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Posts: 825 , WI | Planning a ride this year that will include a lot of miles on a gravel road. One concern was the belt. I always plan for the worse and hope for the best and I like to make things so I made a lower belt guard for the Vision. I started with two pieces of bent sheet metal and attached them with stainless steel rivets. The front part of the guard is bent up to deflect rocks away from the front sprocket. The new guard is attached to the original guard with stainless steel rivets and I added a small piece of sheet metal at the top to seal the gap. I mounted it on the bike with the front higher so hopefully any rocks will roll back and off. I have put about 1500 miles on the bike since I installed it and no issues. Hopefully it works! 



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Posts: 965 New York State | Great idea best of luck with Alaska to Fla run |
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Posts: 804 Perry Hall, MD | Good idea given your plans and it appears to be well thought out. How about a mud flap for the front fender? |
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Posts: 96 Princeton, IL | Nicely executed and hidden! |
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Posts: 785 Mt. Vernon, WASH. | Having spent 4+ decades in aviation, I'd take your beautifly crafted work of art (and REALLY mean that, it's beautifully done)to the airport to a repair shop and replace those pop rivets with driven CRES (Stainless steel)rivets or buy some HILOKS and collars (or have the sheetmetal guys do the riveting and/or HILOKS) and make sure it stays together. Those aluminum pop rivets won't stand up to the pounding. The cost is pretty cheap ( a few bucks) and the peace of mind when you're out in the bush will be worth it.
A bit of elbow grease can make that Stainless shine like a mirrior and really add to the overall looks of your ride.
Again, really nice work!! That's what would be called a 'be proud job'
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Posts: 1365 Central Maryland | Very genius. I'm sure it will work as designed. |
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Posts: 825 , WI | Thank you!!! |
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Posts: 825 , WI | lennyb - 2012-01-08 12:05 PM Good idea given your plans and it appears to be well thought out. How about a mud flap for the front fender? Thank you! I think a mud flap on the front fender would help a lot. I have seen some reports of front fenders breaking and I'm not sure if extending it would add to the problem. ?? |
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Posts: 825 , WI | SYNSTR - 2012-01-08 1:18 PM Having spent 4+ decades in aviation, I'd take your beautifly crafted work of art (and REALLY mean that, it's beautifully done)to the airport to a repair shop and replace those pop rivets with driven CRES (Stainless steel)rivets or buy some HILOKS and collars (or have the sheetmetal guys do the riveting and/or HILOKS) and make sure it stays together. Those aluminum pop rivets won't stand up to the pounding. The cost is pretty cheap ( a few bucks) and the peace of mind when you're out in the bush will be worth it. A bit of elbow grease can make that Stainless shine like a mirrior and really add to the overall looks of your ride. Again, really nice work!! That's what would be called a 'be proud job' Thanks Bill! All of the rivets are stainless steel but it would be nice to find something that looked better. |
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Posts: 825 , WI | Trekwolf164 - 2012-01-08 11:01 AM Great idea best of luck with Alaska to Fla run Thank you! I can't wait to try this ride!! |
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Posts: 785 Mt. Vernon, WASH. | Then I'd recommend sourcing someone to do HILOKS, they are a threaded shank fastener with a screw on, self locking collar, they must work because they pretty much keep you from falling out of a 737. They come in 'pan head' or Countersunk varieties,are 85% Titanium, Swing by the local airport and ask- |
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Posts: 804 Perry Hall, MD | SYNSTR - 2012-01-08 4:59 PM
Then I'd recommend sourcing someone to do HILOKS, they are a threaded shank fastener with a screw on, self locking collar, they must work because they pretty much keep you from falling out of a 737. They come in 'pan head' or Countersunk varieties,are 85% Titanium, Swing by the local airport and ask-
Should keep in mind that we are talking about doing this in Alaska. Isn't there some state regulation that requires you to use duct tape?? :-) |
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Posts: 161 Oregon. | Good luck Rollin, it looks great and sounds like you have been really thorough in your planning. |
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Posts: 825 , WI | lennyb - 2012-01-08 5:33 PM SYNSTR - 2012-01-08 4:59 PM Then I'd recommend sourcing someone to do HILOKS, they are a threaded shank fastener with a screw on, self locking collar, they must work because they pretty much keep you from falling out of a 737. They come in 'pan head' or Countersunk varieties,are 85% Titanium, Swing by the local airport and ask- Should keep in mind that we are talking about doing this in Alaska. Isn't there some state regulation that requires you to use duct tape?? :-) Duct tape - already packed! |
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Posts: 825 , WI | Brian G - 2012-01-08 5:40 PM Good luck Rollin, it looks great and sounds like you have been really thorough in your planning. Thanks Brian! |
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Posts: 763 Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | Looks good. So good that I bet most people won't even notice it. It blends right in. Hope you have a great ride. |
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Great idea to keep the gravel off the belt.
I mounted a mud flap (medium size) last year and slotted the flap so the flap could slide up or off if needed. 10,000 miles last year with no issues.
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Posts: 1308 Sand Rock, AL United States | Great job Steve! |
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Posts: 825 , WI | jimtom - 2012-01-09 6:26 AM Great job Steve! Thanks Jim! |
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Posts: 825 , WI | I also added the Arlen Ness engine skid plate and Cee Baileys headlight armor. The tour box was made by Happy Trails. 

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Posts: 825 , WI | Thomas - 2012-01-08 8:29 PM ?
I mounted a mud flap (medium size) last year and slotted the flap so the flap could slide up or off if needed. 10,000 miles last year with no issues.
Who makes the mud flap? |
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Posts: 623
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do you have a date set yet? I leave Key West fpr the Arctic Circle on May28th. Hope to pass you on the way. BTW the 2012 "MilePost" book will be out in print second week of Macrh. Amazon taking orders now. |
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Central Wisconsin | Bought the mud flap from Phat Performance. Looks like the price jumped a few bucks.
