|
|
Puddle Jumper
Posts: 23
Temecula, California | I found this sketch at the Goldwing riders forum. Don't even ask how I got there.
The Goldwinnie boys didn't know what to make of it. Some liked it while most knocked it.
I don't know anything about it, thought maybe some of you guy's would know something about it.
(2013 Victory Vision 3.bmp)
Attachments
----------------
 2013 Victory Vision 3.bmp (90KB - 31 downloads)
|
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA | It's one of the original concept drawings from 2006-07 timeframe. |
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA | like Varyder said... this is actually a OLD drawing. |
|
| |
|
Iron Butt
Posts: 669
Peachtree City, GA | BINGO
|
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 4278
| I wouldn't mind a XC front end |
|
| |
|
Tourer
Posts: 444
Bay of Gigs, WA | Reminds me of a Honda Pacifica, and you all may know how well THEY sold...
|
|
| |
|
Cruiser
Posts: 188
Tifton, GA | It was in a survey by a research company about touring bikes that I filled out last night. Interesting fact was it said Japanese made motorcycle and some very cutting edge accessory/options were involved. Cruise Control that maintained safe following distance, traction control, were a couple that come to mind. |
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 1350
| That was one of many pictures on the wall during the 10th Anniversary Vision owners meeting in Daytona almost 3 years ago. You have to understand GW owners are "OLD" people with every DQ locations loaded into the GPS. :p Plus the trunk is the correct size for a box of Depends. O.o |
|
| |
|
Tourer
Posts: 324
New Orleans, La, | For 2013 I think Victory will follow the lead of the other successful touring giants and make evolutionary changes rather than revolutionary changes. I personally would like less mechanical noise from the engine and better fitting body panels. I would also like to see some improvement in the mirror function with maybe a slight rethink of the faring shape but make sure it is evolution looking and not radically revolutionary cause Visions farings have character, women like character. :-) |
|
| |
|
Fountain Inn, SC United States | Since Polaris now owns electric vehicle technology (Global Electric and Goupil Industrie), a revolutionary powerplant is within reach. It might not be suited to a touring bike, but certainly could be viable in an around-town cruiser. Torque of electric motors is insane and instantaneous!
|
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 1350
| Electric powered vehicle. Many years ago Leo Laporte had an electric car on the Screensavers. It had 1000 Lithium Ion batteries from cell phones in it, It took off like a bat out of hell. If they can come up with battery powered scooters and small M/Cs I think they would sell in city areas. The downside is the price of electricity keeps rising and now they plan to close several coal burning plants. I guess Warren Buffet read the writing on the wall months ago when he bought a boat load of energy stocks.
When gas prices jumped a few years ago my local dealer sold several Polaris electric scooters. Can we call them scooters? Wheels on a skateboard with a steering handle. |
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 4278
| My dealer all ready has a electric bike. It looks like a dirt bike and it came from Italy I believe. You just know there coming sooner then we think.
Think of this patten every sound you can think of. Why cause the government will make any electric car or bike make some kinda noise. If they didn't blind people would not know your there or some one not paying attention would be run over in a cross walk.
So if you owned the right sound maybe you could make some money. |
|
| |
|
Tourer
Posts: 373
Lansing, MI |
The 2013 Vision is going to look almost the same with bigger bags, a quick disconnect trunk and a 114" engine. |
|
| |
|
Puddle Jumper
Posts: 24
Alberta | For future Victory Visions I would also like to see just evolutionary changes. Look at how the Goldwing and Electra Glides have just kept improving on 30 and 40 year old designs. Year after year keep improving the quality of fit and finish and functionality of the bike. |
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA | cook06vegas - 2011-12-24 6:59 AM
The 2013 Vision is going to look almost the same with bigger bags, a quick disconnect trunk and a 114" engine.
I've heard this rumor too. If there is no extertior redesign, I would believe this to be true. |
|
| |
|
Tourer
Posts: 307
Columbia, SC | cook06vegas - 2011-12-24 6:59 AM
The 2013 Vision is going to look almost the same with bigger bags, a quick disconnect trunk and a 114" engine.I would think this would be a good direction to go. Although I don't think a 114 is necessary. Our powerplant is more than enough to tour two-up, and a bigger engine would just make fuel mileage worse. But I did hear the forum rumors of redesigning the saddlebags/hinges to give them a little room and making the trunk more along the lines of the Cross Country disconnect.
