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| Why did Victory Use those weird Power adapters in the glove box and tour trunk???? |
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New Bohemia, VA | hawaii - 2012-02-09 3:16 AM Why did Victory Use those weird Power adapters in the glove box and tour trunk???? Because they are far better than the old cigerette lighter invention, but folks are reluctant to change and build more things that use that type than the other. BMW uses them and have for years so things are available for them if you order from the U. K. Victory was forward thinking, but not many others are... |
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Parkersburg WV | Hi, there are plenty of adapters out there so you can use items you already have.
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East TN | Powerlets are by far much better connectivity and overall construction than the flimsy low quality cheap cigarette lighter plugs found in cars and such...Powerlet makes probably 1000's of adapters as well as stand behind their products...Had an issue with a 12 V cord called them and they walked me through several steps of troubleshooting...Had the thing fixed i about 5 minutes... It was just a loose screw and no not ht eperson behind the screwdriver either. |
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Monrovia, Ca | Powerlets are great. |
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| Thanks for the replies. Where's the best place to get an adapter? Cheapest? Just bought a very small airpump from slime (about the size of a small book 4x5) but of course it has the reg plug on the end. |
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| Dang it - didn't know the background of the powerlets - just changed mine to cigarette style  |
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| I have purchase a number of products directly from Powerlet. www.powerlet.com |
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Bluff Park, Alabama - God's Country! 2011 PW VV | This ^^^ |
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Henlow, Bedfordshire, England | Interesting, my 2011 Silver Vision came with ordinary cigarette fitting. I had already ordered a powerlet adaptor for my accessories. Sent it back, it surprised the dealer. |
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East TN | I believe that Victory went with the CHEAP NO GOOD cigarette lighter type plugs on the 2010 models...might be the 2011 but they changed to the cheaper ones...Had to save 50 cents on every Vision I guess!
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| Or they had to many dinosaurs complaining ...... |
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Henlow, Bedfordshire, England | joe schmoe - 2012-02-09 12:17 PM
I believe that Victory went with the CHEAP NO GOOD cigarette lighter type plugs on the 2010 models...might be the 2011 but they changed to the cheaper ones...Had to save 50 cents on every Vision I guess!
Makes sense as they also removed the side bag dampers as well to cut cost. |
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Camas Washington | I have a different view, 1st I like having the cig power outlet on my 11. Everything I need to plug in comes with the cig version. I dont need to order accessories like I would with the power-outlets. The cig outlet is not a cheap change over so get over it that Vic is saving money by going this route its just better marketing. 2nd I waited for the 11's to come out and one reason why the removal of the side cover hydraulic piston arm, when I open a side over I like it to open now not have to waive 3 seconds. Just my opinion. |
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East TN | Riverdawg....Sorry but they (Mother Vic) did ALL these changes not for convenience and better marketing....They did it for SAVINGS!! A cheap 12 cigarette lighter plug (probably made in China)is probably 50 cents. Where as a Powerlet quality made (in the USA) outlet probably cost them $2...Then the pistons on the side bags cost $10 each...There is significant savings by doing away with quality and replacing it with cheap stuff....Even if it is only on a 100 motorcycles they save a bunch of money....Then figure in th etip overs they removed, the polished wheels and etc, and etc.... |
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Bay of Gigs, WA | So, what you're all saying, contrary to popular wisdom, is that the earlier the Vision, the better the Vision? Usually it's the other way around. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | Making the 2011 cheaper? But awhile adding a.b.s., much improved seat (quality -over 2008) much better radio and speakers, trany, better charging system, colored controls and wheels instead of the color of cast aluminium. I know on my 2011 my side bag doors open Wider without the shock than my 2008 did with the shock.. |
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Lansing, MI |
Here ya go:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-RT-R-S-GS-C-CL-K-GT-GTL-LT-1100-1150-12...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Powerlet-Ridget-Cigeratte-adapter-PAC-043-/...
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Mt. Vernon, WASH. | The powerlet may be better than the old style car lighter adapter (and I don't buy into the pipedream that a nazi BUICK, a BMW, is a measurably better car) , but in order to use my as supplied by the phone manufacturer, car charger I still had to go buy another adapter like the one shown above adding to the clutter in the already teeny glove box area. To me, powerlets are as useful as a crate of left handed light bulbs.