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Posts: 825 , WI | TRELL - 2012-01-09 3:37 PM Forget off roading you can't do it on a car tire. Your belt gaurd looks good. It really won't be off-road riding just no pavement and thank you! |
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Posts: 825 , WI | jeffmack - 2012-01-09 11:29 AM Rollin, do you have a date set yet? I leave Key West fpr the Arctic Circle on May28th. Hope to pass you on the way. BTW the 2012 "MilePost" book will be out in print second week of Macrh. Amazon taking orders now. Tentatively set to start in mid June. |
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Posts: 63 Calgary, AB, | Rollin' - 2012-01-09 8:21 AM I also added the Arlen Ness engine skid plate and Cee Baileys headlight armor. The tour box was made by Happy Trails. Both look like good ideas, given the certainty of some stretches of gravel. Couple of questions, does the installed engine guard allow access to oil drain w/o removal and where do you source that guard, and on the headlight cover, does it appear to be substantial enough to prevent a crack if hit (I've been thinking about one of these even for local riding. Are you shipping the bike to AK then starting, or riding up from Wisconsin.? Just wondered if you're trying to ride both ways up and down then on to FLA, as it may be a bit early to go north and allow that start time. PS If you ride through Calgary area, let us know, maybe a few riders that would be interested in heading south about then. Enjoy the ride, it's a nice trip, (but I've not done it on a bike YET) 

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Posts: 825 , WI | ridenfun - 2012-01-09 10:58 PM Rollin' - 2012-01-09 8:21 AM Both look like good ideas, given the certainty of some stretches of gravel. Couple of questions, does the installed engine guard allow access to oil drain w/o removal and where do you source that guard, and on the headlight cover, does it appear to be substantial enough to prevent a crack if hit (I've been thinking about one of these even for local riding. Are you shipping the bike to AK then starting, or riding up from Wisconsin.? Just wondered if you're trying to ride both ways up and down then on to FLA, as it may be a bit early to go north and allow that start time. PS If you ride through Calgary area, let us know, maybe a few riders that would be interested in heading south about then. Enjoy the ride, it's a nice trip, (but I've not done it on a bike YET) The skid plate does not block the drain plug. I think the headlight guard will save the headlight. I was planning on riding north to Alaska first but I think ending in Prudhoe Bay will be a better ending so I think I will be starting in Key West. Basic route - 
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Posts: 825 , WI | Found a short video on You Tube. The Dalton Highway - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar06E331uX4&feature=related .
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Posts: 2027 Brighton, TN | Can't wait to see the America's trip! The southernmost point on the continent, to the northernmost point. You may want to accessorize for dual sporting first, but it sounds like it would be a fun ride.
Start at the tip of South america and run to to the top. Git'R Done!
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Posts: 623
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I may get home before you get to my neck of the woods. If so, I am in Marietta, Ga and have a bed, garage, tools, grill, and some homemade brew if you are ready for a little riders rest. keep me posted and ill do the same. |
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Posts: 825 , WI | jeffmack - 2012-01-11 6:55 AM Rollin, I may get home before you get to my neck of the woods. If so, I am in Marietta, Ga and have a bed, garage, tools, grill, and some homemade brew if you are ready for a little riders rest. keep me posted and ill do the same. Sounds good Jeff. Does your route take you near Milwaukee? |
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Posts: 623
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Posts: 72
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Posts: 825 , WI | PCNova - 2012-01-11 11:23 AM Wow, I envy you Rollin, you have inspired me today to do great things this year. Wishing you a safe and exciting journey, with memories that I am sure will last you a life time. Shiny side up brother....................... Thank you!! I do have a lot of great Victory memories, hoping for more. I hope you get a chance to do the things you want to do. |
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Posts: 430
| Rollin - like many on this site - I look forward to your after trip report, with pics of course, you are living the dream for many of us who are still 'office bound'
I've had the good fortune to travel to AK many times for business. I love that state. I recall one time in December, driving a cage, to a customer site and the local news caster said it was a 'balmy' - 0 degrees. I said outloud in the car 'balmy, balmy how can 0 be balmy!' LOL |
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Posts: 3006 San Antonio, TX | 20 10 Vision - 2012-01-12 9:59 AM
Rollin - like many on this site - I look forward to your after trip report, with pics of course, you are living the dream for many of us who are still 'office bound'
Reading this from my desk at my office. I am living for the dream.
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Posts: 804 Perry Hall, MD | Rollin,
You might want to check out latest photo posting and send PM to Claudio. Has some experience on gravel (2 up no less). Also wondering what the canister is that is attached to the left side of the engine. |
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Posts: 281
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Posts: 825 , WI | 20 10 Vision - 2012-01-12 9:59 AM Rollin - like many on this site - I look forward to your after trip report, with pics of course, you are living the dream for many of us who are still 'office bound' I've had the good fortune to travel to AK many times for business. I love that state. I recall one time in December, driving a cage, to a customer site and the local news caster said it was a 'balmy' - 0 degrees. I said outloud in the car 'balmy, balmy how can 0 be balmy!' LOL Getting time away is the most challenging part of the rides. I'm a supervisor with a smart phone so even when I'm on "vacation" I'm still not really gone. Even on the 49 state ride I was checking and responding to emails and returning calls! I did get a break in Alaska. No cell towers. |
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Posts: 825 , WI | lennyb - 2012-01-12 4:16 PM Rollin, You might want to check out latest photo posting and send PM to Claudio. Has some experience on gravel (2 up no less). Also wondering what the canister is that is attached to the left side of the engine. Canister? |
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Posts: 825 , WI | Double Vision - 2012-01-12 4:24 PM Nicely done! Good luck & ride safe! Thank you! |
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Posts: 825 , WI | Tire - I have a Bridgestone Potenza Grid (195/55R16) on the bike now but the trip tire is going to be a Dunlop Winter Sport run flat snow tire. I am going to add a tire pressure monitor. 
