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Puddle Jumper
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St. Louis Mo. | Anyone else have any experience with a wrecked Arlen Ness Vision? I hit a deer Monday night at around 55 mph, which tore off most of the front end damaged both gas tanks and bent the forks. The bike wasn't even broken in yet 370 miles. I'm waiting for the insurance adjuster. If the bike isn't totalled what's it like getting parts (it's got all the 09 ness graphics)? If it is totalled I'll see if I can buy it for parts.  |
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Visionary
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Central Maryland | Man, I'm sorrry to hear that. Damned deer around here is one reason why I refuse to ride at night. If I have to ride at night, it's a serious pucker factor until I get to my destination... |
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Navarre, FL | I can't answer your question, but let me be the first to say I am glad you are ok! |
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Puddle Jumper
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St. Louis Mo. | I have to give alot of credit to the bike. It never went down. I'd post some pictures if I can figure out how. I ended up with a couple of bruises on my legs that's about it. I feel really lucky. I'll keep riding a Vision that's for sure. |
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Bay of Gigs, WA | I thought they were all hibernating this time of year... |
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Puddle Jumper
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St. Louis Mo. | It was almost 60 monday night when I headed home from work. This thing jumped over a median right in front of me on a highway. I live in a heavily populated area west of St Louis. I wish they hibernated. At least this one won't be jumping in front of anymore moving vehicles. |
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Oregon. | Wow, lucky. |
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| I work with a friend of yours & he showed me the pictures today . Glad you are ok . |
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Pittsburgh, PA | Im going to guess the bike will be totaled .... glad your ok and alive to tell the story! |
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Iron Butt
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New York State | Welcome to the club you did better than I .
I hit a deer he wraped around bike and broke my leg. I had 3 grand in broken plastic. Parts are plentiful.
Never put my bike down Visions are built like brick shithouses.
Met Mike Song at the IMS in NYC I shook his hand and thanked him for saving my life then told him the tale of Deer Crusher.
Deer may stop roaming at night after a few more are killed by Vision Pilots |
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Green Bay, WI United States | Never had a close call yet, knock on wood, except for the Cottonville tornado last year but that's another story! I think it helps that I do not ride much after dark but have gone on deer rides in the cage just before dark and seen a couple hundred deer in multiple fields in the Big Flats, WI area. Glad your alright, the bike can be replaced and as TrekWolf164 said, you have no broken bones. Good thing you were on a Vision, the plastic took some of the energy, kinda like an Indy car.
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Lansing, MI |
I'm sure getting parts won't be a problem. I think it's a great idea to buy it back and fix it for cheap. Good to hear you came out of it okay. It's amazing to me that you can hit a deer, do that kind of damage and not go down... I know someone else who hit a deer on a Vision, with his girlfriend on back. Broke the front fender, dented the trim and damn near ripped the dear in half! |
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Iron Butt
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Northeast Ohio | John, if the insurance doesn't total it, make sure you tell your dealer to tell Victory to use the rider down program. It helps to get all the parts needed quickly. If not, you may be waiting a while.
+1 on the glad you are ok comments! |
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Puddle Jumper
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St. Louis Mo. | Trekwolf164 Your bike was repaired then. It happened so fast it felt like I drove right through the deer. Kinda of weird when I think about it. The bike remained stable even with that great of an impact. "Deer may stop roaming at night after a few more are killed by Vision Pilots". Nice. I think I'll try a deer whistle. Does anyone know if they really work? 8ball I was born in Milwaukee and have relatives up in Harrison Hills (between Tomahawk and Rhinelander) I love northern Wi. |
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Central Maryland | rainryder - 2012-02-01 4:48 PM
I thought they were all hibernating this time of year...
You're not serious, are you? ROTFLMAO !!! |
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Denver, Iowa | About three months ago, there was a BRAND NEW '09 Ness at the Osage Beach, Missouri dealership... saw it with my own two eyes. Then, the owner of our old dealer here in the metro area (which has closed up) told me about a dealer somewhere down south that bought all of the remaining '09 Ness Visions left unsold. Don't know if it's true, but the last number I heard was he had four BRAND NEW ones in stock. I'll have to check on that one. I realize I'm biased since I own one, but I think we own the most beatiful Ness Victorys ever made. Never owned a street bike in my 40+ years here on God's great green earth, then I saw the '09 Ness Vision... I signed on the line!
On a far more serious note... I'm glad you are OK! Deer are rampant here in Iowa, and I've only hit one (in my truck). It really messed up my truck, and it lived. Ran away from the scene. But to see a dozen in the ditch as you travel at dusk or dawn is a normal sight. Again, thankfully you're OK!
