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Cruiser
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| Went to bike wk in Daytona beach while there the ABSlight came on while riding about 60mph.Didn't go off until i stop turn key off, WHEN I fire up to ride again light worked as should for awhile then happen again many times.
All ways had brakes.ON THE way back home to ky. light never came on again. Took bike back to dealer they said they would check it out good. Have 5320 mile on it rode it about 800 mile to Daytona $59n in fuel,$64 on the way back the thing ride great. Set the trip clock going down got about 11hrs there,12hrs 30min back Hope they get that light thing worked out. |
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Tourer
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2 mi from Jim Beam n KY | Hopefully it will be on for them to t-shoot.
When you get a chance, go into the control panel and update your info. Where in Ky are you? |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 10
| Greetings,
Been having trouble with mine lately too. Finally the light just stayed on constantly and true to form I am able to lock up the back wheel(don't ask how I know that  Anyway my local dealer Rollin Fast went the extra mile for me trying to figure out what was wrong before a big trip I was planning. Switching out parts, calling Victory, etc.... and in the end they determined it was the ABS module itself. So now I am waiting for a new ABS module from Victory. Dealer says not till 11/4 or so. Oh well at least I can still ride. Please keep us posted on what your issue ends up being and the resolution. I will post an update once the new ABS module is in and hopefully others can benefit as well
Cheers! |
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Cruiser
Posts: 232
| I noticed that while i was down there the front brake level kinda felt funny like it was sticking. |
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Tourer
Posts: 494
Akron Ohio area | I have the same problem.
Went to the dealership today for an oil change and to check out the ABS.
They hooked my bike up to a computer and this is what they found.
Fault C1031-ABS front wheel speed sensor signal failure
Fault C1032-ABS actuator (front) wheel lock or vehicle speed sensor (VSS) failure.
Fault C1038-ABS source voltage low
They called it into Victory's site and supposedly I'm covered under warranty for future repair/replacement costs
The mechanic also cleaned everything in and around the ABS pick-up area.
I'll keep everyone informed of any future problems.
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Iron Butt
Posts: 612
| I'm now having the same issue with my ABS light coming on too. Sometimes it will stay on all day, the next morning, it's fine. Seems to act up more in colder temps.... |
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Tourer
Posts: 494
Akron Ohio area | Turk, make sure your dealership reports this to Victory. |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 612
| bigfoot - 2011-11-01 12:29 PM
Turk, make sure your dealership reports this to Victory.
I'm told that there should be a 50/1000 gap at the sensor. If that clearance changes, either from settling or getting dislodged, it will make it act flaky. I haven't checked mine yet. I hear it's more likely to occur at the front sensor... |
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Visionary
Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA | ...hopefully my ABS light will never come on...put some electrical tape over it and keep riding... |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 612
| Well, my ABS had been flaky, sometimes on, sometimes off. It started working again for a couple days, but as of Saturday, the light is on full time now. Has anyone had resolution to this? I plan to take my bike in to the dealer this afternoon and hook it up to the Digital Wrench to pull any fault codes...
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Visionary
Posts: 1340
Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | Improper air gap of front speed sensor |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 612
| kevinx - 2011-11-14 10:08 AM
Improper air gap of front speed sensor
Thanks for the call too! I will find out by 12:30cst today..... when I get home for lunch. |
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Visionary
Posts: 4278
| <strong>In your manual there is a phone number for the national hwy safety. There is so many with ABS lights coming on you should call and force Vic to do a recall. Think you could save some ones life by doing this.</strong>
Edited by john frey 2011-11-14 11:30 AM
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Iron Butt
Posts: 1117
Northeast Ohio | varyder - 2011-11-01 3:55 PM
...hopefully my ABS light will never come on...put some electrical tape over it and keep riding...