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Central Wisconsin | Rollin' - 2012-01-12 10:12 PMTire -I have a Bridgestone Potenza Grid (195/55R16) on the bike now but the trip tire is going to be a Dunlop Winter Sport run flat snow tire.I am going to add a tire pressure monitor.
My Dunlop Winter Sport has 10,000 miles on it and still has good thread. You probably know this but just thought I'd mention it anyway, if you have outside sensors for your TPMS it's a good idea to have metal valve stems.
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Posts: 804 Perry Hall, MD | Rollin' - 2012-01-12 11:04 PM
lennyb - 2012-01-12 4:16 PM Rollin, You might want to check out latest photo posting and send PM to Claudio. Has some experience on gravel (2 up no less). Also wondering what the canister is that is attached to the left side of the engine. Canister?
Steve,
Look at any of his photos (in the Latest Gallery Additions right now) that show the left side of the engine. There appears to be a black thermos type canister attached there. Looks like there could be some gold printing on it, but can't tell how it is mounted. |
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Posts: 8144 New Bohemia, VA | My guess would be a thermos - what else could it be. I'm ready for another long ride... |
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Posts: 804 Perry Hall, MD | varyder - 2012-01-13 7:35 PM
My guess would be a thermos - what else could it be. I'm ready for another long ride...
Not sure, but it kind of looks like something Scotty used on the Enterprise. |
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Posts: 825 , WI | Nice picture! And a good point. I am going to use the valve stem style sensors. Thomas - 2012-01-13 2:47 PM Rollin' - 2012-01-12 10:12 PMTire -I have a Bridgestone Potenza Grid (195/55R16) on the bike now but the trip tire is going to be a Dunlop Winter Sport run flat snow tire.I am going to add a tire pressure monitor.
My Dunlop Winter Sport has 10,000 miles on it and still has good thread. You probably know this but just thought I'd mention it anyway, if you have outside sensors for your TPMS it's a good idea to have metal valve stems.
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Posts: 825 , WI | Tires - I am also going to have my Stop N Go tire plugging kit and the rope style plugs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCrRXYWm1Hg&feature=related And a small air compressor - 
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Posts: 785 Mt. Vernon, WASH. | If you are passing thru Watson Lake Y.T. be sure and 'appropriate' a sign from a locality near home to have put in the 'Forest of Signs' Park there, sort of a tradition going back to WW2. |
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Posts: 623
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Posts: 785 Mt. Vernon, WASH. | All it takes is 5 minutes, a 1/ inch or 9/16ths socket, and a quiet space in traffic some Sunday Morning the smaller, whit4e on green 8X12 or so 'PODUNK pop 1276' on a 4x4 are easiest to secrete away |
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Posts: 825 , WI | SYNSTR - 2012-01-14 12:07 PM If you are passing thru Watson Lake Y.T. be sure and 'appropriate' a sign from a locality near home to have put in the 'Forest of Signs' Park there, sort of a tradition going back to WW2. They have too many signs here, I don't think they will miss one. |
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Posts: 825 , WI | Breaker breaker - Cold, snow and ice today in SE Wisconsin so I was going to install my new no-ground plane CB antenna in the tour box but- 
my granddaughter stayed with us today and we had more important things to do. I'll try again tomorrow. 
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Posts: 825 , WI | Thomas - 2012-01-14 8:15 PM Did you get the 3' or 4' firestix? Your precious cargo looks like she might be an artist I'll be in West Allis tomorrow visiting our one week old great nephew. I bought the 3'. Lucy is an artist! |
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Posts: 8144 New Bohemia, VA | I may have missed it, where are you mounting the CB unit? I've got the trunk off and I just might keep it off, but I would like to put the comms back on with the CB. What headsets are you using? |
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Posts: 825 , WI | varyder - 2012-01-21 5:25 AM I may have missed it, where are you mounting the CB unit? I've got the trunk off and I just might keep it off, but I would like to put the comms back on with the CB. What headsets are you using? All of the CB equipment is going to be mounted in the tour box. Because there will be 100's of miles of no cell phone coverage I will have the CB with just for emergency's. 
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Posts: 8144 New Bohemia, VA | Rollin' - 2012-01-21 12:25 PM
varyder - 2012-01-21 5:25 AM I may have missed it, where are you mounting the CB unit? I've got the trunk off and I just might keep it off, but I would like to put the comms back on with the CB. What headsets are you using? All of the CB equipment is going to be mounted in the tour box. Because there will be 100's of miles of no cell phone coverage I will have the CB with just for emergency's. 
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Posts: 3006 San Antonio, TX | Rollin,
CB is fine....but an Amateur Radio license with a HF radio is the best way to go. Maybe you would like to get a license. If so, send me a PM if you are interested. FYI, Morse Code is no longer required for any license class.
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Posts: 825 , WI | varyder - 2012-01-21 11:30 AM Rollin' - 2012-01-21 12:25 PM varyder - 2012-01-21 5:25 AM I may have missed it, where are you mounting the CB unit? I've got the trunk off and I just might keep it off, but I would like to put the comms back on with the CB. What headsets are you using? All of the CB equipment is going to be mounted in the tour box. Because there will be 100's of miles of no cell phone coverage I will have the CB with just for emergency's. 10-4 Ramblin' Rocket, catch you on the flip...Reminds me of - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnRwQjTYfGI A long way to go and a short time to get there. |
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Posts: 825 , WI | radioteacher - 2012-01-21 9:11 PM Rollin, CB is fine....but an Amateur Radio license with a HF radio is the best way to go. Maybe you would like to get a license. If so, send me a PM if you are interested. FYI, Morse Code is no longer required for any license class. Ride Safe HF radio? One advantage of the CB is there is a lot of truck traffic on the Dalton Highway. |
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Posts: 102 Orlando | Tell me about your luggage rack and PAX backrest... Info on the place you bought it (them) from?
