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REXBURG IDAHO | Has anyone heard anything about a new bike that will be indroduced from victory in Dec or JAN? Also was talking to a dealer and they seemed to know that there may be some changes coming to victory. Any one heard anything? |
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New Mexico | Cross Roads Classic LE ??
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Boots - 2011-11-17 5:22 PM Cross Roads Classic LE ?? Harley WHAT ? |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | donetracey - 2011-11-17 6:15 PM Boots - 2011-11-17 5:22 PM Cross Roads Classic LE ?? Harley WHAT ? NO WAIT ! It's a Yamaha, right? |
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Mt. Vernon, WASH. | I've had a few bikes over the years that had the windscreen mounted on the bars and wouldn't have another! Crosswinds and huge trucks and you better be adept at sailing a small sailboat 'cause you're going on a divergent ride. One of the reasons I don't even look at Miwaukee middle busters., looks nice but sure wants to be a Toad Ring |
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Sand Rock, AL United States | I think it's beautiful but I still want a Vision.  |
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Ruskin, Fl | I got an e-mail from Victory yesterday announcing the new LE yesterday.
http://www.polarisindustries.com/en-us/victory-motorcycles/touring/...
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Natick, MA | It is a stunning bike in person and is great to ride, had one at the dealership that I threw a plate on for a bit..... Still bought the Vision! Even if I had gone with a cross bike it would have be the XCT. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Looks pretty good, they'll probably sell quite a few. If I was gonna get a Victory other than a Vision I'd choose the new Cross Country Tour though........ |
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Fountain Inn, SC United States | A new bike wouldn't be out of line for Victory. When I talked to my contacts at Victory, they eluded to being bullish on the market and releasing a new model every 6 months for the next few years. I usually take this info with caution because it hasn't always been true and sometimes wonder if it's misinformation just to throw off competitors. That was told to me about 18months ago and since then they've released a new model (admittedly some had the same frame with different treatments) along that timeframe.
I do know that Victory has big plans extending well into the decade. The Vision was just the start of breaking the motorcycle mold.
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New Bohemia, VA | the LE is old news. The positive thing about Victory trying to look mainstream is that it is still a Victory. If the public wants Vanilla ice cream, that is going to be on the menu even if you are trying to push strawberry. I've critisized Victory trying to be Harleyesque, but grant it folks, what do an manufacture got to work with beyond two wheels, a motor and a seat. I can pick any Victory out of a crowd of anything else, and there are some bikes starting to look like Victorys.
The Vision is still the mold breaker and the X-bikes are the ones that follow the bloodline with a more traditional look. The public still wants Vanilla, I'm just glad that Victory is the only one offering Strawberry, or in my case Black Cherry!  |
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| Electric Vision |
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North Orange County CA | Im hoping street legal CORE, without the wooden saddle, please. |
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| cw1115 - 2011-11-18 7:26 AM I got an e-mail from Victory yesterday announcing the new LE yesterday. http://www.polarisindustries.com/en-us/victory-motorcycles/touring/... Got the same email |
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Bay of Gigs, WA | What's that ugly shroud in front? For the oil cooler? Might as well go water buffalo. Looks like a hog-clone. So much for the bike of the future. yuk. |
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| Is the battery up there? |
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New Bohemia, VA | unveiling dec 9, something to do with crossing lines, perhaps a sports bike... what a line up, cruisers, tourers and sport...no other hint other than "some lines are meant to be crossed..." |
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Albuquerque, NM | Based on past intro's, it will probably be a Cross Roads high ball or 8 ball. I'd bet on a CR High Ball. A totally new model intro, IMOP, is unlikely.