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Iron Butt
Posts: 612
| I changed the air gap, no difference. There were multiple error codes in the digital wrench software. All of them included a reference to the actual module itself. my dealer is going to call victory tomorrow to get their take on it. It's still under warranty, so I'm not worried about that. Just curious if anyone else has actually resolved this issue yet????
Edited by Turk 2011-11-14 6:30 PM
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Iron Butt
Posts: 612
| So, no one has found a resolution to the ABS {intermittent} malfunction problem?
I'm starting to see a correlation between the ABS light and some weird anomalies with my GPS and Victory radio. Sometimes, the GPS will start overriding the audio, cutting it out every few seconds at the same time the ABS light comes on. It almost makes me think I have some minor voltage spikes or dips that could be affecting more than just an overly sensitive ABS module. Maybe replacing the rectifier could help?
Ideas?
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Visionary
Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA | what does the dealer say? |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 612
| varyder - 2011-11-29 7:35 PM
what does the dealer say?
Dealer needs the bike to go through whatever the book says the maintenance/troubleshooting procedures are. So basically, I need to be willing to give up the bike for an indefinite period of time. Ideally, I'd like to swap out the rectifier/regulator and see what that yields. I'm convinced that mine is on the high side of the acceptable range, approaching 15volts at anything above idle, and the ABS module may be overly sensitive to high voltage. What is 'normal' for these bikes?
Edited by Turk 2011-11-30 8:09 AM
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Visionary
Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA | I'm not an expert in ABS, but I don't see the voltage rending a fault, it sounds normal. It would seem to be more of a module. Swapping out components dont hurt, but I would also retrace all of the connectors, put dielectric grease on them.
Just a word, if when you take it to the dealer, suggest that they clear out the fault codes first and rerun the bike for the fault to show. In my experience with the fuel pump, my dealer read the existing codes and replaced things according to fault showing and the bike still had the problem. It wasn't until they cleared the faults, with all of my original stuff did they find those where ghost faults and none actually existed, so they told me. Then they suspected the fuel pump which is checked by a manual pressure test, but not until they charged me 3 hours of troubleshooting time.
Edited by varyder 2011-11-30 8:27 AM
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Iron Butt
Posts: 612
| We've already cleared faults once, a few weeks ago... while some of them pointed to sensors, almost every one included a reference to a faulty ABS module. My reservation though is that replacing the ABS module appears to be a lot of work. It appears that the entire left rear side of the bike would have to be disassembled just to get to it, then there are multiple hydraulic lines that need to be removed and replaced, electrical connections, limited space.... potential for fluid all over the place... then bleed the entire system including the ABS side and brake sides..... just so much work.... with no guarantee that's the issue. |
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Tourer
Posts: 494
Akron Ohio area | It's been a few months now since my ABS light came on and stayed on.
The one "code" that showed up was "Fault C1038-ABS source voltage low" which would be the opposite of Turk's high voltage problem.
The other 2 codes that showed up were;
Fault C1031-ABS front wheel speed sensor signal failure
Fault C1032-ABS actuator (front) wheel lock or vehicle speed sensor (VSS) failure.
When it was faulting all the time, I could sometimes clear it by shutting down the bike, waiting a minute, then restarting. (Kind of like a reboot) |
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Visionary
Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA | hmmm, despite the effort, the ABS module has to be totally eliminated, by replacing it. I understand your reservations in giving up your bike for such a lengthy time, but if it is covered under warranty, then I would just do it. I would also try to push the dealer a little to make it a priority. That's just me.
Personally, ABS proves to be another uneeded aggrevation, but eventually I'll get stuck with it when I get a new Vision, unless they keep it off the 8-Ball in the years ahead. |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 612
| bigfoot - 2011-11-30 9:45 AM
It's been a few months now since my ABS light came on and stayed on.
The one "code" that showed up was "Fault C1038-ABS source voltage low" which would be the opposite of Turk's high voltage problem.