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Posts: 825 , WI | hdfed - 2012-01-22 7:34 AM Tell me about your luggage rack and PAX backrest... Info on the place you bought it (them) from?
I bought them at the dealer, they were Victory parts. For some reason Victory stopped making them. |
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Posts: 825 , WI | Fuel - I going to have two one gallon Reda gas cans secured in the T-Bag. 
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Posts: 763 Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | Rollin,
Are there really stretches between gas stations farther than the Vision's tank can carry you? Or, are the gas cans just for that warm and fuzzy feeling? |
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Posts: 825 , WI | victoryvisiontour - 2012-01-22 9:42 AM Rollin, Are there really stretches between gas stations farther than the Vision's tank can carry you? Or, are the gas cans just for that warm and fuzzy feeling? There is an area on the Dalton Highway where it is 240 miles between gas stations and I'm not sure what kind of fuel mileage I'm going to get. I had a 2 gallon auxiliary fuel tank on my Kingpin and I still came close to running out of gas because some needed gas stations in Canada were closed. So I would say yes, it's for peace of mind and it also lets me try to extend my fuel stops. |
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Posts: 623
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Plenty of truck traffic if you have a mechanical issue or need help. 4 months and 8 days till we roll for prudhoe!!! Feel like a kid waiting in Xmas!
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Posts: 4278
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If you like salmon you'll be in for a real treat. Boarder patrol really look had for drugs even x ray your tires. Keep in mid ever one caries a gun up there not so much for us but more for wild game.
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Posts: 825 , WI | jeffmack - 2012-01-22 10:43 AM Yeah man. Extra gas is a good thing on the daulton. Gas gets up to 8.00 a gallon in cold foot. We will be bringing in 5 gallons for the ride up the daulton Plenty of truck traffic if you have a mechanical issue or need help. 4 months and 8 days till we roll for prudhoe!!! Feel like a kid waiting in Xmas! http://wikitravel.org/upload/shared/1/1f/Dalton_Highway_Map.png[/QUOTE] Jeff, I agree!!! I can't wait. |
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Posts: 825 , WI | Speaking of off-road. Off-roadin' with my Jeep was my hobby. It's a very expensive hobby. This link is story about an easy ride in Utah. I didn't want to hurt my wife's Jeep - http://www.roadtripamerica.com/forum/showthread.php?21422-The-Shafer-Trail-Moab-Utah A few pictures of my Jeep - If I ever win the lottery I would do this again. It was fun! 




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Posts: 785 Mt. Vernon, WASH. | WORDS OF CAUTION!!! DO NOT, REPEAT, DO NOT Attempt to take a handgun into Canada!! They are illegal and banned and Mr. Mountie will take it,and possibly you away. Rifles are another matter. If you take prescription meds, have your Doctor write a letter on clinic or hospital letterhead stating that you must take XX and YYYY every day.
Contact the local Canadian Embassy or consulate and have them mail or E mail to you EXACTLY what goes and what doesn't, like more than a couple packs of smokes will be taken away. If you have EVER had a DWI (and they WILL check!)they will turn you back @ the border and deny you entrance to Canada. take your Passport or get an enhanced drivers license or else Unka Sugar won't let you back into the U.S.
Oh, and if you do become a 'guest' of the Provincial Government, I believe whipping of unruly prisoners is still allowed.
You might also look into renting a SAT Phone to be sure you can 'reach out and touch someone'
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Posts: 825 , WI | Weather - The person that posted this picture said it was taken on July 30th. It can snow any day of the year on the Dalton. 
Gear will be important. Could be hot in the south and very cold north, I added heated grips to my Vision 8-Ball and some simple wiring for my heated jacket liner and heated gloves. Hard wired at the battery and ends at the left saddle bag. It works but I have found that twisting my body isn't as easy anymore and it's a little harder to plug in than I thought. But I like simple - 

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National Geographic on tv has been showing Alaska state troopers and history of Alaska. Lots of wild life drugs and boozers. It looks like very wild country and some distance between major towns.
They just had a show on Donner pass 7 thousand foot high and how they tuck a steam boat to the town. Lots of history.
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Posts: 825 , WI | I had a 2 gallon auxiliary fuel tank made by Tour-Tank on my Kingpin. Very well made and worked great. I needed it 4 times on the 49 state trip. Sold it after I traded in the Kingpin. 
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Fountain Inn, SC United States | jeffmack - 2012-01-14 1:22 PM
awesome intel....will be sure to get such a sign...by some means....to add to the tradition. Thanks
Here's a sign to add the mix:
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Fountain Inn, SC United States | Steve - While I know you won't have internet access all the time, consider uploading photos and maybe keeping a travel blog as you go. Your account on Victory-Riders.com allows for uploading and/or emailing photos to your personal gallery as well as emailing blog posts. Also think about setting up a SPOT map. I can help you set up a map page on Victory-Riders (and this site) so all of us can follow you real-time.
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Posts: 965 New York State | Jedi Jeff - 2012-01-25 12:22 PM
Steve - While I know you won't have internet access all the time, consider uploading photos and maybe keeping a travel blog as you go. Your account on Victory-Riders.com allows for uploading and/or emailing photos to your personal gallery as well as emailing blog posts. Also think about setting up a SPOT map. I can help you set up a map page on Victory-Riders (and this site) so all of us can follow you real-time.
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| Jedi Jeff - 2012-01-25 12:22 PM
Steve - While I know you won't have internet access all the time, consider uploading photos and maybe keeping a travel blog as you go. Your account on Victory-Riders.com allows for uploading and/or emailing photos to your personal gallery as well as emailing blog posts. Also think about setting up a SPOT map. I can help you set up a map page on Victory-Riders (and this site) so all of us can follow you real-time.