Alexi |
|
| |
|
Tourer
Posts: 373
Lansing, MI |
The differanceib MPG would be little to none and there's no such thing as too much power, IMO... |
|
| |
|
Cruiser
Posts: 273
Midlothian, Va. | <img border="0" width="570" height="321" src="http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/165216_167619439949345_100001038699082_354559_7167826_n.jpg" />I like this one
Edited by Biscuit 2011-12-25 11:57 AM
(165216_167619439949345_100001038699082_354559_7167826_n[1].jpg)
Attachments
----------------
165216_167619439949345_100001038699082_354559_7167826_n[1].jpg (35KB - 17 downloads)
|
|
| |
|
New user
Posts: 4
| I can say for myself that I am not looking to win any races with a touring bike. Matter of fact the best thing is that they are in a category different from the sport bikes that have gain the attention of every law enforcement agency in this country because of how they ride. Now as far as looks I like the look of the current vision tour but, I refuse to buy a touring bike with small storage saddle bags. Secondly I have to agree that I like to get the gas mileage because I am touring. I make the same considerations when traveling with the family in a vehicle. Give me things that make my touring functional and dazzle me at the same time if you can is how I often think of it. A little more range on the windshield would be nice and don't forget the quick release on the trunk, plus keep the price the same the first year and watch the sales soar. Just my opinion. |
|
| |
|
Cruiser
Posts: 215
W'ford Tx | More than likely it's because Harley offers a 110ci in their electra glides and ultra classics. Victory offering a 114ci although only slightly smaller would give it an edge on the sales floor. "This ones cheaper and has a bigger engine" to draw over the harley owners. |
|
| |
|
New user
Posts: 1
| I for one, would be very interested in a Vision with better storage. It would be unbeatable with a X-bike front end (inverted fork, etc...). The bigger engine would be interesting, but based on my test ride, the bike really does not need it. Of course, you can never have too much horsepower or torque! |
|
| |
|
Puddle Jumper
Posts: 13
Saint George, Utah | When does Victory release the new model year generaly? Ive waited this long, maybe I will wait some more if these changes prove to be valid. |
|
| |
|
Tourer
Posts: 373
Lansing, MI |
I think the dealers have a meeting in July and info is usually released soon after... |
|
| |
|
Puddle Jumper
Posts: 13
Saint George, Utah | Thank you sir |
|
| |
|
Tourer
Posts: 373
Lansing, MI |
No prob, just hope my memory is up to snuff. One thing I know for sure, some time later this year... |
|
| |
|
New user
Posts: 4
Fremont, CA | Hmmm, now you fellows have me concerned. I just plopped down $ 500.00 at Arlen Ness in Dublin for a dark blue 2012 Vision. Is there any chance I should be waiting for 2013 (the bike is still in Iowa and won?t be delivered until the 24th)? The wife loves the seat for her rather petite hind quarters, but was bitchin about the cargo area. We have ridden both a Road Sling and a Standard, but the Vision is more than night and day different. That morphodite of a touring pack has to go, which leaves only the modified glove compartments to store anything. Other than that, I love this bike?
Has anyone seen, or can verify that the storage area will be larger on a 2013? I need facts, as this will probably put me months away from getting the bike. Will there be a quick release on the trunk? She doesn?t give a crap on looks, and was looking forward to an afternoon nap with surround sound. But I ride daily to and from work, and really need to dismount the add-ons on a Sunday night....
|
|
| |
|
Tourer
Posts: 307
Columbia, SC | Buy a hitch and do this....
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/616IaMQS%2BKL._SL500_AA300_.j...
Then you can put extra storage when you need it (can strap down a small box or cooler), and take it off when you don't.
Alexi
Edited by sfalexi 2012-05-09 8:40 PM
|
|
| |
|
Tourer
Posts: 495
Carrollton, TX | cook06vegas - 2011-12-24 5:59 AM The 2013 Vision is going to look almost the same with bigger bags, a quick disconnect trunk and a 114" engine. This is the first I have heard of the 114 engine. I heard it will be a 116 and that engine has been in development for sometime. |
|
| |
|
Tourer
Posts: 373
Lansing, MI | tscheel - 2012-05-09 4:39 PM
Hmmm, now you fellows have me concerned. I just plopped down $ 500.00 at Arlen Ness in Dublin for a dark blue 2012 Vision. Is there any chance I should be waiting for 2013 (the bike is still in Iowa and won?t be delivered until the 24th)? The wife loves the seat for her rather petite hind quarters, but was bitchin about the cargo area. We have ridden both a Road Sling and a Standard, but the Vision is more than night and day different. That morphodite of a touring pack has to go, which leaves only the modified glove compartments to store anything. Other than that, I love this bike?
Has anyone seen, or can verify that the storage area will be larger on a 2013? I need facts, as this will probably put me months away from getting the bike. Will there be a quick release on the trunk? She doesn?t give a crap on looks, and was looking forward to an afternoon nap with surround sound. But I ride daily to and from work, and really need to dismount the add-ons on a Sunday night....
Nothing has been confirmed. We're just guessing. There's a good chance Vic won't change a damn thing.
The trunk is not that hard to get off and put back on. It's four bolts and a wire plug. Use it when you need it, take it off when you don't.