They just sold a wrecked '09 Ness Vision on Copart. The owner of that bike... he's on here sometimes, too. He might be able to offer some insight as to what his insurance company was dealing with on this particular bike. Maybe he can chime in...
Edited by Godspeed 2012-02-01 8:39 PM
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Iron Butt
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New York State | johnurankar - 2012-02-01 7:07 PM
Trekwolf164 Your bike was repaired then. It happened so fast it felt like I drove right through the deer. Kinda of weird when I think about it. The bike remained stable even with that great of an impact. "Deer may stop roaming at night after a few more are killed by Vision Pilots". Nice. I think I'll try a deer whistle. Does anyone know if they really work? 8ball I was born in Milwaukee and have relatives up in Harrison Hills (between Tomahawk and Rhinelander) I love northern Wi.
Yes My bike was 5 days new when a 200 pound Bambi stopped in the street with What kind of Motorcycle is that look on his face.
As far as Deer Whistles both air driven and motorized were tested deer pay no attention. |
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Mt. Vernon, WASH. | Deer, especially white tails are becoming long legged urban rats. If theres a two block deep green belt in your neighborhood, you probably have deer in them. deer don't hibernate,they aren't built to survive without a constant source of food, they're closer to bovine than ursus.
Don't use commercal 'COYOTE PEE' to keep them away from your wifes roses, your yard will be full of anxious looking male dogs looking for dates because the COYOTE PEE comes from female COYOTES! |
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Puddle Jumper
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St. Louis Mo. | Godspeed thanks for the info. There are 2 new ones at Jones Powersports in Columbia Mo (one has miles the owners demo). So if mine is totalled I'll just get another 09. Great motorcycle even for hitting deer, not that I want to do that again. The Osage Beach dealership is owned by Seebold I think. I would prefer getting another new one if that can happen. If they choose to pay to repair it I will have my dealer use the rider down program. Thanks for the tip ScoreBo. |
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New Bohemia, VA | Sorry. Hope you're back on the road soon. |
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St. Louis Mo. | I'll pass on the Deer Whistle. Thought it might be useless. If it works like a dog whistle they may come to check it out. I agree we see so many deer now they're starting to look like long legged urban rats. The police told me that one had recently jumped off an overpass into traffic. It ended up going through the windshield of a passing car. |
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Puddle Jumper
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SE Wisconsin | Glad that you're ok. I live just north of Milwaukee and the only thing I fear is first those drunk drivers then , the deer! My sister inlaw lived in Chesterfeild,MO. & have seen them there often. If you're up neet THE Brew City maybe we can ride. The deer whistle just don't work. The only time you don't see deer is hunting season!
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not far from hustler wisconsin | Time for deer slayer tattoo..... |
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Tifton, GA | Glad you are alright! Never hit a deer on the bike two dogs over the years were bad enough. Glad to hear the Vision can take the impact like that and protect the pilot. Knew that this was the best bike for a lot of reasons. Now I know one more! |
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Iowa | Glad you are okay. I would not be surprised if it gets totaled. There are not too many people who can walk away from a deer accident on a bike. But the Vision is not just a bike. |
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Iron Butt
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| willtill - 2012-02-01 3:28 PM
Man, I'm sorrry to hear that. Damned deer around here is one reason why I refuse to ride at night. If I have to ride at night, it's a serious pucker factor until I get to my destination...
Same here.... hate riding at night in the country....
Hope you came out unscathed.
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Iron Butt
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Rockford, IL | If they do total your bike you will probably NOT be able to purchase it back. This depends on your state laws. Most states have so called "chop shop" laws that prevent the average consumer from purchasing vehicles that have been deemed a total loss. For example here in Illinois the law is that the vehicle must be nine calendar years old (or older) in order for the vehicle owner to retain the vehicle. If the vehicle is less than nine years old then only a company with whats called a UDL Salvage license can purchase the vehicle.
Oh yea.....glad to hear you are doing ok !!!
As far as posting pictures there are tutorials in the "Welcome, Guidelines and Important Information" part of this forum. |
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Iron Butt
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, FL United States | Sorry to hear about your Vision but glad you're OK. |
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Puddle Jumper
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St. Louis Mo. | Ok here are a couple of pictures. I went to the how to. Now lets see if I can follow the directions...