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Posts: 825 , WI | jeffmack - 2012-01-25 5:46 PM Jedi Jeff - 2012-01-25 12:22 PM Steve - While I know you won't have internet access all the time, consider uploading photos and maybe keeping a travel blog as you go. Your account on Victory-Riders.com allows for uploading and/or emailing photos to your personal gallery as well as emailing blog posts. Also think about setting up a SPOT map. I can help you set up a map page on Victory-Riders (and this site) so all of us can follow you real-time. guess ill keep my trip to myself LOL just kidding Any trip details? Destinations? |
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Posts: 825 , WI | Jedi Jeff - 2012-01-25 12:22 PM Steve - While I know you won't have internet access all the time, consider uploading photos and maybe keeping a travel blog as you go. Your account on Victory-Riders.com allows for uploading and/or emailing photos to your personal gallery as well as emailing blog posts. Also think about setting up a SPOT map. I can help you set up a map page on Victory-Riders (and this site) so all of us can follow you real-time. Thanks Jeff! I will be using a Spot Tracker. |
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Posts: 825 , WI | Another thing I added to the Vision - floorboard footrests. I like them. Gives me another place to move my feet to and when it's hot I can move my feet away from the engine. They're made by Tri-City Polaris. 

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Posts: 825 , WI | Today in Proudhoe Bay, Alaska. Wow!! I hope it warms up a little. 
Edited by Rollin' 2012-01-27 9:57 AM
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| Rollin' - 2012-01-25 10:45 PM
jeffmack - 2012-01-25 5:46 PM Jedi Jeff - 2012-01-25 12:22 PM Steve - While I know you won't have internet access all the time, consider uploading photos and maybe keeping a travel blog as you go. Your account on Victory-Riders.com allows for uploading and/or emailing photos to your personal gallery as well as emailing blog posts. Also think about setting up a SPOT map. I can help you set up a map page on Victory-Riders (and this site) so all of us can follow you real-time. guess ill keep my trip to myself LOL just kidding ?Any trip details? Destinations?
Yeah man....Staging to Key West to depart on May 31st for Prudhoe Bay. Will be making the trip north somewhat of a Cannonball Run. Just making miles and getting there till we get to the Alcan where things will slow down as we get farther north. Planning on 10 day +/- 1 due to wx, mx, road condition. Once there its time to smell the roses. Gonna stroll home and take the Marine Highway from Haines to Prince Ruppert. Once in Prince ruppert he roll for Vancouver, Glacier NP, Yellow Stone NP, then back into Canada to hit Mont Tremblant and back into the US on the east side of the Great Lakes and get back into Georgia Via the Blue Ridge Parkway. Looking like a 12,000 trip. Will be back home for July the 4th! |
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Posts: 8144 New Bohemia, VA | okay, so I understand, Steve is starting at Prudhoe Bay and ending in Key West, and Jeff, you are starting at Key West and ending in Prudhoe Bay? Correct? Sounds like your trip will entail a little more travel, Jeff, than Steve as far as road goes. Can I ask you to start another thread and give us some details of your trip? If perhaps you are part of the Victory-Riders Network you can detail your trip there, the prep, route, etc, that would be nice. |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 825 , WI | jeffmack - 2012-01-28 8:58 AM Rollin' - 2012-01-25 10:45 PM jeffmack - 2012-01-25 5:46 PM Jedi Jeff - 2012-01-25 12:22 PM Steve - While I know you won't have internet access all the time, consider uploading photos and maybe keeping a travel blog as you go. Your account on Victory-Riders.com allows for uploading and/or emailing photos to your personal gallery as well as emailing blog posts. Also think about setting up a SPOT map. I can help you set up a map page on Victory-Riders (and this site) so all of us can follow you real-time. guess ill keep my trip to myself LOL just kidding ?Any trip details? Destinations? Yeah man....Staging to Key West to depart on May 31st for Prudhoe Bay. Will be making the trip north somewhat of a Cannonball Run. Just making miles and getting there till we get to the Alcan where things will slow down as we get farther north. Planning on 10 day +/- 1 due to wx, mx, road condition. Once there its time to smell the roses. Gonna stroll home and take the Marine Highway from Haines to Prince Ruppert. Once in Prince ruppert he roll for Vancouver, Glacier NP, Yellow Stone NP, then back into Canada to hit Mont Tremblant and back into the US on the east side of the Great Lakes and get back into Georgia Via the Blue Ridge Parkway. Looking like a 12,000 trip. Will be back home for July the 4th!Sounds like a great trip Jeff! Take a lot of pictures. My trip is going to be a lot quicker. I am also going to start in Key West, I was going to start in Prudhoe Bay but the reasons for doing that have changed. Quick trip from Key West to Prudhoe Bay and then a quick trip home. I think I will be on the road about 16 days, a little over 11,000 miles. I have a deal with my wife. I get to do my ride and then WE do a different trip, so I need to save some vacation. |
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Posts: 825 , WI | The ride from Key West to Prudhoe Bay is an IBA ride. The Ultimate Coast to Coast. (you can go either way) If you complete the ride you get an 8.5 x 11 certificate and this pin - 
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| Cool, now it looks like Rollin and I will be traveling the same route. 122 more days till last off! I will be sure to take many pics and keep a journal of the ride. I am no the VRN, but visit thevmc.com and this website mostly. Would be happy about sharing the experiences of the ride. Its been almost 2 years in the planning! cant believe its almost go time. |
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Posts: 785 Mt. Vernon, WASH. | Have either of you installed a handlebar camera mount? that way you can ride and still push the PHD (Push Here Dummy) button to record your progress, just take lotsa SD cards. |
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Posts: 825 , WI | SYNSTR - 2012-01-29 3:42 PM Have either of you installed a handlebar camera mount? that way you can ride and still push the PHD (Push Here Dummy) button to record your progress, just take lotsa SD cards. No handlebar camera but I do use a camera with a long neck strap - If I have any money left before the trip I might buy a GoPro camera. 