Here's a video, check it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71_S6JtETR8
Edited by cook06vegas 2012-05-09 9:14 PM
|
|
| |
|
Iron Butt
Posts: 1109
| I'm thinking about a new Vision, I'll wait and see what the 2013 looks like. |
|
| |
|
New user
Posts: 4
Fremont, CA | Guess I?ll stick to my original plan then, and get the 2012. I could have gotten black, or the Ness bike that day. I almost bought a blue bike, Nevada model, in Laughlin a couple of weeks ago, but thought there would be major issues with California DMV. I knew I was hooked after riding a Hammer 650 miles in one day and could still standup right when I got home. I can hardly wait to ride this Cadillac, as I believe my biggest problem may be helmet hair. We?ll see in a couple of weeks?.
I must also say it is the easiest vehicle I have ever bought. Went to the dealer checking interest rates, and left 30 minutes later with the bike ordered. Before I could even get my game face on, they dropped the price to $2000.00 and wouldn?t let me sign the papers last week. The finance guy said I needed to come back this Saturday, as the Victory semi would be there, and they would give me another $ 1000.00 off coupon. If this all falls in place, I will ask them to negotiate my next car purchase..
|
|
| |
|
Tourer
Posts: 373
Lansing, MI |
Glad to hear you had a good experiance with the dealer...
Did you check that Video I posted above?
~Matt.
|
|
| |
|
Cruiser
Posts: 154
Cabot Arkansas | They better NOT bump the engine up. I just bought a 2012 cause I just love the black over sunset red color.If they make all the lights led's with hid headlight and bump the engine while keeping the same look (I don't give a rat's ass if the bags are bigger)I guess my wife will be riding the 2012 and I'll have a new 2013  |
|
| |
|
New user
Posts: 4
Fremont, CA |
Yes, thank you. Its not like removing a tour pack from an Electra, but it doesnt appear to be to hard an activity. I just really hate the looks of that thing, so will probably get a backrest/lugage rack very soon. I had a standard, and never had the tour pack. The wife always found the T-Bag to be a better option, and it allows me to remove accesories when I am not using them... |
|
| |
|
Tourer
Posts: 373
Lansing, MI |
You're welcome! I don't like it either but when the wife and I go, it's nice. Plus it's HUGE inside, don't forget junk can be stuffed into the neck under the access cover and the lid is domed on the inside so you have to remember that when you load the trunk you can "mound" it up. Plus there's a light, a 12V outlet, it's watertight, lockable and you can get mirror for the old lady. Get a rack from Will at CycleOps and put another bag on top...
|
|
| |
|
Cruiser
Posts: 62
Des Moines | Heh, I must be about the only Vision owner that actually LIKES the look of the trunk. |
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA | emanIA - 2012-05-11 12:23 PM Heh, I must be about the only Vision owner that actually LIKES the look of the trunk. Nah, I like it. I like it better without the trunk, the Street look does a lot for the bike. One thing about the trunk is the looks and practability compared to the other bikes. I'm starting to dislike the square looks of the other brands, so I don't have a problem with the high-pod look of the Vision trunk. |
|
| |
|
Cruiser
Posts: 118
Spfld, IL but temp Bay area, CA | I was told at a Demo ride over a year ago, the side bags would be enlarged on the 13s. The outside will still look the same but they have done some engineering and able to make the inside quite a bit larger. There is absolutely nothing wrong with my 08, but bigger side bags, easily detachable trunk, and a little more travel on the windshield, I may have to consider upgrading. |
|
| |
|
Puddle Jumper
Posts: 19
| The most requested improvement would have to be larger saddle bags. I think quick release larger saddle bags would be great. I usually struggle taking out and putting back in the saddle bag liners, which is a pain in wet weather. As for more power or torque there are exhaust and cam mods etc.
The sound system could have some improvements to the antenna and speakers. I believe the harley has a better sound system.
Edited by AUSIE JACK 2012-05-13 4:28 AM
|
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA | emanIA - 2012-05-11 11:23 AM
Heh, I must be about the only Vision owner that actually LIKES the look of the trunk.
i have owned (2) visions and i never removed my trunk! i like the look of it. and Now i installed a trunk rack and the 99 leds brake light mod so its even more "different" looking with those 99 led lights. With out the trunk the vision's storage is just about useless.. i use my trunk more than i use the side storage. hell one of my compartments is already full (doesnt take much) with rain gear. plus i would hate to only listen to my radio with 2 speakers. there are just too man gains for me to remove my trunk.. |
|
| |
|
Tourer
Posts: 394
Tucson, AZ | I only have my tour pack on in the winter time so I can store my full face. The rest of the year it comes off. I think the bike handles better and is a sharper looking bike with it off. |
|
| |
|
Tourer
Posts: 307
Columbia, SC | Gray rider - 2012-05-13 11:48 AM
I only have my tour pack on in the winter time so I can store my full face. The rest of the year it comes off. I think the bike handles better and is a sharper looking bike with it off.Just my opinion right now (pretty sure it's true though), but a bike's handling is just based on your experience with the bike. As in, I'm sure if you left the tour pack on or trunk on, you could adjust and handle the vision just as well. The wheelbase is the same no matter WHAT accessories are on, and you would/could just adjust to the weight and dimensions.
