas is a good idea. |
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New Bohemia, VA | Rollin' - 2012-02-11 9:45 PM donetracey - 2012-02-11 8:28 PM glighto11 - 2012-02-11 7:39 AM Sometimes I can be somewhat dense and miss the picture. Like right now I am trying to grasp why someone would haul around gas cans since the invention of gas gauges. It there somewhere in North American where you can drive on a road for over two hundred miles without passing a filling station? I did Alaska in 1995 and didn't need to carry extra. Maybe the economy has shut some down since then ... Did Alaska? He gets around... |
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New Bohemia, VA | jeffmack - 2012-02-11 10:18 PM donetracey - 2012-02-11 8:28 PM glighto11 - 2012-02-11 7:39 AM Sometimes I can be somewhat dense and miss the picture. Like right now I am trying to grasp why someone would haul around gas cans since the invention of gas gauges. It there somewhere in North American where you can drive on a road for over two hundred miles without passing a filling station? I did Alaska in 1995 and didn't need to carry extra. Maybe the economy has shut some down since then ... ? The dalton has 1 gas station on its over 400 miles....i believe extra gas is a good idea.uh, yeah, at least a liter or two. In that 400 miles, how far apart are the gas stations? If it is smack dab in the middle at 200 miles, that wouldn't be too much of a problem, but I would take at least enough for two hundred more miles in case I got there after closing time.
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Oregon. | MaddMAx2u - 2012-02-11 10:50 AM
glighto11 - 2012-02-11 10:39 AM
Sometimes I can be somewhat dense and miss the picture. Like right now I am trying to grasp why someone would haul around gas cans since the invention of gas gauges. It there somewhere in North American where you can drive on a road for over two hundred miles without passing a filling station?
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I don't get it either. But I try to remember different strokes for different folks.
My Vision has a 6 gallon capacity and I get over 45 miles per gallon. Leaving a bit in the tank (say 1/4 gallon I have a range of over 258 miles. I cannot imagine needing a bigger range than that. Carrying extra gas is a dangerous option in my opinion. I'll just fill up often and carry my AAA card, my cell phone (or for those who mention I may not have service my thumb and my feet).
Extra gas, extra luggage, trailers, dog carriers, blah blah blah. I just wonder, why not buy a nice convertible car? And if I go to Alaska I won't be riding my bike. Come on, Dalton hiway? Really? You planning a trip to Deadhorse? Charter a private plane.
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Funny how some questions can evoke such an emotional response. The queston was intended for those members of the forum who ride long distances, and find themselves in areas where gas is not readily available.
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New Bohemia, VA | I think the best thing to do is just continue your fact finding mission with those in the know, and let the others rattle without recognition. I'll vicariously live through you guys who will make the trip. It motivates me to want to take the trip as well and prepare and plan. I just told the wife yesterday, "I want to ride to Alaska." She just told me to "get going..."
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | varyder - 2012-02-11 7:45 PM I think the best thing to do is just continue your fact finding mission with those in the know, and let the others rattle without recognition. I'll vicariously live through you guys who will make the trip. It motivates me to want to take the trip as well and prepare and plan. I just told the wife yesterday, "I want to ride to Alaska." She just told me to "get going..." Ya got a bedroom at my place, Chris. An maybe me and the Co-Pilot will ride along with ya for a spell. We started out for Alaska in 2010, saw a black cloud ahead - turned around and did the Oregon Coast instead. Keep it flexable, is my plan .... |
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Navarre, FL | Great discussion. My wife and I are riding to Anchorage the end of may/june. Her trike only gets about 35 MPG so we are considering bringing an extra 2 gallons. I like that 1.75 liter rotopax, It looks like it would fit nicely on the trunk rack on her trike. |
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Indianapolis, IN | hoosiervic - 2012-02-11 8:49 PM Try checking these out guys. They are made specifically for what you are planning to carry, and the also have first aid kits and water cans that nest together as well. Also many types of mounting brackets. Just something I have known about for a while. http://www.rotopax.com/[/QUOTE] Duplication of my previous entry with concept pics added:
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Oregon. | That is a great idea. Love the pics.
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Oregon. | I love this idea. I am wondering how it could be done on a Vision though. How would one mount the fuel cans on a Vision, the same way it was done on a Harley Ultra Glide? That is the question.
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Central Maryland | Brian G - 2012-02-12 1:07 PM
I love this idea. I am wondering how it could be done on a Vision though. How would one mount the fuel cans on a Vision, the same way it was done on a Harley Ultra Glide? That is the question.
It would look like crap. Don't do it. Store the fuel in the side bags; if the fuel container will fit. |
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, WI | This tank was made by Tour Tank. Mounted to the luggage rack. 2 gallons, vented with check valve and has a ground strap. 
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New Bohemia, VA | donetracey - 2012-02-11 10:51 PM varyder - 2012-02-11 7:45 PM I think the best thing to do is just continue your fact finding mission with those in the know, and let the others rattle without recognition. I'll vicariously live through you guys who will make the trip. It motivates me to want to take the trip as well and prepare and plan. I just told the wife yesterday, "I want to ride to Alaska." She just told me to "get going..." Ya got a bedroom at my place, Chris. An maybe me and the Co-Pilot will ride along with ya for a spell. We started out for Alaska in 2010, saw a black cloud ahead - turned around and did the Oregon Coast instead. Keep it flexable, is my plan .... Thanks for "leaving the light on" for me. I do hope that I can take you up on the offer. Also, to the other post - I don't think anyone who is doing this ride cares how the fuel looks mounting on the bike. As they say, chrome never keeps the bike running, neither does pretty. |
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Rancho Cucamonga, CA | Brian G - 2012-02-12 10:07 AM I love this idea. I am wondering how it could be done on a Vision though. How would one mount the fuel cans on a Vision, the same way it was done on a Harley Ultra Glide? That is the question. My rotopax setup
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New Bohemia, VA | I think another route to take is have one of those decks if you have a trailer hitch installed. I don't know how that would affect the ride, but it is an option. I'd still like to see a real solo-seat version of the Vision, that would make things even easier. |
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Oregon. | Rollin' - 2012-02-12 3:12 PM
This tank was made by Tour Tank. Mounted to the luggage rack. 2 gallons, vented with check valve and has a ground strap.
Don't want to go with an auxiliary fuel tank, I think a spare fuel can is the way to go. I like how the Rotopex fuel canisters are so thin. I believe that is what I will use on the trip. Mount them on my luggage rack and go for it. Who knows, maybe I will run into some of the guys in Alaska and we can compare notes. |
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Oregon. | I need to learn how to spell Rotopax. Rotopex, what the?????? What can I say? |
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, WI | Spare gas. Reminds me of this story. This guy rode from California to Florida non-stop. He never got off the bike. He pulled a trailer with 75 gallons of gas. Amazing story - http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20081108/news_mz1dd8nobrak.html |
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Tucson, AZ | I agree...carry gas. I dont understand why people consider it more dangerous than the 6 gallons we carry between our legs daily?
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