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Posts: 825 , WI | Not that I'm excited but I started packing today. The first project was to make a first aid kit. On past rides I would bring a bottle of Advil but on this ride a good first aid kit may be very important. It could be a long way to the next Walgreens. I found a small zip bag and added everything I thought I could need. Next I packed the Happy Trails tour box. I wanted to see what I could put in and how much it would weigh. I added my insulated pants, all of my rain gear, my heated jacket liner and gloves and the CB. I think I will be adding a support bracket from the luggage rack to the license plate bracket. A lot of storage area - 
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| 'started packing' love your enthusiasm - I would be packed by now LOL |
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| Rollin - I know you like to spend as little time as possible getting fuel. Did you buy one of those 'mccuff' fuel nozzle filler device from one of the sponsors here? I just got mine - but have not had a chance to use it [broken ankle ] It's the 'no spill, etc' ad at the top - |
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Posts: 825 , WI | 20 10 Vision - 2012-01-30 6:40 PM Rollin - I know you like to spend as little time as possible getting fuel. Did you buy one of those 'mccuff' fuel nozzle filler device from one of the sponsors here? I just got mine - but have not had a chance to use it [broken ankle ] It's the 'no spill, etc' ad at the top - I just need a match - I really haven't had a problem fueling the Vision and I think looking for the McCuff would add more time. (broken ankle?!!) 
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Posts: 785 Mt. Vernon, WASH. | Love the cartoon! I used to reffer to ACME while teaching and always got a chuckle out of the class. Then I'd point out that EVERYTHING supplied by ACME worked as advertised, it was just misapplied by the coyote. |
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Posts: 1229 Rancho Cucamonga, CA | Best of luck for everyones big trips. I'm getting very excited about my "49 states in 10 days" ride starting on May 16th in Needles, CA. ending in Hyder, AK. during Hyder-Seek. Got most of my farkles in place, Using the ROTOPAX fuel cell and First Aid pax (pic below). I had the Tri-City pegs on, but traded them out for the jbhatch pegs so that I would have a backup set of shifter/brake pegs if something should happen ( lost a shift peg on my HD during a LD ride, really sucked). Got a bar mounted CB, with a hidden antenna under the dash (pic below), not the same range, but in an emergency, I can pull it out and stretch it up for better range. GPS is loaded with the full route, and also all the individual waypoints for each states entry point. The guys at work will be tracking me thru my rLink locator. It is cellphone based, so it will be interesting to see how well it does on a trip like this. I hope to use them as a 'dial-up-navigators' to let me know if anything on the route has changed. They will also be making my hotel reservations for me as I go depending on when I feel the need to stop. I will be doing a warmup ride at the end of March to work out any kinks in the system by running a 'Border to Border' run from Tijuana, Mexico to Coutts, Canada in 24 hrs. If all works out well, my theory about the Vision will be proven. . . IBA rides on a Vision is cheating!
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Posts: 825 , WI | Nozzledog - 2012-01-31 1:43 AM Best of luck for everyones big trips. I'm getting very excited about my "49 states in 10 days" ride starting on May 16th in Needles, CA. ending in Hyder, AK. during Hyder-Seek. Got most of my farkles in place, Using the ROTOPAX fuel cell and First Aid pax (pic below). I had the Tri-City pegs on, but traded them out for the jbhatch pegs so that I would have a backup set of shifter/brake pegs if something should happen ( lost a shift peg on my HD during a LD ride, really sucked). Got a bar mounted CB, with a hidden antenna under the dash (pic below), not the same range, but in an emergency, I can pull it out and stretch it up for better range. GPS is loaded with the full route, and also all the individual waypoints for each states entry point. The guys at work will be tracking me thru my rLink locator. It is cellphone based, so it will be interesting to see how well it does on a trip like this. I hope to use them as a 'dial-up-navigators' to let me know if anything on the route has changed. They will also be making my hotel reservations for me as I go depending on when I feel the need to stop. I will be doing a warmup ride at the end of March to work out any kinks in the system by running a 'Border to Border' run from Tijuana, Mexico to Coutts, Canada in 24 hrs. If all works out well, my theory about the Vision will be proven. . . IBA rides on a Vision is cheating! Nice setup Darrel!! CB looks like it should work great. What's the capacity of the spare fuel tank? Good luck on the ride. I'm looking forward to the stories and pictures. |
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| nozzledog - do you have some type of 'hose' to get the fuel from the 'spare gas tank' into the main tank?
'warm up ride border to border' you know you and Rollin are killing us armchair bike driver's and wanna be IBA types, right? LOL
Rollin - the 'mccuff' comes with a nylon pouch and a 'belt type loop' so it can be mounted for e-z access.
re: broken ankle - to embarassing to explain here what happened - careless on my part - won't happen again [knock on wood LOL ] |
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Posts: 1229 Rancho Cucamonga, CA | The Rotopax fuel cells are simply a gas can with a hole thru the center so they can be mounted securely with quick access. A quarter turn of the handle and it can easily be removed for use. They were originally designed for off road use, so I think it can handle the rigors of LD riding. The one I bought holds 2 gallons. They make many sizes and as you can tell, they are stackable. |
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Posts: 825 , WI | Tires - I am going to use a Dunlop run-flat snow tire on the rear, because of this I ordered a TireGard tire pressure monitoring system. Simple system. Easy to install, and easy to remove the wheel sensors if I have to add a tire sealant. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0gR8zOhJeA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Gxylq3pkI&feature=related . |
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Posts: 494 Akron Ohio area | Once again, I wish you good luck and great weather.