Myself, I think I'm going to get a hitch and carrier that attaches to the hitch if I need extra room. It's pretty rare I need more than the trunk, but the hitch and carrier should be fine for those rare occasions where I do.
Alexi |
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA | sfalexi - 2012-05-13 11:41 AM
Gray rider - 2012-05-13 11:48 AM
I only have my tour pack on in the winter time so I can store my full face. The rest of the year it comes off. I think the bike handles better and is a sharper looking bike with it off.Just my opinion right now (pretty sure it's true though), but a bike's handling is just based on your experience with the bike. As in, I'm sure if you left the tour pack on or trunk on, you could adjust and handle the vision just as well. The wheelbase is the same no matter WHAT accessories are on, and you would/could just adjust to the weight and dimensions.
Myself, I think I'm going to get a hitch and carrier that attaches to the hitch if I need extra room. It's pretty rare I need more than the trunk, but the hitch and carrier should be fine for those rare occasions where I do.
Alexi
i completely agree with you.. all the road tests you see on the vision was with a trunk and they never had any problems with it ... so if a person as a problem with how the bike handles just because it had a trunk then the problem is not the bike its the rider...
i also use my trunk to charge my cellphone, grocery shop, carry bigger items securely, and add speakers like i said before. plus i store my air pump and patch kit with tools inside the door where they cd player would hide. if i didnt have my trunk i would have a motorcycle with very weak storage. storage (touring) is one of my main reasons for buying this bike in the first place. but to each their own. =) at least the trunk is removable and you can have that option.. |
|
| |
|
Tourer
Posts: 394
Tucson, AZ | Maybe I should restate my comment. I've never had a problem with the way the bike handles. I said, in my HUMBLE opinion, the bike handles BETTER with the trunk off. You've got an extra 40 pounds on the rear of the bike and the weight is centered up pretty high. Besides if you've never had your trunk off, how do you know it doesn't handle differently? |
|
| |
|
Tourer
Posts: 495
Carrollton, TX | sfalexi - 2012-05-09 8:37 PM Buy a hitch and do this.... http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/616IaMQS%2BKL._SL500_AA300_.j... Then you can put extra storage when you need it (can strap down a small box or cooler), and take it off when you don't. Alexi I have Gold Wing friends that have done this but one of the issues of doing this on the Vision is that the cargo you put on this tray will block in part or all of the rear brake and turning lights. A friend of mine has a hitch on his Vision and tried one of these trays and has this issue. This is an issue unique to the Vision. I have taken the trunk off a couple of times but I like the storage it provides, the rear speakers and having my CB radio and intercom. |
|
| |
|
Cruiser
Posts: 102
Jal NM | I have removed my trunk and road for over 3000 mile that way and then put it back on and she handles the wind better and gets a little better fuil milage with it on than with out. Just what I have found with my bike. |
|
| |
|
Tourer
Posts: 373
Lansing, MI | Spock - 2012-05-14 12:08 AM
sfalexi - 2012-05-09 8:37 PM Buy a hitch and do this.... http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/616IaMQS%2BKL._SL500_AA300_.j... Then you can put extra storage when you need it (can strap down a small box or cooler), and take it off when you don't. Alexi I have Gold Wing friends that have done this but one of the issues of doing this on the Vision is that the cargo you put on this tray will block in part or all of the rear brake and turning lights. A friend of mine has a hitch on his Vision and tried one of these trays and has this issue. This is an issue unique to the Vision. I have taken the trunk off a couple of times but I like the storage it provides, the rear speakers and having my CB radio and intercom.
Just make a bracket with taillights on it, mount it to the "tray" and wire them up with flat four plug, wire the bike... Then you're completly ready to pull a trailer if ya want...
Problem solved!
|
|
| |
|
Iron Butt
Posts: 612
| SkooterRob - 2012-05-14 12:33 AM
I have removed my trunk and road for over 3000 mile that way and then put it back on and she handles the wind better and gets a little better fuil milage with it on than with out. Just what I have found with my bike.
+1 Agree!
While I ride with my trunk off most of the time, I have discovered the same thing..... she does get better mileage and better top speed with the trunk ON! That thing was designed for aerodynamic efficiency, so it manages the wind better with it on than without it.
Edited by Turk 2012-05-14 9:01 AM
|
|
| |