(deer migration sign.jpg)
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Puddle Jumper
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St. Louis Mo. | Pictures are too large. I attempted to resize them still over 100kb. I did figure out how to download a photo. Heres a quote from Deer strike stratagies on the internet;
" After all, the greater your forward energy, the greater your impact force. Yeh, we?ve heard the folk tale of a motorcyclist riding at warp speed through the forest at night, and slicing a deer in half without dropping the bike. Even if that folk tale is true, the rider was extremely lucky, not clever or skillful. For every folk tale of slamming into a wild animal without getting hurt, there are several other reports of riders being seriously injured, and motorcycles destroyed. " I've heard of 3 Visions hitting deer without going down. |
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Simi Valley, CA | The Vision is a tank, so glad you are okay.... |
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| Had a deer run into the side of my Vision as i was going around 40 mph this past summer . bike is a tank never went down, ROLLIN FAST in NJ had me back on the road in a week and a half. $ 1800 worth of plastic and a couple scratches on me and all is well. |
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Lansing, MI | johnurankar - 2012-02-02 12:15 PM
Pictures are too large. I attempted to resize them still over 100kb. I did figure out how to download a photo.
Go here to resize your photos: http://pixlr.com/editor/
Click on "open image from computer" open pic from your 'puter...
Then click on "Image" top left, in the black bar
Then "image size" make it smaller, maybe half of what evers already in the top box. Make sure you check the "constrain proportions" box or you'll have one goofy looking pic... |
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Lansing, MI |
Oh and yeah, forgot to tell you to save it too.
Click "File" top left, black box.
Click "save".... |
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Duanesburg N.Y. | When my bike jumped off my bike lift it took a month to get it fixed. It took a week just order all the damaged parts then 2 weeks for the parts to trickle in, a week dickin at the paint shop, and it was assembled in one day.
No matter how long it takes it will take longer than they say and the fustration factor will be high. sorry to hear about the damage. I was there 8 months ago
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Visionary
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San Antonio, TX | Wow. I am glad you are OK. The list of things that a Vision hits or gets hit by and does not make the Vision go down is growing.
Deer
Armadillos
Cinder Blocks
Rear ended at 65 Miles per hour
What a bike!
Ride Safe
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Lansing, MI |
"cinder blocks"? WOW! Hadn't heard that one. What's the story with that? |
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Iron Butt
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New York State | cook06vegas - 2012-02-04 6:15 AM
"cinder blocks"? WOW! Hadn't heard that one. What's the story with that?
I was burning the rear wheel filling the garage with smoke wnen I released the front brake the Vision launched at the rear wall imagine my surprise as the bike and I ended up in the pool in the backyard.
I turned and looked back at the house with a large hole in the cinderblock wall.
OK that never happened but it is was what came to mind when I read cinderblock
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Lansing, MI |
I was about to ask if ya had any pics of that and the line that came to my mind was, "Hold my beer, watch this!" |
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Iron Butt
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Perry Hall, MD | I have the deer whistles on my bike. Now way to tell if they have prevented any from jumping out in front of me, but I can tell you that they didn't work for the several that have. My morning commute is almost always in the dark through some areas with significant deer populations. It is my greatest fear.
To date I've only hit one (actually it hit me from the side). Fortunately I didn't go down either, just replaced some body parts and lower deflectors.
Glad you're OK and good luck with the repairs. If it is totaled buying it back for parts would really be worth considering. |
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Puddle Jumper
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St. Louis Mo. | Resized pics. Here goes. Had my revenge meal thursday night Venison steaks!!
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| States should have laws requiring Deer to have reflectors. I've seen a couple of deer with whistles but I couldn't hear them. |
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Lansing, MI |
DAMN! That thing is Fed' up!!! Looks like you took the deer's head off and gutted him! |
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2 mi from Jim Beam n KY | Glad you're ok!!!! I hope they get you a new one!!! That will put you back on the road the fastest!!
The stability of the Vision is amazing!
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Prairie City, IA United States | johnurankar - 2012-02-01 2:58 PM
Anyone else have any experience with a wrecked Arlen Ness Vision? I hit a deer Monday night at around 55 mph, which tore off most of the front end damaged both gas tanks and bent the forks. The bike wasn't even broken in yet 370 miles. I'm waiting for the insurance adjuster. If the bike isn't totalled what's it like getting parts (it's got all the 09 ness graphics)? If it is totalled I'll see if I can buy it for parts.
It is unlikely that the bike will be totaled. My wife did $11,000 damage to a 2010 Cross Roads and the insurance company fixed it. It took 10 weeks to get all the parts and bike back together. The positive side is that I did $5,000 damage to a 2010 Goldwing in the same accident and it took 11 weeks and me looking at a salvage yard for 1 part. Needless to say the GW went down the road and I love my new Vision.
Good luck. |
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Lansing, MI |
Damn, what happened in that accident? |
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