I've decided to compete in the "American Motorcycle Rally" for my main chalenge this year. |
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Posts: 825 , WI | bigfoot - 2012-02-01 9:49 PM Once again, I wish you good luck and great weather. I've decided to compete in the "American Motorcycle Rally" for my main chalenge this year. Thank you and good luck also on the Rally. I've never done a rally but they look like they could be fun. More to them than putting on miles. Making any changes to the bike? |
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Posts: 825 , WI | A little more detail on the belt guard. Because of the extra length and weight there is a front support. All hardware near the belt is mounted away from the belt. 
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Posts: 825 , WI | Cruise control - Cruise control - The 8-Ball doesn't have cruise control, I've never had a bike with cruise control. There are times that I like to lock the throttle. Adjusting jacket vents, taking pictures. I was using a BrakeAway throttle lock but it doesn't work well with the heated grips so for this trip I'm going to use the Go Cruise throttle control. I like simple - http://www.2wheelride.com/throttle_pro.html . |
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Posts: 51 lakes region, NH | Look at my post for a fender extender. I just shaped a piece of alum. flashing and glued it inside the front fender using silicone to keep the mud off the battery. Good luck on your ride I'm envious! |
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Posts: 825 , WI | Ordered more parts yesterday. Trying to spread the costs out. 16 day trips can be expensive!!
I ordered a new front tire, the TireGard tire pressure monitor system and a front mud flat. Starting the trip with 2 new tires.
The to-do list is getting a little shorter. |
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Central Wisconsin | Rollin' - 2012-02-05 11:54 AM Ordered more parts yesterday. Trying to spread the costs out. 16 day trips can be expensive!! I ordered a new front tire, the TireGard tire pressure monitor system and a front mud flat. Starting the trip with 2 new tires. The to-do list is getting a little shorter. Just curious what tire you ordered for the front?
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Posts: 825 , WI | Getting ready - The pace I'm hoping to do this ride at close to the same pace that I did the 49 state ride. During the 49 state ride I HAD to average 880 miles a day for 10 days, on this ride I would LIKE to average 800 miles a day. It's nice to have an option on this ride. I'm not getting any younger so I would also like to try a few more 1000 mile days during the UCC. A few more IBA certs while I can and if I can. To ride 800 miles a day, day after day and 1000 mile days when possible does require some endurance. And to achieve that endurance I need to workout. Every year for the past 10 years I start picking up the workout pace on January 2nd. 60 sit-ups a day everyday plus a little of everything else - everyday! I made a workout room, it's small but it has what I need and it gives me a place for pictures and other reminders of why I need to stay in shape. Losing a few pounds would be nice also. 

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Posts: 825 , WI | Thomas - 2012-02-05 12:16 PM Rollin' - 2012-02-05 11:54 AM Ordered more parts yesterday. Trying to spread the costs out. 16 day trips can be expensive!! I ordered a new front tire, the TireGard tire pressure monitor system and a front mud flat. Starting the trip with 2 new tires. The to-do list is getting a little shorter. Just curious what tire you ordered for the front?
I'm going to stay with the Dunlop Elite 3. I'm not going to have time to test any tires before the ride. |
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Posts: 825 , WI | More gadgets - Rubber mudflap - Go-Cruise throttle lock - New and improved TireGard tire pressure monitor - Ben's insect repellant, 98.11% DEET. 
Edited by Rollin' 2012-02-19 12:49 AM
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Posts: 2027 Brighton, TN | Now just use your video camera to capture scenic spots of being on the road and you can travel right along as you workout. Looks good! Need to do more of the workout thing myself. Not sure where I get that extra hour or two. Time to go on hunt! |
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| Rollin' - 2012-02-19 12:37 AM
More gadgets - Rubber mudflap - Go-Cruise throttle lock - New and improved TireGard tire pressure monitor - Ben's insect repellant, 98.11% DEET. 
New and improved Tiregard? Do you know what the improvements are?
I'm seriously considering the Hawkshead Moto-Track unit....
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Posts: 825 , WI | Turk - 2012-02-21 12:46 PM Rollin' - 2012-02-19 12:37 AM More gadgets - Rubber mudflap - Go-Cruise throttle lock - New and improved TireGard tire pressure monitor - Ben's insect repellant, 98.11% DEET. New and improved Tiregard? Do you know what the improvements are? I'm seriously considering the Hawkshead Moto-Track unit.... They claim - improved wheel sensors and includes a cover - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Gxylq3pkI&feature=related |
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Posts: 825 , WI | Testing - I have had the Stop & Go tire plugger for 5 years but I have never needed it. Time to see if it works. Drilled a 3/16" hole in a used tire and did a little practice plugging. 




It works!! 
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Posts: 965 New York State | http://www.ride-oncanada.com/
This is an interesting product you might be interested in |
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| <p>Be careful of the mud flap have read where guys have cracked the fender cause of it. Tire plug looks great I hope this is the only time you have to use it is on the work bench</p><p>Harley used plastic and rubber for a belt protector for many years and I know it saved mine many times. <br /></p>
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Posts: 825 , WI | john frey - 2012-02-26 6:06 PM Be careful of the mud flap have read where guys have cracked the fender cause of it. Tire plug looks great I hope this is the only time you have to use it is on the work bench Harley used plastic and rubber for a belt protector for many years and I know it saved mine many times.
Thanks John, I hope I don't need it. I'm glad I tried it, it did take a few tries to get it right. Still thinking about the mud flap. I think it will help but I am worried about the fender. |
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Posts: 825 , WI | I also ordered a new helmet. I didn't know I needed a new helmet until I saw this - The new Shoei Neotec. A Shoei with an internal sun shield!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91hcAkADjRo&feature=youtu.be . |
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Posts: 494 Akron Ohio area | For that trip I think I would go with Ride On.