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | SYNSTR - 2011-11-17 9:31 PM
I've had a few bikes over the years that had the windscreen mounted on the bars and wouldn't have another! Crosswinds and huge trucks and you better be adept at sailing a small sailboat 'cause you're going on a divergent ride. One of the reasons I don't even look at Miwaukee middle busters., looks nice but sure wants to be a Toad Ring
Ya'know.....I was riding a Vision this afternoon, and thought of this post. My X bike with frork mounted fairing, or my previous bikes with fork mounted shields; were never pushed around as much as a Vision. Side winds make the Vision feel like the bottom is being pushed out from below, and passing a large truck at speed produces a very scary wobble |
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Pittsburgh, PA | Not a fan of that big black plastic piece up front |
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Memphis | You're hangin on too tight. I can ride a 30kt crosswind with almost no pressure on the handlebars. The chassis will shimmy but the tires will hold a 6" track all day long. 18 wheelers are nothing. |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | kevinx - 2011-11-18 5:55 PM SYNSTR - 2011-11-17 9:31 PM I've had a few bikes over the years that had the windscreen mounted on the bars and wouldn't have another! Crosswinds and huge trucks and you better be adept at sailing a small sailboat 'cause you're going on a divergent ride. One of the reasons I don't even look at Miwaukee middle busters., looks nice but sure wants to be a Toad Ring Ya'know.....I was riding a Vision this afternoon, and thought of this post. My X bike with frork mounted fairing, or my previous bikes with fork mounted shields; were never pushed around as much as a Vision. Side winds make the Vision feel like the bottom is being pushed out from below, and passing a large truck at speed produces a very scary wobble Only if you fight it, Kevin. I can pass in crosswinds with both hands in my lap ... except the Co-Pilot slaps me when I remove both hands. Since my first fork-mount windscreen, I have hated pushing a barn door thru the air. The Vision is the BEST I have ever been on - so there. Nyah !!!! |
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | SongFan - 2011-11-18 9:00 PM
You're hangin on too tight.? I can ride a 30kt crosswind with almost no pressure on the handlebars.? The chassis will shimmy but?the tires?will hold a 6" track all day long.? 18 wheelers are nothing.
LOL it's not like I just started riding, and the side slip deal is nothing new. Just stating facts as they really are |
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New Bohemia, VA | SongFan - 2011-11-18 9:00 PM
You're hangin on too tight.? I can ride a 30kt crosswind with almost no pressure on the handlebars.? The chassis will shimmy but?the tires?will hold a 6" track all day long.? 18 wheelers are nothing.
agree - I've followed a tour bus passing two semi's using no hands except to bump up the speed on the cruise control. The Vision is a ride all to its own. |
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Akron Ohio area | SongFan, you are most assuredly correct with the problem being hanging on too tight. |
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Akron Ohio area | SongFan, you are most assuredly correct with the problem being hanging on too tight. |
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | Oh come on. I agree they are a good bike, but I'm not stuck on the koolaid. Every time I ride a Vison in a heavy wind; I feel like the rear wheel bearings have gone bad. That includes putting 3000 miles on one from Seattle to Billings, and back in a week.
BTW I can GUARANTEE that it is not me holding the bars to tight. Been riding since I was NINE, and well know what happens to a stiff rider. I also regularly travel well into triple digits on my way to and from work
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Kevin, you spend too much time FIXING and not nearly enough time RIDING. The Vision is THE BEST ! For me - in 52 years and 21 bikes ....
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | donetracey - 2011-11-18 9:14 PM
Kevin, you spend too much time FIXING and not nearly enough time RIDING. The Vision is THE BEST ! For me - in 52 years and 21 bikes ....
Your right. 24000 a year is not nearly enough miles for me to ride. Guess I'm just a poser  |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Not sayin' that. Some people are just ... not comfy - or something like that. I know people who get paid to drive - and can't drive shit. Mileage don't make a driver. Or years of experience. You just 'got it' or ya don't .
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | My God....I'm surrounded by the Stepford Bikers |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | EVIL, we iz. Just EVIL !
