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Wichita, Kansas | I won't even comment on these. It speaks for itself: http://www.epiflex.com/sidekicks.html |
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Iron Butt
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| I don't see a pic but I think I know what you're talking about. I've seen a few fake trikes,for lack of a better word. |
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Northern NJ | I've seen those used by riders that have become handicapped and can't start on 2 wheels alone. |
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Barrington, NH | I've never seen those before, I've always seen the ones that come off the rearend, kinda like a trike but still driven by the stock wheel. |
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Texass | There are many riders who have become handicapped for one reason or another - no need to make fun of devices that still enable them to ride - at least they are riding!! |
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Tourer
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Indianapolis, IN | Not for the typical rider but a real blessing for our disabled veterans who still want to hang with and run with their friends out on the open road. |
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Iron Butt
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Perry Hall, MD | Doesn't look like this version is for a handicapped rider. Unless I'm missing something it sounds like the rider has to use their feet to push down on the outriggers. Fine for stop and go traffic I guess, but I'm missing the point for other applications unless they're for someone with seriously short legs. |
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Iron Butt
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| Actually the people I saw riding with outriggers attached were women with short legs. From what I understand, they can be a handful around corners. |
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Northern NJ | kris1956 - 2011-11-23 10:54 AM
Actually the people I saw riding with outriggers attached were women with short legs. From what I understand, they can be a handful around corners.
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Iron Butt
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| K2V2 - 2011-11-23 12:31 PM kris1956 - 2011-11-23 10:54 AM Actually the people I saw riding with outriggers attached were women with short legs. From what I understand, they can be a handful around corners. The women? LOL, maybe. I overheard one of them talking about the suspension and how it bottomed out. |
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Ruskin, Fl | Neat concept. I watched the youtube video, but I am curious if you start to lean too far for some reason while you are stopped how much leg strenth is required to hold it up. |
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Orlando, FL | Guy here in Orlando makes a better set that is kinda nice. Especially for injured vets, people with balance issues when stopped, etc. Small wheels automatically go down when the bike stops. And retract when you start to go. When up they are hidden. All computer chip controlled. He even put a set on a Vision for a guy in the Mid Atlantic area. |
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Wichita, Kansas | Roadkill & Hoosiervic - Let me expand on my sig block. I retired after 31 years in the army with a combat tour in Vietnam in a unit which took several casualties in and around Happy Valley. I retired in 2008 and my last assignment was as training NCO for a National Guard unit which got deployed just before I retired. I lost 4 of my men and had 12 come back with permanent disabilities, so I guarantee you I was not making fun of any disabled vet or civilian. With a rated disability of my own, I have spent time in VA hospitals, and they are not amusing places.
If you bother to look on the page I linked, there is a YouTube video link which shows the rig and talks about its benefits. NOWHERE does it mention disabilities, age or size. It says it makes it easier to: - Park -Make turns -Ride slowly -Handle uneven terrain -& several other basic skills. Indeed, there are people who could use it. If it had been marketed to them, I wouldn't have seen it as so amusing. But they didn't, and I thought it was pretty damn funny.
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Indianapolis, IN | No malice intended. Purely stated that it's great that folks with disabilities, especially our disable Heroes, have a means to remain a part of our riding community.
Thank you for your service KG!!. This country wouldn't have a hope without folks (Heroes) like yourself. God's Speed. |
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| I know an older guy who had these on his old Wing. His driveway is an uneven mess and one of the extra wheeels got hung up in a rut and pulled him into a stone wall. |
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New Bohemia, VA | I really have a hard time with the world of political correctness - I caught the humor right away and was even going to egg it on. Those who have disabilities that benefit from this contraption will enjoy it just the same and I wish them well. Personnally, I am amazed at the number of folks that try to look the biker part that that I see ride in town so unsure of themselves. I can see one of these guys using this thing, though in reallity may never will. Personally, they need to park it and take up another hobby. |
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Iron Butt
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Orlando, FL | Check this one out. I stopped by his shop a few months ago and he was fitting a Vision. He has done them for disabled vet's and all sorts of other people that need a little extra help when they stop. Small wheels in the back automatically go down when you stop and come up when you start. They can also be manually deployed.
http://landingear.com/
You Tube Vid's
http://www.youtube.com/user/chopperdesign
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| MaddMAx2u - 2011-11-24 6:43 AM Check this one out. I stopped by his shop a few months ago and he was fitting a Vision. He has done them for disabled vet's and all sorts of other people that need a little extra help when they stop. Small wheels in the back automatically go down when you stop and come up when you start. They can also be manually deployed. http://landingear.com/ You Tube Vid's http://www.youtube.com/user/chopperdesign That's a system I can see myself using in about 30 years, of course my kids will have a fit lol. |
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Wichita, Kansas | I know what you mean varyder. I saw an ad in the local paper last week for a 2006 Harley with 912 miles on it. If that guy didn't have one of those contraptions, I don't want to be any where near him!!!! |
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Central Maryland | I'm sorry gentleman... I'm going to say it;
Those outriggers are just plain wrong on a motorcycle. No disrespect intended to those whom use them. I understand the need to continue to motorcycle; and if that helps others... well so be it.
But I do not like them.
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Wichita, Kansas | I think VR and I agree with you on that.
And a big + on the PC attitude today. I've found that not all people with disabilities consider themselves victims. We had a kid who was all-state cross country runner but lost a leg to an IED. His standard line was he would kick your butt if he could keep balanced on his stick. Just let them start and set the tone. Some will surprise you. People with severe disabilities are all different - just like the rest of us. And they cope with life in different ways - just like the rest of us. |
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | Those things look like the same thing that is on my 4 year old grand baby's KTM 50SX mini. |
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Jasper, MO | KansasGuardsman - 2011-11-24 8:57 PM
I think VR and I agree with you on that.
And a big + on the PC attitude today. I've found that not all people with disabilities consider themselves victims. We had a kid who was all-state cross country runner but lost a leg to an IED. His standard line was he would kick your butt if he could keep balanced on his stick. Just let them start and set the tone. Some will surprise you. People with severe disabilities are all different - just like the rest of us. And they cope with life in different ways - just like the rest of us.
+1!
I can personally identify with this. I've been riding since 1982 with only one foot. Now that arthritis has attacked my good leg, I've been seriously considering the automatic landing gear system. I don't like the trikes I've tried out. I want to be able to ride the bike as a bike, but I'm getting to the point where handling the bike fully loaded and two-up is becoming problematic sometimes, in parking lots. I'm still fine on the road.
The Vision extended my ability to ride a heavy touring bike by several years. I had already resigned myself to giving up heavy bikes, when Victory announced the Vision. I couldn't manage the Goldwing anymore. As we all know, the Vision is more comfortable anyway, and the much lower seat height saved the day for me.
I've been in contact with these guys http://www.landingear.com/ and they have a kit for the Vision. He claims that it will not reduce cornering clearance "for the average rider". I don't know exactly what that means. I've been known to drag the floorboards.
The system originally referenced in this thread (the center mounted wheels) looks like a disaster waiting to happen. I can envision all kinds of problems and mishaps with it. I agree with Kevin. If you've ever been on one of those bikes with the the bolt-on "training wheels", you know that they will oppose your efforts to countersteer, and you'll end up going in a direction you did not intend. Bad idea.
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