Check out the video.
http://www.ride-on.com/motorcycle-formula-mot.html |
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Posts: 825 , WI | bigfoot - 2012-02-26 10:10 PM For that trip I think I would go with Ride On. Check out the video. http://www.ride-on.com/motorcycle-formula-mot.html Looks like a good product but I'm not sure it would be a good thing to use with the tire pressure monitors.
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Posts: 1229 Rancho Cucamonga, CA | Rollin' - 2012-02-26 8:31 PM
bigfoot - 2012-02-26 10:10 PM For that trip I think I would go with Ride On. Check out the video. http://www.ride-on.com/motorcycle-formula-mot.html Looks like a good product but I'm not sure it would be a good thing to use with the tire pressure monitors. ?
No problem using it with external sensors. I use it as my dynamic balancer also (instead of dynabeads). |
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| Rollin' - 2012-02-01 9:03 AM Tires - I am going to use a Dunlop run-flat snow tire on the rear, because of this I ordered a TireGard tire pressure monitoring system. Simple system. Easy to install, and easy to remove the wheel sensors if I have to add a tire sealant. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0gR8zOhJeA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Gxylq3pkI&feature=related What I think will be interesting with your Tire Guard Monitor is to see how much lower the tire tempeture will be with the CT. Let us know how much you notice. I had a Bridgestone Potenza on my 650 Burgman and to the hand it always felt like it was less than half the tempeture of the front tire. It would be nice if you could check your tire tempeture on the stock tire before you mount your CT. . |
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Posts: 825 , WI | New gear - Picked up my new Shoei Neotec. A lot of nice features. Internal sun shield, pinlock visor and large vents. 

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Posts: 785 Mt. Vernon, WASH. | I'm sorry, but $600 bones is just about a wee bit outside my price range for a friggin' helmet. Instead of NEO-TEC it should be called BENDOVER, not on the radar for a retired guy on a fixed income! |
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Posts: 3204 Memphis | If you racked up the miles like Steve does, it would be some of the best money spent. They really are that much more comfortable and well made. I bought a Shoei last year and I can't tell you what the second best helmet I ever owned was. They all run together. It's a whole different level. I wouldn't believe it if I didn't own one. |
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Posts: 965 New York State | Full face helmets protect your brain and your face if you do not value either why spend $600.00 to protect them ?
Life is about choices |
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Posts: 825 , WI | SongFan - 2012-03-03 7:19 PM If you?racked up the miles like Steve does, it would be some of?the best money spent.? They really are that much more comfortable and well made.? I bought a Shoei last year and I can't tell you what the second best helmet I ever owned was.? They all run together.? It's?a whole different level.? I wouldn't believe it if I didn't own one.
Yes, money well spent! This helmet is very expensive and this ride will be very expensive but I am "all in!" I was going to buy a Shoei in 2010 before the 49 state ride but they did not make a helmet with an internal sun shield so I bought a Nolen N103. The Nolen is a nice helmet but it did not fit my head as well as the Shoei . It put pressure on my forehead, which was painfull day after day. Because of some lingering health issues, that I will finally have to deal with (after the ride), I think this?may be my last long ride. Nothing life threatening but it will effect my riding. I hope it's not but if it is? - no regrets, it's been a hell of a ride. It would be nice to start this ride in 100% physical condition, that's not going to happen. I am going to do everything else I can to make this ride successful so that there are no regreats. ? |
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Posts: 785 Mt. Vernon, WASH. | I've got a SHOEI 3/4 that works JUST FINE Thank You. I used to wear a SHOEI full face but it was A) too claustrophobic (I can't stand the bed sheet on my face) and B) I got tired of having an always sweaty head |
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Posts: 825 , WI | My new awesome mud flat. I have a 900 pound dirt bike! 


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Posts: 825 , WI | 20 10 Vision - 2012-03-16 8:07 PM Looks solid. It will serve you well. Yes! Very solid. I also removed the plastic upper fender pins and replaced them with the same hardware. |
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Posts: 825 , WI | JGates - 2012-03-17 2:54 PM Looks good, what was the hardware that you used? It's a stainless steel anti-theft license plate kit called Rattle Stop. Bought the kits at AutoZone. |
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Posts: 825 , WI | Because of the extra weight of the mud flap I was worried that the fender might break so I made some changes.
I added a washer to the side bolts and I replaced the the upper plastic push-in pins with more secure hardware and added two more in the upper center. All of the hardware is stainless steel and was installed with blue Locktite. 
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Posts: 825 , WI | Yes!!!! Everyday I pack a little more.
It's warming up in Prudhoe Bay. Current temps, Prudhoe Bay - 14 and snow - Key West - 80! |
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Posts: 8144 New Bohemia, VA | Is the fender easily removed and installed as a single unit? |
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Posts: 825 , WI | varyder - 2012-05-07 11:45 AM Is the fender easily removed and installed as a single unit? Not sure, but it looks like it should. . |
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Posts: 825 , WI | Almost ready to go - 
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Central Wisconsin | Almost ready to go - Nice set-up! Looks like you have an interesting dash/handlebar/electronic configuration. |
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Posts: 785 Mt. Vernon, WASH. | Well, call you the breeze.......looks like it's all out of the slipstream, any tendencies towards being tail heavy? |
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Posts: 825 , WI | Thomas - 2012-05-31 8:07 AM Almost ready to go - Nice set-up! Looks like you have an interesting dash/handlebar/electronic configuration. I have a GPS, EZPass and a Spot Tracker. |
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Posts: 825 , WI | SYNSTR - 2012-05-31 9:06 AM Well, call you the breeze.......looks like it's all out of the slipstream, any tendencies towards being tail heavy? I took it for a ride fully loaded and no problems. The tour bag on the seat is heavy. The rear box has bulky items that are light. . |
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