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New Mexico | From today's email from Victory
"WATCH THE UNVEILING OF THE NEXT VICTORY MOTORCYCLE
Some lines are meant to be crossed - don't miss the unveiling of the next Victory Motorcycle at the IMS show on December 9th at 5:00pm. You can also join us on Victory's Facebook page that evening to SEE WHAT'S NEXT from Victory. "
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I've had a few bikes over the years that had the windscreen mounted on the bars and wouldn't have another! Crosswinds and huge trucks and you better be adept at sailing a small sailboat 'cause you're going on a divergent ride. One of the reasons I don't even look at Miwaukee middle busters., looks nice but sure wants to be a Toad Ring I guess I'm lucky, I have the '05 8-Ball with a windshield and don't remember the last time a cross wind or big truck scared me, one thing I've noticed is a little wobble at around 90 that I'm guessing comes from a slightly off center shield.
Ya'know.....I was riding a Vision this afternoon, and thought of this post. My X bike with frork mounted fairing, or my previous bikes with fork mounted shields; were never pushed around as much as a Vision. Side winds make the Vision feel like the bottom is being pushed out from below, and passing a large truck at speed produces a very scary wobble
Kevin, that used to scare the hell out of me but once I got accustomed to riding the Vision I learned to loosen my grip and relax, I hardly ever notice it anymore. |
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West Chester, PA / 08 VVPT | kevinx - 2011-11-18 8:55 PM
Ya'know.....I was riding a Vision this afternoon, and thought of this post. My X bike with frork mounted fairing, or my previous bikes with fork mounted shields; were never pushed around as much as a Vision. Side winds make the Vision feel like the bottom is being pushed out from below, and passing a large truck at speed produces a very scary wobble
I've only put 4,500 miles on my new to me 08 vision and I have not experienced anything like that. And I've had this thing maxed out and passed tons of trucks. I'm thinking something is wrong with the bike you were riding. I know a good wrench if you need one.... 
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | Johnnyg - 2011-11-19 12:48 AM
kevinx - 2011-11-18 8:55 PM
Ya'know.....I was riding a Vision this afternoon, and thought of this post. My X bike with frork mounted fairing, or my previous bikes with fork mounted shields; were never pushed around as much as a Vision. Side winds make the Vision feel like the bottom is being pushed out from below, and passing a large truck at speed produces a very scary wobble
I've only put 4,500 miles on my new to me 08 vision and I have not experienced anything like that. And I've had this thing maxed out and passed tons of trucks. I'm thinking something is wrong with the bike you were riding. I know a good wrench if you need one....
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Experienced it on every Vision I have ridden in the wind, and I PROMISE you it is not from gripping the bike to hard. Getting used to something is not the same as not experiencing it. |
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Northern NJ | The first time I rode the Vision on the slab on a windy day it startled the poop out of me.
I love the Vision but that is an 850 pound sail!
Heck, it just makes it that much more exciting to ride.
Anyways, we don't waste much time riding on the slab. The slab is for cars.
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Akron Ohio area | No problem with wind.
Over 25,000 miles this year on my 2011 Vision covering all 48 contiguous States and a trip to Nova Scotia.
To check and see if your holding on too tight, pass an 18 wheeler with no hands at 70 MPH.
It will make a believer out of you. |
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, WI | I like the new tail lights - 
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san antonio, tx | Maybe an "adventure" type bike? These things are really selling well now, and it seems like it would be a good fit between Polaris' off road offerings and the Victory cruisers. |
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New Bohemia, VA | Rollin' - 2011-11-19 12:44 PM
I like the new tail lights -
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Carrollton, TX | I have over 74,000 miles on my 2008 Vision and it is solid to the core in high wind. I have ridden in 50 mph wind in Washington State in the mountains by Yakama and I was only concerned of being blown off the bike but the Vision kept its line though it was leaning some. You will feel the find a little different on every bike. While most fork mounted fairing bikes a about the same so are most frame mounted fairing bikes like the Vision, Gold Wing, BMW 1200LT and Harley Road Glide. KevinX is correct in that you get used to the difference. I have ridden all the frame mounted fairing bikes I mentioned and the Vision is by far the most solid, best handling bike. I prefer a frame mounted fairing over a fork mounted bike any day. You feel the strong winds a lot less on the Vision if you have the trunk off. |
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| kevinx - 2011-11-18 8:16 PM
donetracey - 2011-11-18 9:14 PM
Kevin, you spend too much time FIXING and not nearly enough time RIDING. The Vision is THE BEST ! For me - in 52 years and 21 bikes ....