OH yeah, and they are certifiable pain in the A$$ to remove from the hole it's buried in in the botom of the glove box 
Edited by SYNSTR 2012-02-10 7:30 PM
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, AR United States | I like the powerlet outlet, it's just too bad that nothing I have came with a powerlet plug. So I bought an adapter. |
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san antonio, tx | Yeah, I don't think there's any argument that the powerlet system is the better system.
I don't think there's any argument that the metric system is a better system either.
So........now what? |
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Pittsburgh, PA | Whats the other end of a powerlet? The side you plug in your device? What type of plug is that? Is it the same as the 2011 vision a cigarette port? |
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Southeast Missouri | They just wanted me to buy more crap. |
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New Bohemia, VA | The the unfortunate thing about powerlet is that there are not many devices sold in the U.S. with the plug for it already. many devices are the plug itself like phone chargers. I don't know exactly why Victory went the powerlet way to start with and then switch back, but they did it, so we live with it. I'd like to see everything go USB, but I don't see it happening anytime soon. |
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| Got a 2011 everything seems to work fine on mine.. |
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Mt. Vernon, WASH. | Arkainzeye - 2012-02-10 7:55 PM
Whats the other end of a powerlet? The side you plug in your device? What type of plug is that? Is it the same as the 2011 vision a cigarette port?
The other end is a socket for a 'been around for 100 years' regular old cigarette lighter plug. Strikes me as stupid design driven by a dose of 'GEE, That looks cool', net gain, another 10 inches of coaxial cable to futz with, BRILLIANT!!.
I've said for decades that engineers should be required to work as mechanics and maintainers of things for 5 years before they design anything, it might help push the 'dumb a$$' and 'WTF??'out of how things are designed. |
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New Bohemia, VA | Actually, I think it is a brilliant idea and wish more manufacturers would go with the euro style plug, there are many more benefits. I think some cars have gone to leaving out the cigerette lighter, and I know most call it a "power outlet" now. I don't even know if it would accommidate an cigerette lighter. The difference is that the cigarette lighter adaptation as a power outlet came many years after the cigarette lighter came to be. Often the plugs were flimsy and unreliable, and sometimes dangerous. I'm sure the euro style came to be by wanting to create a better "mousetrap" in to create a power outlet. The problem only lies in the reluctancy to change, period. We'll actually outdate ourselves before something better comes along, as most gizmo gadgets that we want to use can run from the USB power. I expect that to be the next big thing and find that some cars are already there, so given time even the powerlet will be the dinasaur of a power adapter. As far as an engineer working on stuff, I have come to realize, though it is a wish of mine, machinery would be much more expensive than what they are, and it would also put the mechanics out of business. I only ask them to design it with reliability and longevity so that it doesn't have to be worked on as often. I think that is where Victory is, it must be just as bad to be a Victory technician as it is to be a Maytag repairman....
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Mt. Vernon, WASH. | varyder - 2012-02-11 8:27 AM
Actually, I think it is a brilliant idea and wish more manufacturers would go with the euro style plug, there are many more benefits. I think some cars have gone to leaving out the cigerette lighter, and I know most call it a "power outlet" now. I don't even know if it would accommidate an cigerette lighter. The difference is that the cigarette lighter adaptation as a power outlet came many years after the cigarette lighter came to be. Often the plugs were flimsy and unreliable, and sometimes dangerous. I'm sure the euro style came to be by wanting to create a better "mousetrap" in to create a power outlet. The problem only lies in the reluctancy to change, period. We'll actually outdate ourselves before something better comes along, as most gizmo gadgets that we want to use can run from the USB power. I expect that to be the next big thing and find that some cars are already there, so given time even the powerlet will be the dinasaur of a power adapter. As far as an engineer working on stuff, I have come to realize, though it is a wish of mine, machinery would be much more expensive than what they are, and it would also put the mechanics out of business. I only ask them to design it with reliability and longevity so that it doesn't have to be worked on as often. I think that is where Victory is, it must be just as bad to be a Victory technician as it is to be a Maytag repairman....
And, using that logic explains why when you buy ANY electrical appliance in Britian, it comes without a plug since there are over 350 styles of electrical outlets due to non standardization and the decision of type and style being left to the local council to decide, so then you're off to the local DYI store to pick up a plug end for your new refridgerator or lamp. Just because it's a heck of an idea, you might want to make sure it's used over an area bigger than the turf your housecat roams in a night before going with it. |
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