The other 2 codes that showed up were;
Fault C1031-ABS front wheel speed sensor signal failure
Fault C1032-ABS actuator (front) wheel lock or vehicle speed sensor (VSS) failure.
When it was faulting all the time, I could sometimes clear it by shutting down the bike, waiting a minute, then restarting. (Kind of like a reboot)
What have you done to clear the issue?
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Cruiser
Posts: 232
| MY LITE HAS NEVER CAME ON AGAIN WHEN IT WASN'T SUPPOST TO ..THANK GOODNESS |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 10
| My bike is in the shop right now. Spoke to the dealer today and he is replacing the ABS module. He said its going to be a day or two more before its done. My dealer has tried all of the above fixes as well. In the end after multiple calls to Victory etc.... they are replacing the ABS module. So as soon as he is done I will post the results.
Just to express my ignorance here, replacing the ABS module calls most of the left side of the bike bleeding the brakes etc....? Holy crow! And here I thought it was a simple plug and play electronic device. Guess this is why I don't work on Vics for a living. I'd be broke |
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Cruiser
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Edmonton Alberta, Canada | Wow, I think it may be a muffler bearing causing the light to come on. Start with the simple things, Sensor must be very close to the tone ring, check conections for corrosion/moisture, finally check the condition of the wire, outer casing sould be rubbed through. ABS systems alway revert back to std braking. ABS light has nothing to do with the fluid system, I guarantee that it is electrical or ECM. JMO!!! |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 612
| norcan - 2011-11-30 9:57 PM
Wow, I think it may be a muffler bearing causing the light to come on. Start with the simple things, Sensor must be very close to the tone ring, check conections for corrosion/moisture, finally check the condition of the wire, outer casing sould be rubbed through. ABS systems alway revert back to std braking. ABS light has nothing to do with the fluid system, I guarantee that it is electrical or ECM. JMO!!!
I agree, it has to be electrical -or- programming (ECU). Last time I went to the dealer, the digital wrench software was due for an update. That usually means that they slipstream minor "fixes" into the various ECU maps!!! Sooo after updating the digital wrench software, I then used it to upload the latest stock flash onto my ECU. Ever since, my ABS has been working (light goes out at 6mph), with one or two minor exceptions. This is opposite from previously, where it would absolutely never work (light always on) with one or two exceptions.
Anyone having issues with your ABS, I highly suggest you go to your dealer, have them update their Digital Wrench software to the latest version (in my case, it was 3.3.1), and reflash your ECU.
Edited by Turk 2011-12-16 2:41 PM
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 10
| Update:
My dealer called and said my bike is fixed. No more ABS and the ABS work as expected. My poor dealer went thru hell replacing everything was ready to start replacing other electrical parts that may not seem directly related. I can't post what was wrong just yet because in all actuallity the dealer spoke to my wife and she relayed to me that the bike was fixed. My wife had to relay the message b/c I am out of the country on business. Anyway as soon as I can get the scoop from my dealer I will let everyone know. I have been getting emails from riders with the same problem wanting to know what the solution is. Looks like my dealer is blazing a path on this one |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 10
| Sorry should say 'No more ABS light' |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 612
| Yes! Please post up what they found as soon as you get the chance!
Thanks!
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Cruiser
Posts: 232
| When i got the bike back from dealer he said they could not find anything wrong. I think it had to be the air gap thing because when i left here i went thru a rain,wind,dirt storm then with the sand and wind down there. |
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Tourer
Posts: 494
Akron Ohio area | A few months ago I took Scream to the dealership to have her hooked up to the computer.
I posted the results on another thread.
Since then, no problems.
So I haven't a clue how or what fixed it. |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 612
| Since some of my error codes indicated it could be a problem with the rear sensor, my dealer ordered one in. We did the swap this morning, which isn't quite as easy as it seems on the surface. Getting to the connector and cutting the tie straps was a bit of a pain, but after the new sensor went on, problem solved. ABS light goes out at 6mph as it should. |
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