Your right. 24000 a year is not nearly enough miles for me to ride. Guess I'm just a poser
That's all? Geez, and you don't get snow there either! ROFLMAO (just teasin' ya)
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| kevinx - 2011-11-19 5:52 AM
Johnnyg - 2011-11-19 12:48 AM
kevinx - 2011-11-18 8:55 PM
Ya'know.....I was riding a Vision this afternoon, and thought of this post. My X bike with frork mounted fairing, or my previous bikes with fork mounted shields; were never pushed around as much as a Vision. Side winds make the Vision feel like the bottom is being pushed out from below, and passing a large truck at speed produces a very scary wobble
I've only put 4,500 miles on my new to me 08 vision and I have not experienced anything like that. And I've had this thing maxed out and passed tons of trucks. I'm thinking something is wrong with the bike you were riding. I know a good wrench if you need one....
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Experienced it on every Vision I have ridden in the wind, and I PROMISE you it is not from gripping the bike to hard. Getting used to something is not the same as not experiencing it.
I've pointed this phenomena out previously regarding how the Vision get's pushed around by cross winds and turbulence more than any other bike I've been on. It definitely will move around side to side beneath you. The very fact that it insulates the rider so well from frontal winds means that something is taking the brunt of all that force.... and that would be the bike itself. While the rider doesn't get pushed around, the bike most certainly does. While most other bikes get pushed around from the top down, the Vision seems to get pushed from the bottom up. Once you get used to it, it isn't an issue, it's just different, and undoubtedly due to all the body work and how much wind "management" is being done. I will say that I've never experienced anything resembling "wobble" though.
I still wouldn't ride any other.... especially a Cross bike! LOL
Edited by Turk 2011-11-21 5:56 AM
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Barrington, NH | I agree with Kevin. Im not saying its dangerous but I def noticed it on my vision and on pleanty of other visions during test rides. I love my XC but I loved my Vision more, when they make the bags bigger on the vision I will be back on it in a heartbeat!!
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ROCHESTER,NY | All bike's grab air.Eveyone just experience's it differently.ENOUGH ALL READY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RIDE HARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LIVE FAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DIE FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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New Bohemia, VA | BBQWIZ - 2011-11-21 6:44 PM
All bike's grab air.Eveyone just experience's it differently.ENOUGH ALL READY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RIDE HARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LIVE FAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DIE FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know, right. It's like it is a new concept or something... |
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| Maybe we need to start talking about oil......all these passionate opinions. There are bikes for everybody's riding style . I seem to remember the wind bothering me when driving my truck. Just depends on your comfort zone. |
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| Gawd dammit this board it gettin more pathetic everytime i swing by. Some people dont like some bikes. Maybe thats why there are more than 1 to choose from. If someone doesnt like the way the Vision tracks in the wind why do you give a shit. If you like your bike you know how you like to ride it, no reason to tell someone who thinks differently they must not know how to ride, WTF. I got my bike, I love my bike, I ride my bike....if that doesnt work for someone else...I just hope they love their bike as much as I do mine. Ride on ! |
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New Bohemia, VA | ridingcowboy - 2011-11-17 8:17 PM
Has anyone heard anything about a new bike that will be indroduced from victory in Dec or JAN? Also was talking to a dealer and they seemed to know that there may be some changes coming to victory. Any one heard anything?
how did this thread git so far away from the OP? Dec 9, the anwer will be blowing in the wind... |
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, WI | I like the wind! First guess ........bagless Cross Roads. Second guess .........this - 
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New Bohemia, VA | ....tick, tock, tick, tock, tick, tock... |
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